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Are most actresses very very slim in real life?

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Mitford1789 · 04/06/2021 22:38

I saw a well known actress a few days ago, standing behind her in the queue for a coffee. She was dressed down, however was clearly very pretty in person. However I was taken aback by how slim she was. I would say she was slightly taller than average, not a tiny person if you know what I mean. But so so slim. Do you think most famous actresses/singers etc are like this? Maybe I’m very naive.

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MarshaBradyo · 05/06/2021 14:30

@ovensoff

Look at Kate Middleton when she was at university. Slim but solid looking in that her arms and legs look normal. I am not talking about having a rugby build. Women in south asian countries who are very petite are born from mothers who often did not have enough to eat. It does not mean their daughters do not eat healthily and are not healthy, but those genetics are not healthy. There has been a lot of work to show that genetics do matter. If your parents or grandparents suffered famine or malnutrition that has an impact on your genetics. I am not criticising women with very petite frames, they may be living an extremely healthy lifestyle.
I don’t think you can say the genetics are not healthy. It seems a bit western centric around ideas on size
SunbeamsAndMoonbeams · 05/06/2021 14:31

This is interesting.

I recently dumped a man who insisted that these women are 'normal'; the attractive ideal; and that all women could look like them if only we were more disciplined and ate less.

ovensoff · 05/06/2021 14:31

@ilovecardigans my mother is underweight and is now suffering medical issues because of it. She got down to 6 and a half stone and often claims she does not feel hungry. I was a normal weight and told I was fat. I think it is because of that I can spot when someone is fat, but I can also spot when some is underweight.
Naturally slim looks very different to underweight.

ovensoff · 05/06/2021 14:33

And there is no way I would ever want to be unnaturally slim again in reply to those who claiming we are just jealous. The aim should be trying to be healthy. That is what matters.

Mitford1789 · 05/06/2021 14:36

I didn’t mean to start any body bashing/shaming at all with my post. Just that I was really surprised seeing this actress, and it did make me think - yes talent etc important but basically is being very slim also a big help in these industries? I heard an interview with this actress a while ago and she was very gracious, attributing lots of her success to luck/right place right time. I’m sure that’s right, but I think if she was five stone heavier it would have been far more difficult for her.

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ovensoff · 05/06/2021 14:45

Victoria Wood apparently told Maxine Carr she would never get anywhere unless she slimmed down a lot. Maxine has spoken about this and said Victoria was right.
It seems if you are a character actress like Kathy Burke you do not have to be extremely slim. To be the leading lady you can only get away with no being extremely slim if you are already well-known and a bankable star.

Serpenta · 05/06/2021 14:48

Maxine Peake?

Maxine Carr was...someone very different.

MarshaBradyo · 05/06/2021 14:50

@ovensoff

Victoria Wood apparently told Maxine Carr she would never get anywhere unless she slimmed down a lot. Maxine has spoken about this and said Victoria was right. It seems if you are a character actress like Kathy Burke you do not have to be extremely slim. To be the leading lady you can only get away with no being extremely slim if you are already well-known and a bankable star.
I think if you’re well known and bankable the pressure to stay as you are can be extreme. Hence aging treatment plus dieting.

One actress that seems quite good is Margot Robbie who apparently said no thanks to slimming down for Tarzan

ovensoff · 05/06/2021 14:51

Sorry!!! Yes Maxine Peak. I would edit my comment if I could.

Iamthewombat · 05/06/2021 14:52

Surely nobody will attempt to argue that there isn’t pressure on actresses to be thin?

The evidence is everywhere, much of it from the actresses themselves. Carrie Fisher’s story, upthread, is a good example.

As well as that, Sarah Michelle Gellar was on the record saying that it wasn’t possible for ordinary women to look like her and her fellow actresses because for them, being thin and looking a certain way was their full time job. They had nutritionists and chefs and personal trainers, and lived on miserable restricted diets and protein shakes.

I also remember reading an interview with Sandra Bullock, when Speed came out - so before she was a big star - in which she said that when she got the call to audition for Speed, she had been, I quote, “eating my way around Florida” because she’d got sick of dieting and wanted a break. She then had to embark on a gruelling diet and exercise regime to return to her previous dimensions, to be in with a chance of being cast. Refreshingly honest.

Some films make a joke out of it: in Knocked Up, the Alison character, who works in TV, is offered a trial in front of the camera, and is told to ‘tone up’. Not to lose weight, no, they were not telling her to do that, but everything had to be tighter and more toned, ie smaller.

Somebody upthread mentioned Judy Garland having been given slimming pills by the studio. Greta Garbo apparently ate very little (and what she ate sounded awful!) to stay thin. So it’s nothing new and it feels disingenuous to suggest that most of the women working in film and TV just happen to be naturally thin and anyone attempting to discuss the harmful effects on anybody repeatedly exposed to this version of what women should look like should stop body shaming etc etc.

ovensoff · 05/06/2021 14:55

@Iamthewombat I totally agree. And that it is nothing new.
Everyone seems concerned about people being overweight and yes it is unhealthy. But anorexia has the highest mortality rate of any mental illness.

reallyreallyborednow · 05/06/2021 15:01

One actress that seems quite good is Margot Robbie who apparently said no thanks to slimming down for Tarzan

I think jennifer lawrence also did similar

There was an episode of bones too where the deceased was supposed to be a doppelganger for emily deschanel. The writers/producers had the weight of the body at something ridiculous like 100lbs but emily insisted it was closer to her actual weight and had the script changed.

