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Anyone else just had relentlessnessly crap customer service recently?

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OrangeSharked · 19/06/2021 17:43

Bit of a rant really but prior to covid I would say I rarely had a reason to contact customer services. But recently I've just had problem after problem after problem with things, normally parcels. When I try to talk to customer services all you get are platitudes, its often impossible to actually get someone to look into or sort out an issue. I'm just sick of being patronised or brushed off by customer services.

Anyone else finding that customer service from companies just gets worse and worse? I understand these are big companies that don't really give a shit about their customers, but still. I miss the days when you could call a companies customer services and get anything other than a 'sorry about this, unfortunately there's nothing we can do!' Grin

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casade13 · 19/06/2021 22:56

I would agree that some of the customer service hasn’t been great but I must say I have seen more customers being rude to staff members/ less considerate to other shoppers. I say this as someone who is heavily pregnant walking round a big supermarket recently! Real eye opener!

Bluebird2021 · 19/06/2021 23:01

Customer on customer arguments have increased MASSIVELY!! It’s so awkward. And I’m not stepping in anymore

A poor elderly man was being berated for going the wrong way round the arrow system. He was so confused, I had to rescue him. But the other customer was absolutely vile to him, people were stood open mouthed as she shouted at him, then she took it all out on me. Another customer tried to defend me and it all got nasty.

mybrainhertz · 19/06/2021 23:07

So, because some customers are rude and horrible, we all have to just accept bad customer service? There's no way of differentiating polite customers from rude ones?

I receive decent service online with polite messages, updates and even free gifts, so I'll stick with shopping online then.

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Bluebird2021 · 19/06/2021 23:15

Yes more and more are becoming rude

Nobody wants to be hindered by covid restrictions

OrangeSharked · 20/06/2021 00:03

@Beehappy21 its not that they are rude. Its that there is genuinely no customer service, they can't seemingly sort out any issue. Just offer a basic platitude. 'I am sorry this has happened but we can't do anything'. The point of customer service is surely to help sort out problems?

For example my billing address and the delivery address are different. A company tried to deliver to my billing address with the delivery addresses postcode, inevitably this parcel was not deliverable. This was their mistake as I checked my original email which showed being delivered to the correct address. I tried to contact the delivery company, no avail. I tried to contact the company who I ordered from. Nothing they can do just wait for it to return to depot. Could I cancel and reorder? No, because they needed to receive the goods for refund. No acknowledgement of the fact I would need to receive the goods in order to return them. No acknowledgement of the fact it was their mistake.

If someone has been rude that doesn't give you an excuse to not do your job to another customer. Tbh I'm not blaming the individual employees, I'm assuming its the company that has prevented the customer service employee sorting this out.

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SecondCityShark · 20/06/2021 00:45

Yup. Booked in a couple of days at a luxury spa (Lion's Quay in Oswestry) via a Secret Escapes type website. I've tried to email the spa on the address printed in their brochure to book our treatments (you have to book individual treatments in advance) but it bounced.

Tried their contact form on the website. No reply.

Grenlei · 20/06/2021 01:02

I think generally standards dipped during Covid, and that was to be expected, but since then things haven't improved as they should have
done. Many things are now back to normal, there are as many cars on the roads as there were in early 2020, yet in some sectors there's still a perception that offering a reduced service is acceptable.

I've had a couple of recent experiences with Asda, which have been varied. I ordered some crockery to be delivered - when it turned up it was all broken. Literally not one plate intact in the box! I emailed but never even got a reply. Returned and refunded.
Ordered something else for collection in store. The collection point in our Asda used to be at a till at the back of the clothes section. This is where the website still directs you to...however when you get there, a handwritten note says to go to Customer Services at the front of the store. Get there, queue up for a good 10 mins...only to be told it's a collection machine round the corner about 50ft away. Why does the note not direct you to the machine?!!
On the other hand...I had some bedlinen which fell apart after the first wash. Complained, and received a replacement 2 days later. Unfortunately with these big companies it really is the luck of the draw as to who's responding to you.

