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I think harry is really brave

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ssd · 21/05/2021 09:18

Talking about his mental health. Starting talking is the hardest bit. I have to start the conversation and i cant. And i can usually talk for Britain.
I admire him.

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CathyorClaire · 21/05/2021 14:46

Funny how he only started bleating when Charles cut the funding.

Quite.The funding that was made available despite him having his own lavishly padded wallet.

Harry and Meghan wanted to be "half in/half out" of the Royal family just over a year ago. It obviously all can't have been that bad.

And 'quite' again. Plus if it's that ghastly you'd think dropping out of the line of succession and ditching the titles might be on the cards but no.

Amelia666 · 21/05/2021 14:47

@ChardonnaysPetDragon

I’ve had issues growing up. I’m planning on taking out a couple of billboards, GoogleAd/FB campaigns, filming a monologue outlining who I blame for various foibles I’ve encountered and then distributing printed newsletters locally with a full synopsis of what my issues are and who I blame for them, the various ways I perceive myself to be wronged in all myriad of ways and why I got off my face and partied as a teen.

Admire me.

Are you selling tickets to the Amelia666 show as well? Because you could.

If you’re buying, I’m selling.

Purely to cleanse my mental palate and definitely not for the money Wink

RickiTarr · 21/05/2021 14:47

Does anyone actually believe that Megan couldn't access mental health help? They'd have access to whatever help they wanted and it would all be 100% private.

I don’t think Harry is very good at telling a clear narrative (he’d make a rubbish witness or journalistic source), so I don’t want to rely too literally on what he’s said but yes it does seem odd, particularly now that he’s saying he’s been in therapy for four years.

DarkMutterings · 21/05/2021 14:47

The most telling thing for me is how little Harry was seen in the first interview with Oprah .... because she knew this one was either recorded or about to be recorded. Double whammy of headlines and viewers. If he'd said more in the first interview this new series would be less. Total and utter manipulation by Oprah, she's the professional she knows this game. They are mere amateurs .

Xenia · 21/05/2021 14:48

The posters saying those of us who think Harry should have respected privacy more must be uneducated is a bit unfair. I have not said those who support him disclosing confidential information which in the UK would breach the law and which damages his family is uneducated. It is just a different view.

Mind you Harry saying he was against US freedom of speech when he is using it to make money is one reason he should really have a royal minder looking after his interests no his wife and US advisers.

SoTiredNeedHoliday · 21/05/2021 14:48

@DifferentHair I'm rooting for him, I hope he is happy. Me too but it's very unfortunate that he's just given up his entire family and way of life. There's only 1 happy person about that and it's not him, he's the big loser here and Megan is the winner she gets all the publicity she clearly loves and he is now alone with just her. It's so sad.

Justme10 · 21/05/2021 14:48

Again, I don't see what the point is in talking about things which happened a quarter of a century ago. Charles and Di gave one interview each, and quickly regretted it. Harry has been running his mouth for months, with no end in sight.

S111n20 · 21/05/2021 14:49

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KarensChoppyGob · 21/05/2021 14:51

You be sad for them then tired, whatever fills your boots. They seen very much in love which seems to rub so very many people up the wrong way. Baffling.

SoTiredNeedHoliday · 21/05/2021 14:51

@S111n20 I think he was vulnerable and she's the puppet master and he just goes along for the ride as what option does he have now? he has no one else......

Thephantom · 21/05/2021 14:52

Apparently he was at his worst mentally when he was aged 28 to 32. He was 32 in 2016, so that explains it innit.

CokeDrinker · 21/05/2021 14:54

[quote SoTiredNeedHoliday]@DifferentHair I'm rooting for him, I hope he is happy. Me too but it's very unfortunate that he's just given up his entire family and way of life. There's only 1 happy person about that and it's not him, he's the big loser here and Megan is the winner she gets all the publicity she clearly loves and he is now alone with just her. It's so sad.[/quote]
@SoTiredNeedHoliday Meghan the 'winner'? The woman who has endured racist abuse in the media and has received death threats from Neo Nazis?

Or is it it misogyny that is driving you to put all the blame on the woman, when she is clearly the victim in all this?

Watermelon222 · 21/05/2021 14:54

“I think he's done the best he can with the shitty cards he has been dealt. “

Hmmm

Well we all have shitty cards at some times in our lives though don’t we? Granted some more so than others.

