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Friends with pfbs when your dcs are older ...

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Ahnowcomon · 28/05/2021 17:51

Me and my dh are 36 and have 3 kids, youngest is 3. We had dcs not super young but younger than our friends (we met very young, travelled loads, got degrees, post-grads while having babies so haven't missed out etc).
Anyway now all of our friends are either pregnant with number 1 , thinking about it or a few have their very new (under a year pfb). Thing is , it's always so , so fckn awkward now when we spend time together with our dcs. My dcs are absolutely lovely, very easygoing and very polite , they do have bags of energy but in a normal children way. My friends are at that baby in sling asleep all the time stage and when they call over and see my dcs bouncing around on a trampoline or running around loads like they do or asking me and my dh questions (they aren't very noisy or interfer at all with my friends and their babies ) honestly my friends look a bit horrified , comments like "wow they have so much energy, how do you keep up ? (my dcs are all male and all the babies so far are female , no idea if that has anything to with it). In no way are our dcs unusual, we are actually firm parents and they are very good kids.
They make me feel really self conscious and shit if I'm honest , they are visiting over the summer as we actually live in a nice location and have a holiday-let but feel like I'll have to hide my dcs away or something... they are all at first bump stage or have an immobile babies and can sit around loads etc. Obviously my dcs, particularly my youngest (two older ones 7 and 10 play and do their own thing) who is 3 is going to be wandering around , needing help with things, climbing up stuff as he does. My dh just tells me not to be so self conscious but I am, I can see the looks and stares if my 3 year old is stuck somewhere or running off etc...Like obviously your 4 month old is easy to watch...they can't move.....
There were comments like "so glad our dcs are so chilled and happy to play with a stick or chew on a block" , so were my babies but my 10 year old has moved on i guess.. Comments about my dcs watching cartoons (we won't be letting ours etc, bad for the brain), we limit TV.
I have to point out that all the events, meet-ups etc when we had babies were child-free so me and my dh would make loads of effort to attend weddings and meet ups by ourselves (we have family but they don't do babysitting). I absolutely adore dcs and I get that ppl will say that they had zero interest in other ppls kids pre their own or even now, maybe it's my culture or something but I find that really shit tbh. I take an interest in whats important in anyones life be it career, pets , hobbies , kids etc and when I went to uni my best friend was a single mum and we would meet in the playground for coffee or I would call over to hers in the evening with a bottle of wine as I thought this was normal. They made zero effort to way but now there's no question of them not bringing their dcs. I'm fine about it and totally accommodating.. It's weird though and just a bad atmosphere if I'm totally honest. I get that it's a very special, particular time with your first but I hate ppl that can't see from others perspectives.
Just wondering if ppl have similar experiences and how they handled it?

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Mrsfrumble · 29/05/2021 11:19

I don’t think OP comes across as smug. She’s just a more experienced parent than someone who only has one baby.

My children are 8 and 10, so I’d also be rolling my eyes at a new parent who thought they knew it all. But then I have many friends with children who are teenagers and young adults, who are much more experienced wiser than I am, and I like to hope I have the humility and self-awareness to not judge their handling of parent situations I have not yet found myself in.

chesterelly · 29/05/2021 11:19

Surely this is what the MN head-tilt, tinkly laugh was invented for? I remember once saying to a friend who was at the smug, pfb in a sling stage that the problem with parenting is that every time you think you've got a handle on it the little fuckers move the goal posts and enter a new challenging stage - sleep regression, separation anxiety, potty training, starting school meltdowns, etc etc.
If I had visited a friend with a 10 year old when mine were babies I'd have probably been all "do you want to take minichester out for a stroll in their pram while your mum and I have a cuppa" or "minichester loves watching big boys and girls I'll pop them down beside you on a playmat". My youngest and her partner in crime bestie famously sellotaped bestie's younger sister to the floor to stop her wriggling over to get what they were playing with whilst we were chatting in another room so definitely don't try that with the three year old.----

Horehound · 29/05/2021 11:25

What am I missing?
Saying "they have so much energy, how do you keep up" is hardly a big deal. Confused

You sound very insecure and like your in competition with them. I'm sure your friends are not judging you at all. If they thought your children were bothersome I doubt they'd be visiting you for a holiday...

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Horehound · 29/05/2021 11:30

Reading more "Anyway we are super accommodating, much more than they ever were..."

