Aargh I got scammed! So cross with myself!!

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Had loads of weird calls from mobile numbers similar to mine and I knew I’d be at risk but then I saw a message from dpd saying I’d missed a delivery (which I was waiting for) while I was on a zoom call then rushed through the website link. I put my credit card info in and hope to god I didn’t put in my bank info.

Then it linked my to dpd U.K. and I thought NO!! Omg!! I’m not in the U.K.!!

I stopped the card immediately and called my U.K. bank as it was my U.K. credit card but I’m now a bit worried about my bank account and my mobile number. That they’ll have “marked me”

Any advice, similar experiences l, rage against criminals n internet providers that don’t stop this or just plain old sympathy for my stupidity v v welcome!!

@korawick12345 yes but that's how scams work, they trick you into doing things you shouldn't, and they can be very convincing - they clearly do work for some people otherwise these criminals wouldn't bother.
Please don't ever think you wouldn't fall for one because they get more and more clever.

It all makes me so mad which is why I'm trying to raise awareness - like the OP is.

The DPD scam has been both lucrative financially to the fraudsters and has been around for some time:-

www.theguardian.com/money/2020/dec/19/missed-delivery-parcel-scams-christmas-dpd-royal-mail

@FlyingBurrito

The bit I don't get though is why you would merrily type your bank details in to receive a delivery? That is not how couriers work IME so surely that would send up a red flag to you?

You're lucky if you haven't had one of these spam messages, they all follow a pattern similar to this on. Makes sense if you're a bit distracted or don't think twive

I have had hundreds of the spam messages! The moment they want me to sign in via a link it raises suspicions. The reason I am on this thread was to see if they had come up with something new! Not blaming anyone who has fallen for then BTW the are total fuckers but i was just checking that basically they are still relying on the victim giving them the info rather than some sort of electronic retrieval

"Please don't ever think you wouldn't fall for one because they get more and more clever."

This is surely one of the pitfalls over doing so much by mobile phone?

@FlyingBurrito

The bit I don't get though is why you would merrily type your bank details in to receive a delivery? That is not how couriers work IME so surely that would send up a red flag to you?

You're lucky if you haven't had one of these spam messages, they all follow a pattern similar to this on. Makes sense if you're a bit distracted or don't think twive

My photo attach isn't working but the scam message says that you need to pay a small fee for delivery and asks for your card details

It really is getting bad now, isn't it? And there really isn't a lot the authorities can do - the scammers change things so fast they can't keep up.

@Tambora

It really is getting bad now, isn't it? And there really isn't a lot the authorities can do - the scammers change things so fast they can't keep up.

They do change things but they are all variations on a theme of 'click the link and input you card details'. Given that there are very few occasions where that is legitimate surely the best approach is never to click a link and submit your details. I can't think of anytime when I have HAD to do that.

Can they clone a card without actually ever having it? That is a bit scarey, most people input their details into so many online buying sites nowadays but I'd have assumed they actually needed the card to do contactless transactions. Did any of the shops have CCTV? not the card, but with google and Apple Pay now they can easily insert a card number into their own account (which of course won’t contain accurate details) and then go on a spending spree with their mobile phone/smart watch. So actually apple/google pay has made credit card theft even more possible. Iyswim.

As for thinking that data is being leaked. Truth is that they send out thousands and thousands of these texts and it so happens that some of them will go to people who are expecting deliveries so they are more likely to take them seriously while the rest will be deleted. The more they send, the more chance they have of catching someone. Same with texts from your bank/paypal/amazon some people will have accounts with the above and others won’t.

I had a text from HSBC/ the other day and I’ve never had an HSBC account in my life. But someone receiving that text will, and they will respond.

The scams themselves are actually quite simplistic. But it’s because there are so many of them now that people fall victim more and more.

@UhtredRagnarson

I’ve had the DPD scam several times and it’s always when I’ve actually ordered something. I’m starting to wonder how these scammers know I have ordered things? Have the companies I’ve ordered from been hacked or are selling my info?

It's a good bet. Like a broken clock, it will still be right twice a day.

My latest scam attempt is Virgin - I have had several phone calls from "Virgin", who would like to help me find the best possible package available. I have no idea what happens after that opening line because (a) the first time the called I had just negotiated the best possible deal three days previously, (b) I am opted out of marketing calls, and (c) I hung up. I have even had the call on my work mobile, and I am absolutely sure I don't even have Virgin at work!

The thing is that Sky has 12.7 million UK customers and Virgin has nearly 6 million. The odds are that on randomly dialled numbers you are going to hit someone who has one or the other, just like you will find someone with a DPD delivery or a Royal Mail delivery expected.

My latest on line one is that my Instagram account has been signed in to from many different locations over the last several days. I don't have an instagram account. But many people do.

I always seem to get The Royal Mail scam text messages, fake Amazon etc but I also received one claiming to be a well known parcel company...

As I was literally waiting for a delivery from them!

First time happened and it hasn't happened since.