In my work I come across people with very “shitty cards” in terms of health, poverty and extremely harrowing childhoods. Some are desperate for mental health provision. The interesting thing about many of them is that they don’t wallow in self pity or blame others for their situation. I would love to be able to help them more.

CorianderBee · 21/05/2021 14:54

I don't think he's brave but I do like him!

Summercocktailsinthesnow · 21/05/2021 14:55

coke We are talking about the UK and the US, not whatever country you are in! And here, as in the US you can fly in and out for essential reasons and a dying relative is one of those. So Harry could have easily flown back and said goodbye to PP, he choose not to. Probably Harry could not look his grandfather in the eye after all he had done to harm him and the family. Harry knows full well how devastated Prince Philip would be to learn of his treachery and harm.

IF Harry had requested the Oprah interview to be delayed due to Prince Philip's declining health and imminent death, they could have done so. H&M made it clear they would only delay the interview showing if he died!!! How big of them?! I mean, how callous and low do you have to be to go ahead given the circumstances. They choose not to delay the showing knowing they were placing a bomb under the royal family at a time of great suffering. Is that the actions of a decent person? I would say absolutely not.

The idea that you can just hurl abuse at your family on a daily basis and still be considered measured, kind and compassionate is quite faintly ridiculous.
You will be hard pressed to find any support for Harry now in the UK, and it is massively declining in the US now too - so lets really hope Meghan doesn't drop Harry when she is done making a quick buck on his misery (not hers we might note) and he will be the latest in a long line of MM casualties, because god help him he has literally nobody left in the world but her, and I suspect that is exactly what she wanted. Classic abusive relationship.

CokeDrinker · 21/05/2021 14:55

[quote SoTiredNeedHoliday]@S111n20 I think he was vulnerable and she's the puppet master and he just goes along for the ride as what option does he have now? he has no one else......[/quote]
Your misogyny is obvious and disgusting and says a lot about you. Evidence shows Harry wanted out of the RF many years ago and he smashed a cameramans camera. But do keep making out like Meghan is the villainous succubus. Hmm

shewalkslikerihanna · 21/05/2021 14:57

@Whinginadeville

I think he's being used by Oprah and her ilk. They don't care about his clearly fragile mental health and are monetising his victimhood. All thise who genuinely care about him and have trued to help, protect and nurture him have been cut from his life. The RF may be flawed but he was a loved, treasured and valued member to be selling them out like this is a very bad look. One he'll regret when the Oprah's of this world lose interest.

Totally agree
You only have to look at Oprah’s face
She feigns shock when the reality is she can’t believe her good luck at the beans that are being spilt while her bank balance is going kerching kerching kerching

That’s not therapy
That’s throwing your family under a bus

SueSaid · 21/05/2021 15:00

'Of course it's good to talk. But to a trained professional who can help him. Not to the world's media'

This. He is wreaking his revenge as he couldn't have his own way a year ago, dressed up in the guise of talking about his mh.

Badpicknic · 21/05/2021 15:00

@ssd

I disagree. If talking to the media helps him, then so be it. Im currently having counselling from a trained professional and getting nowhere. And dont tell me to find someone else, its through the gp and rarer than gens teeth.
How much are you earning from talking to your therapist? I bet £0 and it’s completely confidential.

Harry is slagging his family of on video for mega bucks.

Hardly brave. Just cashing in before he become irrelevant and megs has to go to work

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 21/05/2021 15:01

Not brave. Not at all.

Self indulgent and bitter.

But not brave.

Justme10 · 21/05/2021 15:01

Again, I don't see what the point is in talking about things which happened a quarter of a century ago. Charles and Di gave one interview each, and quickly regretted it. Harry has been running his mouth for months, with no end in sight.

I'm just saying I don't understand the argument about how what Harry's done will effect Charles and if it does then it's a bit hypocritical in my opinion. But we disagree and that's fine.

*That sounds like a fairly arbitrary distinction to me.

What good is going to come out of Harry constantly slagging off his family in public? If his family damaged his 'mental health', then surely it's best to discuss it with them, or with a therapist? How is being bitter about them in front of the world going to help anyone?
*
We don't know what conversations have or haven't been had within the family. We don't know how Harry will have been treated if he tried to have these conversations.
He is opening up about his mental health and how being a prince doesn't necessarily mean your life is a easy and perfect.
In today's world of social media young people especially need to know that just because you are shown a 'perfect' life doesn't make it true.
That anyone can have problems and it's okay to talk and get help.
*
Would you be happy if a family member took to the airwaves, or even to Facebook, to claim that you damaged their 'mental health'?*

I would hope they would speak to me first and I know I wouldn't dismiss their feelings so we could talk about it and I would do everything in my power to support them, hopefully it wouldn't get to the point of airwaves or facebook but we can't control the actions of others.