BirdsandBeesmakinghay · 20/06/2021 02:03

Yes. I think it’s a combination of things. They are resentful about having to be back at work, they are fed up with all the protocols they have to follow for Covid, or they are exhausted and demoralised by their personal circumstances.
Many have done all their work on zoom for the past year and have lost any people skills they had.
Also many staff are new and untrained.

user1745 · 20/06/2021 04:31

Yes, I have noticed customer service has been worse lately. I feel quite embarrassed at the number of Paypal cases I've had to open recently, when I'm really not a complaining person, but I've had companies just ignore all contact or promise a response in so many days and nothing happens.

MinnieMountain · 20/06/2021 06:51

There was a thread on here last autumn (I think) about how bad John Lewis’s customer service has got. Most of the community were to do with their online business.

MinnieMountain · 20/06/2021 06:51

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PurpleCloak · 20/06/2021 07:04

I was in Wickes the other week and two of the staff were walking around making really loud dog noises to each other Hmm when I stopped them to ask where something was, they said they didn’t know and carried on walking..
On the other side of it, it is also annoying when you get great customer service and then they point you to a survey to fill in about it on the receipt. Clearly not very genuine.

ChiefInspectorParker · 20/06/2021 07:10

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Sittinginthesand · 20/06/2021 07:18

Yes. Not rude but useless. Tried to buy a car recently (mine had been written off so I needed it ASAP). Found one online from major established company, phoned, paid deposit, all sorted - and heard nothing more. A week of chasing and still nothing. So asked for deposit back. If they were that bad at selling I didn’t think they’d be great if there was a problem later!

Sittinginthesand · 20/06/2021 07:21

Chief - well, if you don’t want their money that’s fine but lots of people DON’T want book online or use PayPal. Lots of elderly people can’t if they aren’t tech savvy.

Keepyourdistance000 · 20/06/2021 07:26

My friend works as a veterinary nurse and over the last year or so she and her veterinary colleagues have had more aggressive, abusive clients than ever before. A lot of veterinary staff are close to breakdowns or quitting the profession as a result. It could be because clients are frustrated at still not being allowed in in many surgeries, but being called a 'bitch' and a 'c--t' because of this is unacceptable.

Personally I have found a lot of supermarket staff exceptionally rude and unwilling to help.

FlipperSkipper · 20/06/2021 07:28

@MinnieMountain

There was a thread on here last autumn (I think) about how bad John Lewis’s customer service has got. Most of the community were to do with their online business.
We’ve had terrible customer service from John Lewis recently, tried to blame my mother for her 8 month old tv not working, finally sent an engineer to fix it and 4 days later it’s broken again. Customer service chat are so unhelpful.
Tashkentmoon · 20/06/2021 07:36

I’ve had the worst ! Sse!!!!! Absolute nightmare.just nearly zero customer service. Bills raised/ direct debits raised without notice then inexplicably cancelled. Then sent nasty demands but no way at all to contact them. Twitter/ email/ phone/ letter all fruitless. Had some (apologetic) resolution now after 7 months of drama. But I’ve noticed it across the board. Don’t get me started on Hermes who have the worst customer service on the planet. Or Vodafone. Or Sky. It’s really horrendous.

Iquitit · 20/06/2021 08:01

The problem as I see it is a mixture of companies offering the moon on s stick, but not actually wanting to deliver it. So their advertising leads the customer into believing that whatever they want, they get. But the problem is, due to their own policies or processes half the time, they're actively preventing their staff from delivering on those promises, and as in any job, failure to follow company policies, or silly and ineffectual processes usually lead to a staff member not being able to do anything or bollocking or or disciplinary action which worries the employee into sticking to the rules no matter what, which pisses the customer off, who then complains and that goes one of two ways -

The customer complains to the member of staff, who is pretty much powerless to change the policy or process that led to the issue, and under threat of action if they do, and are quite often accused of laziness and incompetence if they feedback the complaints to higher up, so it goes on deaf ears and nothing changes. Often the customer has got it off their chest and doesn't pursue it too. So it's perceived as staff just moaning.
Or
The customer complains higher up and receives a platitude about more training for staff, apologies for how the staff got it wrong and how they'll deal with it, giving the impression the staff member has made a mistake or been in the wrong, instead of sticking to their own policies, because half the time the policies are absolute bloody nonsense, the processes not fit for purpose and based in money making/saving and they don't want to admit that.

