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Should I try to become PM?

91 replies

SisforSarah · 17/07/2021 21:49

Just that really. NC.
I have no experience in politics. I’m mid 40s, married with DC, NHS Dr. I spend most of my life trying to avoid conflict…..but I’m pretty thick skinned. Politically I don’t fall neatly with either main party ;labour is too socialist and the Tories…..well where to start really. I just listen to the daily spin and lies and chumocracy and think ‘there has to be someone else who can lead better than this’….but apparently there isn’t. I think my 10 year old could do a better job….and failing that, what about me? I think I’d have to start a whole new party. I don’t know what I’d call it. Is it even worth trying? And where would I start? And why won’t someone else do this as I’m sure there are lots of people significantly more qualified than me who would be much better. Where are you hiding??

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SisforSarah · 17/07/2021 22:31

@Bryonyshcmyony you are on. I’ll happily be your wingwoman if you want the top job. I have no desire to live at number 10, especially now all the John Lewis furniture has been removed.

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Bryonyshcmyony · 17/07/2021 22:32

[quote SisforSarah]@Bryonyshcmyony you are on. I’ll happily be your wingwoman if you want the top job. I have no desire to live at number 10, especially now all the John Lewis furniture has been removed.[/quote]
Omg let's do it

SisforSarah · 17/07/2021 22:34

@Garfunkle no idea for a party name
Normal people?
Average people?
Everyone’s invited?
Centre party?
Hit me with some suggestions?

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beigebrownblue · 17/07/2021 22:43

I think that the

women's liberation

movement could do with a revamp.

So the

'women's liberation party'.

back in the eighties we used to consciousness raising groups.

I think that would be very appropriate considering women's rights and girl's rights are going down the tubes in favour of misogyny.

beigebrownblue · 17/07/2021 22:43

Or even the

'Women's Liberation Front'

I've always liked a bit of a Front.

Turn back the Tide.

Melassa · 17/07/2021 22:45

[quote SisforSarah]@Garfunkle no idea for a party name
Normal people?
Average people?
Everyone’s invited?
Centre party?
Hit me with some suggestions?[/quote]
Given the propensity of a large percentage of current electorate to vote as if elections were X Factor or Strictly, you need to find something catchy.

One Direction could perhaps be repurposed? Or something mysterious with an exclamation mark like Burn! No need to say what, people can select according to their proclivities or prejudices.

Melassa · 17/07/2021 22:47

I would avoid woman anything, given the amount if misogynists around (make AND female)

SisforSarah · 17/07/2021 22:53

@Melassa I have to agree with you .I’m sure more men vote than women (happy to be corrected) and men are much more likely to vote men (and be terrified of anything with women in the title), so leave the ‘women’ out of the party name and just make up with extra women in the party

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elephantoverthehill · 17/07/2021 22:55

What about 'The we all fart party'. It breaks down barriers and is true.

TheVolturi · 17/07/2021 22:56

Go for it op!

BlaBlaSmthSmth · 17/07/2021 23:01

Please make this happen OP I really like the cut of your jib (jip?) anyway I'd definitely back you, and once you get your party name/members/manifesto sorted I would volunteer my time spreading the word and helping out.
We definitely need a new party to vote for, a central sensible one, not far left/right or single issue based.

Come on OP! @SisforSarah for PM 😁

SisforSarah · 17/07/2021 23:06

@elephantoverthehill I love it. I’m not sure how it would go down on the international stage though….although boatymcboatface springs to mind.
This isn’t a job I want to do. I don’t want to be famous, I don’t want bodyguards, I don’t want anybody knowing anything about me, I want to cycle along the back lanes unrecognised for Sunday lunch at my mums local like we often do. I don’t want my children recognised. I don’t want to move house….but there has to be an alternative to the current options.

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Wallywobbles · 17/07/2021 23:09

In France here so apologies for my references. Macrons party is called La République en Marche which is quite a good play on words - Marche could be work or walk. And he has the merit of being attractive. I'd rather have a PM that didn't make me cringe before s/he even opened their gob.

I'd vote for a woman but not an embarrassment like Marine Le Pen or Segolène Royal. If you can channel a bit of Simone Veil (abortion, contraception, women's rights etc) you'd have all of MN behind you.

Good luck.

notimagain · 17/07/2021 23:10

@SisforSarah

wasn’t it Macron who became president within 18 months of starting his political career

No….his party (En Marche) was maybe only 18 months old when Mr Macron became president he had been operating in various political roles (elected or appointed) for maybe a decade, plus or minus, before he was elected president..

Doona · 17/07/2021 23:11

Yes yes yes! You can do it OP!