Claimed they had been at the door but no answer so to rearrange delivery. We all know some just leave parcels at times or simply don't ring the doorbell so I can see how some people could easily fall for it.

Usually this company sends emails to notify of the parcel whereabouts but this scam could very easily catch lots out.

Also constant messages claiming to be HSBC also - just read the post above mine.

Calls pretending to be from Carphone Warehouse.

Phone usually picks up if it is a scam number but for some reason phone also claims that the hospital calling you is a scam number also

"My photo attach isn't working but the scam message says that you need to pay a small fee for delivery and asks for your card details"

That's surely what gives it away as a scam though?

A similar thing happened to me today op. I got a text from a random mobile number from "hermes" asking me to pay 1.99 or something for a delivery. I very nearly almost entered my details but then realized that i haven't actually ordered anything recently. It was asking for my name, mobile number, bank details etc. Unfortunately we have to be cautious these days because of scammers!

@diddl

"My photo attach isn't working but the scam message says that you need to pay a small fee for delivery and asks for your card details"

That's surely what gives it away as a scam though?

Well yes, to the savvy, I was answering the poster who didn't understand why anyone would give their card details out

It must work or they wouldn't keep on doing it, there are 2 people who were scammed just out of those who've seen this thread so it's not unreasonable to assume they get a good number of card details out of it.

"Well yes, to the savvy, I was answering the poster who didn't understand why anyone would give their card details out"

I suppose that I'm naturally cautious & suspicious, especially where paying unnecessarily & handing out card/bank details are concerned.

There are so many scams going on at the moment.

This week Royal Mail, UPS, Hermes and DHL (twice) have failed to deliver a parcel to me and would like me to click a link to tell them when to retry, presumably disclosing my personal details in the process. I haven’t ordered anything.

The week before TSB and Halifax contacted me about new payees being added to my account. I don’t bank with either of them.

I also go through phases of getting calls from mobiles that look like mine.

It’s like the scammers are operating a rota system. I wish they’d sod off and put all this effort into doing something useful.

Doubt they can do much with your name and dob. That is information which can be freely available so doubt that’s what their master plan was based on. Get a new credit cars issued with different number. Ask bank to alter your account no - anything set up direct debit etc can bounce forward to the new account. And maybe change your phone number. These scummy companies artists are getting smarter. But never go through a link sent by text or email ( unless you need to verify when you’re setting up via a trusted source). Always go through the companies web sight. I’ve had quite a few dpd ones myself. And calls from amazon about charging me money for something so press 1 to sort it. Or call from HMRC telling me
I’m going to be arrested. Total nonsense the lot of them.

I don't understand this at all but it's obviously happened to a lot of you. I don't understand why any courier company would ever ask for your personal details? I don't understand why anyone would send them confidential details. Am I missing something?

I think that’s it - most of the time I identify them and don’t think anything about it

This time it was possible due to what happens in this country. If you miss a delivery - which is mostly - you can pay a fee to redeliver to your apartment or collect from a delivery centre. I just thought if they could redeliver to the apartment it would save me time. I was also coming to the end of two hour long zoom calls with different friends (where it’s rude to do anything else but chat) and late to call mum which made me a bit rushed

It is easy to say looking on I would never do that, I’ve done it myself, but the fraud industry is clever and maybe we need more information and awareness of this (and then more pressure to follow it up and crack down on this sort of crime)

We’ve had a few similar - inc. one supposedly from Hermes when I was actually expecting a Hermes delivery.

I dare say it’s not too hard to be caught, though, if you’re busy and distracted by other things on your mind. Some time ago there was a piece in the Times money section by a financial journalist who’d been scammed. You’d think that’d be about the last person.

But the nervous/naive/easily frightened are sitting ducks. Not long ago I had a wrong number call from an elderly-sounding woman who was in a terrible tizz because she’d had a call from Amazon to say she owed £X for something - she told me she’d never ordered anything from Amazon but had pressed 1 as instructed anyway!!

Just as well she got me instead - I was able to reassure her that it was a scam, no need to worry.

But I’m very reassured that there are people who would never fall for such a scam!

Yes much worse for my mum with a landline - she’s had them all!

Including several from the Microsoft help desk when she doesn’t have a computer - I think she rather enjoyed those!

Poor you, so upsetting.

I’m being bombarded with this right now. Mobile and house phone. Recorded messages on the mobile telling me there’s court action against me and phone is an actual person (overseas number - Germany I think) telling me they’re from BT (not my provider). I must admit I got cross and shouted at the last one telling him to stop trying to scam me and that he should be ashamed, and to get a proper job like everyone else.

So if paying for re delivery is a thing where you are Op, that makes it more understandable.

Had no idea that it was a thing!

I’m a total idiot - it’s not an excuse - they asked me for £1.99 🤦🏻‍♀️ when I’d clicked on the link to rearrange redelivery!

If my failure as a competent adult stops one person from falling for something similar I’ll be happy

And at sometime I’ll get my flipping olaplex that they haven’t even despatched yet! (Don’t tell me if it’s a waste of money)