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Johnson has married Carrie. What big bad news is this covering up?

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MyOtherProfile · 30/05/2021 00:09

I can't think why else it would just have been announced.

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MyOtherProfile · 30/05/2021 17:03

Ah well I guess it will all be chip paper tomorrow... And BJ will still win lots of votes.

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tobee · 30/05/2021 17:16

@Clavinova

*Notonthestairs^ Where did I take a moral stance?

I assumed.

So you wouldn't care if Keir Starmer had an affair? And you don't care that Angela Rayner became a grandmother at age 37?

Jesus that's so typically Tory! Judging Angela Rayner for being a grandmother at 37! Such an 80s Tory stance. Working class people being scorned for early parenthood. But if you're of a certain background it's expected that you spread your seed and have as many offspring with as many women as you like.

If you're male you're winked at,slapped on the back for being such a good bloke.

Nicolastuffedone · 30/05/2021 17:45

@mumwon

he was still having an affair whilst married to his ex whether or not she was diagnosed with cancer & this married still seems opportune -
And Marina was his mistress while he was still married. On here it’s usually called karma...
Notonthestairs · 30/05/2021 19:51

I missed Clavinova's questions (although I think they are a bit odd) -

Yes I'm an equal opportunist so I'd absolutely judge Starmer if he was having an affair - or as in Johnson's example multiple affairs spanning multiple marriages.

No I don't judge what age somebody becomes a grandparent- I assume that they don't have control over their child's contraception choices.

MournfulTromboneNoise · 30/05/2021 20:17

Apparently we're getting drubbed over the Aussie Deal.

Fair play to Carrie, she got her man. I assumed he'd have fallen into someone else by now. Apart from the baby with the violinist, obviously.

PersonaNonGarter · 30/05/2021 23:22

I don’t think he wanted to marry her. At all.

MyOtherProfile · 30/05/2021 23:26

@PersonaNonGarter

I don’t think he wanted to marry her. At all.
Oooh why do you think that?
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PersonaNonGarter · 30/05/2021 23:30

The strong implication from the Tom Bower biography of Johnson was that he wasn’t that into Carrie compared to, say, Jennifer Arcuri. But his marriage ended and the music sort of stopped at Carrie. And he was stuck with her once the relationship became known.

Who wants an age difference like that, really? No one. It’s held together with tape. She’d be off if he retired tomorrow.

Farahilda · 30/05/2021 23:42

So how does a woman prosecute her husband for domestic violence then?? Surely this can’t be true?

www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/competence-and-compellability

Spouses/civil partners cannot be compelled to give evidence against the other (Ie be lawfully required to do so). That's not the same as it not being permitted at all - a spouse can choose to give evidence

There are also exceptions if the charges relate to assault, injury or threats to the spouse, or to a child under 16, or aiding, abetting or conspiring to commit those offences. In those cases the spouse is compellable

MyOtherProfile · 31/05/2021 06:41

@PersonaNonGarter interesting. Thanks.

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Peregrina · 31/05/2021 07:35

I don’t think he wanted to marry her. At all.

Look at the pics from the last famous Covid wedding - that of Princess Beatrice - the couple clearly look to be in love with each other, and didn't hang about to get married but got on with it as soon as they could.

Contrast that with Johnson - where Carrie looks happy she's got a ring on her finger at last, but Johnson looks as if he's thinking "Oh crumbs, what have I done, as PM I am more visible, I can't sneak out as easily for a quick bit on the side."

Clavinova · 31/05/2021 09:25

tobee
Jesus that's so typically Tory! Judging Angela Rayner for being a grandmother at 37! Such an 80s Tory stance. Working class people being scorned for early parenthood.

I didn't express an opinion yesterday, but since you ask - 16 (Angela Rayner) is far too young to have a baby in my opinion.

No doubt you think it old-fashioned that left-leaning publications such as the Guardian and the Mirror mention Angela Rayner's age in their headlines - hardly newsworthy that she's now a grandmother.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/22/labours-angela-rayner-becomes-a-grandmother-at-37

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/labour-mp-angela-rayner-becomes-11563698

Clavinova · 31/05/2021 09:28

Who wants an age difference like that, really? No one. It’s held together with tape. She’d be off if he retired tomorrow.

I would point out that Jeremy Corbyn is 20 years older than his third wife.

Peregrina · 31/05/2021 09:40

Was Jeremy Corbyn ever 'living in sin' in Downing Street? I think we should be told. Otherwise, what relevance does it have

Notonthestairs · 31/05/2021 09:42

Personally I have never been a Corbyn supporter and am surprised that you'd choose him to defend Johnson. You clearly know a lot more about him than I do - did Corbyn get his marriages annulled to facilitate a church marriage too?

Rayners child must have been 21 when she had her child. Young but not exactly unheard of.

Clavinova · 31/05/2021 09:53

Personally I have never been a Corbyn supporter and am surprised that you'd choose him to defend Johnson.

Jeremy Corbyn is an obvious comparison to the points raised above - I didn't post - Who wants an age difference like that, really?

Rayners child must have been 21 when she had her child.

20 according to this quote in the Mirror, and you have assumed that 'he' is a 'she' -

"My son (20) & my daughter in law (24) are amazing parents & I’m really proud."

Peregrina · 31/05/2021 10:02

Some marriages with large age differences can still be very successful. What seems less likely is contracting a marriage with a serial adulterer.

itsgettingwierd · 31/05/2021 10:07

@Peregrina

Some marriages with large age differences can still be very successful. What seems less likely is contracting a marriage with a serial adulterer.
Agree.

For me age difference is irrelevant. Love is love. I know a very happily married couple where the man is 11 hrs junior his wife. They've been married for 42 years.

The issue for me is the cheating and the fact you'd choose marriage with someone with such a track record. Having been cheated on with ds father I couldn't accept someone known to do that.

Same with young parents. These things happen and if someone still makes something of their life and raises their child well it's irrelevant.
But I'd be wary of having a child with someone who is known to have a bad track record with providing for all their children to the best of their ability.

I also have no issue with people having 3rd marriages. Multiple marriages IMO aren't a moral issue alongside age gap and number of children.

Morals are about your actions within those circumstances.

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