The companies don't care about their customers, only how much of their money they can part them with, and they care less about their staff - they're simply the tool to part customers with their money, and keep as tighter ship as possible so less is spent and therefore profit higher. It's all about the needs of the business.
I think this leads to a poor attitude from both customers and employees, the employees are demoralised, down trodden and used as a whipping boy by the customers and a scapegoat by the companies and yes, I've got to the point where I no longer care. I felt that I was always going to be in the wrong, go against the policy and make the customer happy and I get into trouble, the customer isn't going to be interested or even aware that I've gone against whatever policy, used my common sense and delivered what they want and that's been detrimental to me. And the company doesn't care that following their policy has gotten me a humiliating 15 minutes dress down from an annoyed customer for the 8th time that day.

On balance, I'd rather take the second to be honest because it doesn't threaten my job.

ChiefInspectorParker · 20/06/2021 08:02

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MistySkiesAfterRain · 20/06/2021 08:11

The worst customer service comes from the companies who do not treat their staff with respect or have decent customer policies and training. JD are notorious for that. I also think companies have tightened their belts of late in terms of what they will/won't offer.

I lost out on holiday as I booked a non refundable rate pre covid. Then they issued a 12 month voucher which expired before travel restrictions were lifted. CC company did not want to know.

Cannot contact DVLA for love nor money to renew an ancient license.

Companies have cut hours and do not get me started on Chat Bots.

Longdistance · 20/06/2021 08:21

I cancelled Virgin media because the customer service assistant thought it was fine to be without internet for two week and that I should not be getting any money back for a service I haven’t received. She ended up arguing with me, told her to get some customer service training. When I tried cancelling they tried to flog me some other shit.
BT were just as bad. The guy didn’t listen to me at all and ordered the wrong package. We were booked for someone to come and install everything. It took three goes to cancel the bloody thing 🙄
Argos are shocking. Trying to get through to their customer service was a pain in the arse. It took weeks to sort my problem out. They couldn’t care less.

Longdistance · 20/06/2021 08:36

Actually, this is part of why the high street is dying. This is even before the pandemic. I’ve got so fed up of paying stupid prices for parking my car and then going to shops to buy myself stuff to be told they don’t have that size or particular colour in stock. Have a look online. Which is where I pretty much shop for things now.
It’s also the stock they keep. My local Matalan will think nothing of stocking a nighty in the same size on the rail. 15 nighties all a size 12 anyone? No other sizes 🤦🏼‍♀️

JeanClaudeVanDammit · 20/06/2021 08:40

I’ve had some abysmal customer service in hospitality recently. I do appreciate that they’ve had a shit year and are dealing with a lot of arsey people but when I’m there not being arsey I don’t think I deserve crap service. By crap service I mean actively rude and being snapped at, not just delays or something.

happinessischocolate · 20/06/2021 08:55

@JeanClaudeVanDammit

I’ve had some abysmal customer service in hospitality recently. I do appreciate that they’ve had a shit year and are dealing with a lot of arsey people but when I’m there not being arsey I don’t think I deserve crap service. By crap service I mean actively rude and being snapped at, not just delays or something.
In problem in hospitality atm is they just don't have enough staff, anywhere. Both of my dc are working in holidays parks which pay above minimum wage and lots of perks and they still can't get enough staff.

My dd was the only member of staff serving in the main entertainment area one night for over an hour and was being shouted at by so many customers that she ended up walking out.