SisforSarah · 17/07/2021 23:16

@Wallywobbles thank you! I think I’m averagely attractive- I don’t stand out in a crowd. I have one distinctive feature that is apparently attractive, but I don’t like. I hate public speaking……clearly I’d need to sort that out!! I’m very feminist and increasingly liberal despite a strict christian upbringing! I won’t be everyone’s cup of tea…..but as I said at the outset, almost anyone would surely be better than Boris?

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SisforSarah · 17/07/2021 23:18

I’m off to bed now MN so will respond to any further comments in the morning x

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AtrociousCircumstance · 18/07/2021 00:20

If you’re GC I’m already organising a fundraiser for you.

FreddieLounds · 18/07/2021 00:37

The thing is that France’s electoral system does not function like our archaic first-past-the-post system. There is - regrettably - no way OP could pull a Macron over here in anything like a similar amount of time.

MrsMcGarry · 18/07/2021 00:43

There have been over 30 new centrist parties registered in last few years. None have won even a council seat.

As someone who does this stuff say in day out, it’s not actually that easy to convince people to vote for you rather than stick to their habit of voting Tory or Labour.

Papergirl1968 · 18/07/2021 00:44

Retired consultant Dr Richard Taylor (genuinely lovely man) won Wyre Forest twice as an independent, fighting for services at Kidderminster Hospital.
The first time he outseated the sitting Labour MP, a junior minister, with a landslide victory. The seat has since returned to the Conservatives though, who held it before Labour.
The way British politics works, being elected as an independent MP is possible, but I think it’s a lonely position, with limited opportunity to achieve much, unless it’s a hung parliament.

EnemyOfEducationNo1 · 18/07/2021 00:49

Yes. I've been saying this for the last couple of years.
I'd stand with you - I'm a mere science teacher with a background in finance.
I favour the "rational party". As in sane.

LadyLolaRuben · 18/07/2021 01:06

I could have written your post. I've been thinking exactly the same thing for years. We need fresh blood in the political system. There was a party a few years ago that was set up, can't remember its name but it didn't last long at all not even a year and it consisted of a number of well known MPs

SuperSecretSquirrels · 18/07/2021 01:13

I think, rather than trying to win at their (rather broken) game, you need a new game with new rules.

Coup d’etat?

StripyGiraffes · 18/07/2021 01:21

Due to the UK political system not having proportional representation, it's incredibly hard to get anywhere setting up a new party. Almost impossible. Look at the percentage of the population who voted for each party at the last few elections compared to the percentage of seats they got for that vote and you'll see the problem.

So people join the "main" parties. And necessarily become corrupted/ disillusioned before they can get anywhere near the top, by the various interests that fund them all. Anybody in it for the "greater good" is weeded out by the systems and cliques in the political parties.

On top of that MPs and their families are subjected to media attention, online abuse and death threats, a very stressful job and inflexible working hours for £70k ish per year, far less than a full time GP earns. Or anybody even fairly senior in their professional career in medicine, finance, economics, accountancy, law, education, etc. So you can see why it isn't attracting talented people. Why would someone put their family at risk and quit a stable career for the prospect of maybe getting a temporary job for 5 years with a lower salary?

In most comparable countries that equivalent of our MPs earn perhaps £200-300k per year. Even that is low because it's public service - a comparably responsible role in industry would pay far more. If you just take a look at the MEPs sent to the European parliament by other EU countries: ex-Prime ministers, ex-diplomats, highly skilled people. Compared to the trash we sent - Farage etc. Confused So embarrassing. And Westminster is no better. The quality of people in politics now - in terms of intelligence or decency - in general is shocking if you look back and compare to previous decades.

The best thing would be to put in place a PR system, ban private funding of political parties, and triple the salaries, paid from tax money. It would be a pittance in terms of the public finances but clean up the system, make corruption much more difficult, make the every vote matter, be more likely to lead to balanced evidenced-based governance, genuine discussion of things that matter instead of mindless slogans, and potentially then attract people with actual skills and a conscience rather than clueless public school boys and billionnaires (Sunak) who think it is all a bit of a joke and a stepping stone to getting their name in history books and being invited to speak at dinner conferences for £££££ of getting lucrative directorships from their "mates" when they leave office. But that's why it doesn't change because to change it those same people would be required to vote to change it. I mean, Rees-Mogg's father wrote a book about how to make money from disaster capitalism called "Blood in the streets". Hmm

It's all fixable if the public put pressure on to have it fixed but most have so little understanding of how it functions that they won't, so it stays the same. I wouldn't get involved in it how it is right now, if I were you. I understand the frustration and wish to change things, but the above is why nobody with any decency or sense of will go near it with a bargepole. So it continues....

Sad I agree.