Moretimetobefullyvaccinated · 05/06/2021 15:06

I think

CorianderBee · 05/06/2021 15:09

Yes. The ones I've met are tiny. Often short or tall.

Iamthewombat · 05/06/2021 15:14

[quote ovensoff]@Iamthewombat I totally agree. And that it is nothing new.
Everyone seems concerned about people being overweight and yes it is unhealthy. But anorexia has the highest mortality rate of any mental illness.[/quote]
Overeating is the other side of the eating disorder coin. In my view anyway. And, I don’t think that being presented with a remorseless parade of images of what they ‘should’ look like is at all helpful to young women trying to find their place in the world.

Anybody interested in the actress thing might be interested to watch the documentary that Claire Sweeney made a few years ago. It is on YouTube. I don’t particularly rate her but the doc was really interesting. She decided to spend a couple of months off from her usual healthy eating and exercise regime to eat what she wanted and have a break from the PT sessions. When she reached size 14 (and she is tall), she went to LA and spoke to some casting directors. All of whom told her that she was far too big to work and that her best hope was being cast as a ‘fat jolly friend’ of the leading lady. The casting people were brutal, but at least they were honest. So the pressure to be thin is a thing!

IMNOTSHOUTING · 05/06/2021 15:15

@SunbeamsAndMoonbeams

This is interesting.

I recently dumped a man who insisted that these women are 'normal'; the attractive ideal; and that all women could look like them if only we were more disciplined and ate less.

Yuck. You're well clear. Ironically most men I know actually prefer curvy frames. My boyfriends were always bemused when I wanted to lose weight and couldn't understand why.

My friend did once have a creepy boyfriend though who was always commenting on women's sizes and proudly stated thatit was 'the thinner the better'. He'd always make little remarks about what my friend was eating (e.g. I think you need to choose between a starter or main course, not have both). God I was relieved when she dumped him.

longwayoff · 05/06/2021 15:15

I went to school with Twiggy. She was the thinnest person that most of us had seen, noticeably thin, looked like she could be snapped in half. But she didn't look gaunt. She didn't look unhealthy. She had flesh, her bones didnt stick out. She was just naturally thin, I think, and a pretty young girl.

Iamthewombat · 05/06/2021 15:24

My friend did once have a creepy boyfriend though who was always commenting on women's sizes and proudly stated thatit was 'the thinner the better'. He'd always make little remarks about what my friend was eating (e.g. I think you need to choose between a starter or main course, not have both). God I was relieved when she dumped him.

She’d have been easier to control if she were physically smaller and weaker, eh? To say nothing of racked with self-doubt and self-loathing.

IMNOTSHOUTING · 05/06/2021 15:31

@Iamthewombat You've probably hit the nail on the head there. He wanted a partner who looked and acted like a child.

CorianderBee · 05/06/2021 15:37

@startingover44

in the 1970's it was shocking for anyone to weigh 10 stone,
What? I'm just under and a size 8 - you're saying I'd be shockingly fat?
ilovecardigans · 05/06/2021 15:39

@Mitford1789

I didn’t mean to start any body bashing/shaming at all with my post. Just that I was really surprised seeing this actress, and it did make me think - yes talent etc important but basically is being very slim also a big help in these industries? I heard an interview with this actress a while ago and she was very gracious, attributing lots of her success to luck/right place right time. I’m sure that’s right, but I think if she was five stone heavier it would have been far more difficult for her.
No worries, @Mitford1789 - you've sparked a good debate.

Interestingly my sister ended up marrying a man who was/is very weight critical (and controlling). I remember going to visit her and was amazed to see her dishing out gargantuan meals to him, while she sat nursing a black coffee and picking at her own tiny plateful. She's in her seventies now and the last time I saw her I'd say her BMI was well below 18.

Beetlewing · 05/06/2021 15:45

Why does the camera add pounds though? And why haven't they invented one that doesn't by now?

ovensoff · 05/06/2021 15:47

@CorianderBee I was under 10 stone and was the "fat girl".

SpeedRunParent · 05/06/2021 16:01

@Pieceofpurplesky

It is scary that young girls see this. There are so many teens today who are so tiny and always on diets. Doesn't help that some staff are the same! The majority of teens at my school want to be a Jenner or a Kardashion figure-wise. This is doing the rounds about Kendall Jenner having the prefect body - lots of girls talking about how they wish they could be like her in this photo. Whilst she is stunning her body is not achievable for many!
This picture is also photoshopped / filtered and not very well either.
SpeedRunParent · 05/06/2021 16:06

@startingover44

in the 1970's it was shocking for anyone to weigh 10 stone,
What? Were you alive in the 70's? I was and it really wasn't.
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