Toilet equality? -A urinal for women -invented by British women

[lightlypoached]

I hate queuing for a wee at outdoor events so was chuffed tc see this innovation. I'm intrigued as to how one actually uses it but on the face of it this looks like a good idea.

What do we think?

www.peequal.com

It raises more questions than it answers - my bladder has stage fright just at the thought

No thank you

The photos show an extra high barrier/fencing around the toilets - so there should only be women in the enclosure.
It's a good idea - but I think clothing is the problem. One of their photos shows a woman in dungarees! And her scarf is trailing on the ground.
A better idea may be to have hand rails either side of toilet to hold onto so you can hover - increases the number of touch points though.

Presumably they'd still need to have some conventional toilets alongside in case anyone needed to shit or puke.

How do I know if a cubicle is free?
Where do I put my bag?
What about changing tampons etc?
What is to stop men looking over the top?
Where do I wash my hands?

But most of all, how is this any quicker?

The long and short of it is that men have penises and women have vaginas. Penises allow you to pee standing up without having to pull down trousers etc. There is fuck all we can do about that.

In theory, I'd like to support a design by women to alleviate a problem women face ( long toilet queues at festivals).

But it's not something I'd want to use. Everyone seeing me from shoulders up as I used it would put me right off. Although maybe if I was younger and drunk and really needed a wee. I suppose it could have it's place. But really I think we just need at least 50% more portaloos available for women than men.

They're tiny! how can it be touch free? and waaaay too short

Isn't this a unisex loo? It doesn't say its for women only. It says giving
women equal access.

I've successfully peed all over my hand trying to get a shewee into a bottle inside a tent.

It's running races where I end up with lengthy queues 5x longer for women than the men. All those well hydrated bladders and trying to avoid the practicalities of finding a sheltered, non-prickly bush later.

I'd be fine with a fast-track, wee only set up and that would relieve pressure on a traditional toilet. I'm not sure that the actual toileting position has any advantages in this case. I'm fine with squatting on my ankles with Asian style toilets, but straddling to squat over something higher is no advantage over just sitting on a toilet seat, and it's the hanging up bags/ coats, lowering of clothes at adds time to a female wee over a male urinal.

Ultimately women need more toilet provision rather than the usual same area providing less facilities.

That website is really weird

Man with camera

Bad taste jokes about "that one friend" who always needs to go - esp the "voice" from the coffin

So you take a cardboard shewee in with you? I'm confused.

Having lived in Africa, actual deep squat loos are probably more comfortable. This would remind me of those gym classes, ok squat, feel the burn in those thighs, can you feel it? 😅😂🤣

I went to a festival that had a different type of womens urinals. It was a long metal... gutter I suppose, you straddled and squatted, and up to 3-4 women could go at the same time, but you end up either face to face or face to bum. It really wasn't pleasant and after a few days of using them I lost my balance because my knees aren't all that, and very narrowly avoided a REALLY awkward and messy disaster with another woman who was understandably horrified.

I don't mind urinals in addition to normal loos but the emphasis really has to be on provision of enough normal loo cubicles. It's well intentioned but accidentally ageist and disability excluding.

Women having access to sufficient cubicles is a basic women's rights issue.

How do you squat and stand far enough apart to straddle at same time ? Looks impossible even for tall women!!

This brings me out in a cold sweat remembering a toilet on an island in Greece where there literally was a hole in the ground and it was like a big room , and I could not work out how to squat or remove clothes enough to prevent accidents . It was horrendous.

It looks like a squat toilet. I live in the Middle East and have never successfully used one without splashing my feet. As someone else said this also looks unisex. I wouldn't want to be hovering over a puddle of mens stinking piss.

And there's no doors. And that photo of the cubicle looks tiny.

Apparently these hole in the ground toilets are great for fitness etc IF you have used them your whole life - because then you'll have the requisite thigh muscles etc

Not so great for us softies!! ;-)

It’s never occurred to me to be ‘peed off’ that men can use the toilet quickly. Is this seriously a thing? I’m more peed off when DH stays in the loo for ages to avoid doing something I need help with. I’ve never heard anything like it.

Omg that post from Sixswans shows just how small they see. Not so good for women in jumpsuits, tall women, women with mobility issues, overweight women. A lot of women actually....

Redesign required.

The website is all about saving lorries/costs/the planet

It isn't about helping women at all

The idea that privacy is over seems to be gaining ground. Well, consider me a Victorian - there is no way I’m pissing when other people can see, even if it is only my top half.

I’m not keen on them, but actually think proper hole in the ground toilets are better than this. Nothing to actually touch. This looks like there is a bowl to navigate at ground level. Which apart from just being a physical obstacle that will be difficult for many, will be delightful to brush against once it’s been thoroughly soaked by previous users.

Also the twee word pee.

Surely the answer is to provide more toilets solely for women? I can't see how those will be any quicker to use for someone wearing trousers and I wouldn't want to use anything where there's no sink to wash hands and looks like no toilet roll either. Plus you know there will be some drunk men at a festival trying to get close to peek over the walls, taking up the security's time so they can't help women who don't know how to use it.

What's with the voice coming from a coffin ?
The walls are waay too short and as already said no loo roll or hand washing either

@SnoopCatz

One of the pictures on the website had a man looming over the top with a camera.

Yep, I saw that and thought it was an ill advised photo 😱🤦‍♀️

Why has no one mentioned the picture of the poor woman pooing out a pile of spaghetti?