Well yeh, you know why that is? Because when you had your kids no one else did and if you then take one child to an event it changes the atmosphere. Things change when more on the group have kids, and since there are more children in makes sense everyone is on board with having then there. It's just the way it goes I'm afraid.

grapewine · 29/05/2021 11:30

I'm irritated by your friends and I don't even know them! You don't have to stay friends and you sure as hell don't have to host them. Tell them the holiday let fell down.

Yeah, I wouldn't be hosting these people anytime soon.

FlyNow · 29/05/2021 11:43

I guess you have to take a middle ground. If they are being as rude as you say, definitely reply back "oh yes, that's what we used to think" or similar.

On the other hand, you have to cut them some slack. There's nothing worse than a friend who is slightly ahead at all the life events, and as a result is so over it when it's everyone else's turn.

Ahnowcomon · 29/05/2021 12:01

We're cutting them loads of slack and we get on very well in general, it's not a major issues , just slightly irritating and I can see I'm not alone ! Alot of responses mirror our experiences. Thankfully I have friends also with dcs the same age as ours too and similar ages to us.
I could be wrong @Horehound but I'm getting strong sleep deprived parent of small child /children vibes off you Grin

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Ahnowcomon · 29/05/2021 12:07

Our area has some nice scenery and ppl visit regularly and I have no issue with them staying at all but won't be hiding my dcs away. Also it was obvs more than the one comment but can see it's common enough. I'll just enjoy cooing at their gorg babies safe in the knowledge that I can hand them back and sleep all night !!!( two of mine woke regularly until 4 so it's well deserved) . Thanks for all.the helpful comments and laughs. Just normal to have different perspectives at this time and I'll ignore the bs and just enjoy the company.

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Horehound · 29/05/2021 12:08

@Ahnowcomon

We're cutting them loads of slack and we get on very well in general, it's not a major issues , just slightly irritating and I can see I'm not alone ! Alot of responses mirror our experiences. Thankfully I have friends also with dcs the same age as ours too and similar ages to us. I could be wrong *@Horehound* but I'm getting strong sleep deprived parent of small child /children vibes off you Grin
Yep but I've not seen any of my friends kids in 1.5 years and we all had at similar times. But you've had responses of similar experiences because people were in similar situations to you. First to have children, now yours are older and they now had children. You have no clue what it's like to have a child before you have one and I'm sure they weren't interested when you had yours because to them you probably became the fuddy un-fun one and now they all are too lol.

I dunno, I don't really see the issue in then being surprised at how much energy kids have a d I don't necessarily see it as a negative comment? It sounds like they are shocked to know what's in store for them in a few years time, but that's nothing against or about you.

Horehound · 29/05/2021 12:08

Why would you think you need to hide then away though? This is the weird bit.
No one is expecting you to!

Ozanj · 29/05/2021 12:16

Who is comparing you or them? I do think your DH has a point. Are you ashamed of your kids? Are your friends in a position to give their kids more than you could with yours? I do think this is your problem more than theirs otherwise you would have told them already that babies grow up & they have no idea of what’s to come.

Ahnowcomon · 29/05/2021 12:50

No , I adore my dcs , not ashamed of them, there was a few comments and no I'm not imagining it and no we have done really well thankfully so they aren't in a better position than us having dcs older.
The comments have actually really helped me see from their side tbh and I think I'll have to cut them some slack. I really enjoy their company and we are just at different life stages so all good. Plenty of friends here with kids same ages as mine and tbh it is less awkward. But all good , we will let out kids be kids and ill just chill a bit .

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Cotswoldmama · 29/05/2021 12:52

I think I'd have to say something, something like 'you've got all this to come, enjoy these moments whilst you can!'

BertieBotts · 29/05/2021 12:56

Oh, give it a year and they'll be in toddler land and it will all have evened out a bit, your older ones will be highly in demand to entertain the little ones as well!

Maybe just steer clear for a bit if they are annoying you :o

tcjotm · 29/05/2021 13:24

The bit about their baby being content to chew quietly on a block but maybe your ten year old has moved on made me laugh. They should maybe go stand outside a primary school at lunchtime to see all the children racing around like crazies. Kids have energy!

I get they haven’t experienced parenting older children yet but surely they remember being children or at least have observed them in the wild or on TV. Lol, they‘ll work it out but it’s not on to make snide comments to you.

CheeseIsMyJam · 29/05/2021 13:42

Yes we have friends that do similar, their child is about 1 year younger and they're aghast when our son has standard challenging toddler moments. Their time will come and I shrug it off, you sound a bit oversensitive tbh.

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