If you asked for a salary of £75k

[DelilahDingleberry]

If you asked for a salary of £75k and you were told that it “won’t be exactly what was proposed but it wouldn’t be a million miles away”, how much would you expect to be offered?

But they probably mean 65.

Would I take it. Depends on everything else as, for me, works not just about money.

I'm imagining around £70 - £72k.

Hope OP comes back soon with an update

It would depend on if they knew what I was on now and how the role was advertised.

I'd want it to start with a 7 and if not I'd want a "package" that compensates for the shabby number.

I'd then be looking to push the shabby number up and also push on the benefits.

Do some research online if possible to understand what of the package is negotiable.
E.g. media agencies can "grade" employees which comes with a host of benefits- high bonuses better pensions, car allowance etc, big tech use an algorithm so unless you are tech (im not 😂) you can only really neg on signing bonus as pay and shares are algorithm based.
In some start ups base salary has fairly hard caps in some roles but you can negotiate higher bonuses % and deferred % ownership of business (worth ££££ when they sell out to a big 4 or PE)

Don't be afraid to literally say... thank you so much i am really excited about this job unfortunately this current package doesn't work for me - what areas of the offer do you have room to improve?

I recommend negotiating line by line (base salary, bonus, pension, shares etc)

£65-68k, with some talk about earning more once goals are met...of course pay rise won't happen for a long while as we paid more than we were looking to when we hired you etc etc

Agree with above if you get multiple benefits eg private health, car etc then 65k+ if not significant benefits then I'd expect 70k

@Hallyup6

Does it matter? It's a shit load more than most people. Posts like this piss me off.

Agree, this is a typical stealth boast thread where everyone chips in with how much they get blah blah blah

@Hoppinggreen

Yes it does bloody matter. Should OP accept less than going rate just because some people are on min wage? Pure jealousy

Some people like up boast

What was the salary range advertised at/what were you told during the interview process?

Generally, I wouldn’t accept anything lower than £70,000.

Oh give over. It’s not stealth boasting to ask advice on a salary. I earn nowhere near £70k myself.

I’d expect at least £72k and a decent pension contribution.

£73

Sakura I can’t see where other people have chipped in with how much they earn. I certainly haven’t
Its a perfectly legitimate discussion and not one men would shy away from either, especially with the potential employer.

@ifyougetthechancedoit

High sixties, low seventies.

As an aside, DH has been negotiating salaries recently. He currently earns ever so slightly less than me and has a secured an offer which would see him earning £40k more than me. It's been an eye opening experience, and does make me wonder how much this arrogance confidence explains part of the gender pay gap.

That’s quite a jump @ifyougetthechancedoit. Was your husband very underpaid before? Or is he moving up in roles / job titles? Congratulations to him nonetheless!

@JingsMahBucket it is a really big jump. It is more responsibility but it's also through really bullish negotiating techniques. I didn't know he had it in him, pretty sure I should've left the negotiating to him when we moved house!

@LivingLaVidaCovid

I'd want it to start with a 7 and if not I'd want a "package" that compensates for the shabby number.

I'd then be looking to push the shabby number up and also push on the benefits.

Do some research online if possible to understand what of the package is negotiable.
E.g. media agencies can "grade" employees which comes with a host of benefits- high bonuses better pensions, car allowance etc, big tech use an algorithm so unless you are tech (im not 😂) you can only really neg on signing bonus as pay and shares are algorithm based.
In some start ups base salary has fairly hard caps in some roles but you can negotiate higher bonuses % and deferred % ownership of business (worth ££££ when they sell out to a big 4 or PE)

Don't be afraid to literally say... thank you so much i am really excited about this job unfortunately this current package doesn't work for me - what areas of the offer do you have room to improve?

I recommend negotiating line by line (base salary, bonus, pension, shares etc)

Shabby number? Really? Fucking hell

@topcat2014

You should never disclose your current salary. No obligation to do so.

I really hope and wish that this becomes reality. I was screwed on salary on years because I was so badly paid at one job, the next job decided they could offer me a very low salary as it was still better than what I was on. I wish I still worked at that firm as in today's climate, I'd be able to absolutely take them to the cleaners for pay discrimination.

OP - anything less than £71 I would consider too far off £75k to even consider (assuming £75k is an appropriate salary for the job).

My advice is that if you asked for £75k but would secretly be thrilled with £70k, then fine if that's what they offer you. But if you genuinely want £75k, think you deserve £75k and believe the job is worth £75k, do not accept less because a) it will just fester and annoy you that they weren't willing to pay those few thousand extra that is HUGE for you but relatively little for them and b) you will constantly feel that they don't value you.

And I speak from experience. I am still working for one client who underpays and about whom I am increasingly resentful and frustrated. But firing a client, and losing that source of income, is a very scary proposition and I haven't managed to quite bring myself to do it yet, even though I have multiple clients who pay 50% more than he does.

Not less than £71k and other stuff on top, though the other stuff is probably more for their benefit (tax reductions etc) than yours.

Difference in take home between 70k & 75k is about £200 a month after tax.

Negotiate if you're not happy. It's not rude to negotiate.

@LST
Hiya! 🖐
Yes, a shabby number.
If your skills and talents command a rate of £75k pa and someone comes and offers you 65k which is not what the market will bear... I consider that pretty shabby.

I agree with @MsMarch
And firmly believe in striking "good deals". If you offer the top band of X salary for a role you expect a top performer. If the candidate joining the team has begrudgingly accepted X but thinks they should on x +10k it is a recipe for disaster as there are mismatched expectations and everyone thinks they are doing each other a favour.

[quote LivingLaVidaCovid]@LST
Hiya! 🖐
Yes, a shabby number.
If your skills and talents command a rate of £75k pa and someone comes and offers you 65k which is not what the market will bear... I consider that pretty shabby.

I agree with @MsMarch
And firmly believe in striking "good deals". If you offer the top band of X salary for a role you expect a top performer. If the candidate joining the team has begrudgingly accepted X but thinks they should on x +10k it is a recipe for disaster as there are mismatched expectations and everyone thinks they are doing each other a favour.[/quote]
Regardless, that is not a shabby number ffs.

Sooo...what did you get offered, OP?

70k

Realistically, I'd think 65k would be offered.

Just remember not to accept the very first offer but at least try with a counter offer. This is how men end up with way more £££ than us!