VoodooQueenofthebayou · 21/05/2021 15:01

I completely disagree, I think he has actually done more damage to discussing mental health than good. What he has done is weaponise it to settle old scores and monetise it to fund his future. He has not come at this with clean hands so his credibility is shot.

I think he is very publicly unravelling and is in a spiral downwards. He's probably only got so much to sell and is hoping something sticks that he can make a long term income from. The problem is he is becoming a side show which isn't good because that tends to get very old very quickly.

His celebrity pals will start backing away from him once he isn't useful anymore. They are clearly using him right now and making money off the situation. He will eventually become persona non grata when he keeps selling stories.

Its really sad to watch.

I feel sad for William, must be painful watching him unravel so publicly. William went through exactly the same trauma and there's no acknowledgement of that, its all about Harry.

Its really sad to watch.

SoTiredNeedHoliday · 21/05/2021 15:01

@CokeDrinker she is in a position of power that enables her to make changes and direct media towards the positives and to call out politely and with grace where things are not being dealt with properly. He also has the power to make that happen, again with grace. Instead, they run away and leave with a note put on social media..... a bit childish isn't it?
Then they go on Opera and tell the world a load of trash like 'I didn't know anything about the royal family, I didn't google them' or that no one would give her access to mental health experts.

CokeDrinker · 21/05/2021 15:02

@Summercocktailsinthesnow

coke We are talking about the UK and the US, not whatever country you are in! And here, as in the US you can fly in and out for essential reasons and a dying relative is one of those. So Harry could have easily flown back and said goodbye to PP, he choose not to. Probably Harry could not look his grandfather in the eye after all he had done to harm him and the family. Harry knows full well how devastated Prince Philip would be to learn of his treachery and harm.

IF Harry had requested the Oprah interview to be delayed due to Prince Philip's declining health and imminent death, they could have done so. H&M made it clear they would only delay the interview showing if he died!!! How big of them?! I mean, how callous and low do you have to be to go ahead given the circumstances. They choose not to delay the showing knowing they were placing a bomb under the royal family at a time of great suffering. Is that the actions of a decent person? I would say absolutely not.

The idea that you can just hurl abuse at your family on a daily basis and still be considered measured, kind and compassionate is quite faintly ridiculous.
You will be hard pressed to find any support for Harry now in the UK, and it is massively declining in the US now too - so lets really hope Meghan doesn't drop Harry when she is done making a quick buck on his misery (not hers we might note) and he will be the latest in a long line of MM casualties, because god help him he has literally nobody left in the world but her, and I suspect that is exactly what she wanted. Classic abusive relationship.

@Summercocktailsinthesnow Wow, the assumptions, misogyny and vicious spite is palpable in your posts. Blaming Meghan for Harry speaking out. Oh yes, Harry the one who smashed a camera man's camera and broke it before he even met Meghan, who always hated the paps is the 'victim' of nasty succubus Meghan, right? Who needs men to hate women when your posts will do? What else will you blame Meghan for, and make out like Harry is a person without means and wishes? Your sexism is clear. Long line of casualties? Your posts are eaten up with hate, spite, and tabloids.

H&M made it clear they would only delay the interview showing if he died!!!
Where exactly did he say this? Or was it Piers from the Daily Fail? How about backing up your bizarre claims?

PandorasMailbox · 21/05/2021 15:04

@HeraInTheHereAndNow

DelilahDingleberry

“I am appalled at the way people are talking about mental health on this site today. Absolutely appalled.”

Really.

You ought to be. When my son was suicidal and brought home by the police having stood on a railway bridge deliberating on life and death, he was told there were no beds available locally. A bed was found for him at The Maudsley in London (135 miles away) but not until he was 18 as it was an adult unit. So, we were out in a CAMHS waiting list.

Forgive me if I don’t feel huge sympathy for Harry. I do however, feel greatly for all the kids/young people who wait 18months plus for a mental health clinic appointment.

This ^^