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Do you know anyone personally who belongs to a Far Right group?

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FortunesFave · 08/07/2021 09:21

I was just thinking about far right extremists because of something I saw on Youtube and then thought about how I've never and would probably never meet one of these people because of my line of work (the arts) then I began thinking about people who might be like that but hide it...

Does anyone know any? Are they open about their ideals? I promise I am not a journo. Just interested.

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crackofdoom · 09/07/2021 16:02

Thank you unlimited, that was genuinely enlightening. I can understand your concerns, but if you haven’t been keeping up, it does get increasingly difficult to distinguish between apologists for the Far Right, and those concerned about where a movement is heading.

Wbeezer · 09/07/2021 17:05

What do you want us to do @crackofdoom? Should we start every discussion with a list of all the groups we disapprove off in order to prove that we aren't right wing apologists or maybe list all the worthy groups we are members of?
Makes discussions a bit clunky I think.
Perhaps i have been talking to my young family members too much?. I find i have a tendency to play devil's advocate with them and insert educational asides into discussions (it doesn't half wind them up sometimes) as i cant ignore it if hear them parroting ill thought out sound bites without thinking it through. Yes, it can be irritating but they get good marks for discursive essays at school and it doesn't make me an apologist.

Helleofabore · 09/07/2021 22:08

it does get increasingly difficult to distinguish between apologists for the Far Right,

Would you care to elaborate just what you mean here please ?

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Wbeezer · 09/07/2021 23:30

Yes I'd like to read your explanation too, I feel a little accused...

MissKeithsNeice · 09/07/2021 23:39

@C130

Some people are not even aware that they have absorbed and believe racist tropes.
I'd go further, and just most people find it incredibly difficult to recognise the internalised biases they hold.
Tinpotspectator · 09/07/2021 23:57

No chance!

Tinpotspectator · 09/07/2021 23:58

I stay as far away as I can from those people.

DismantledKing · 10/07/2021 10:05

it does get increasingly difficult to distinguish between apologists for the Far Right

Another one who wants to know what this means.
I think that if you believe that Antifa are a bunch of authoritarian performative nobheads (as I do), you’re accused of not opposing the far-right effectively. Historically, Searchlight and Hope not Hate have not adopted the tactics of Antifa, especially the US version.
Antifa have properly shown their true colours by bullying feminists in the US. When it comes down to it, how different are they from the actual fascists they claim to oppose? Just because they call themselves ‘Antifa’ doesn’t mean they’re properly anti-fascist, just as the Nazis calling themselves ‘national socialists’ doesn’t mean that they were actually socialist.

Kendodd · 10/07/2021 10:33

What's interesting is that they're convinced they're not racist.

This is my experience of every racist I have ever met.
Beyond that, they take huge offence if you point out their racism. They don't think they're racist, they just think they're right.
Example I've heard - Deporting immigrants, including children (who are now adults) born here is not racist because they have their own country to go back to and they belong there, not here.
From the mouth of someone who genuinely believes they 'don't have a racist bone in their body'.
Do you think Nigel Farage thought he was racist?
I would bet even Hitler didn't think he was racist, he just thought he was right.

This is one reason why I would never describe myself as not racist because quite frankly, I probably am in ways I don't see or realise. Unconscious bias isn't my fault, what is my fault though would be to deny it exists and not do my best to look for it, listen to people who experience it, and try to improve myself.

newnortherner111 · 10/07/2021 10:54

Never known one, a friend has a brother who was in one and they do not speak to each other any more.

FlaminEckVera · 10/07/2021 11:31

Nope. Not one.

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