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What now makes you uncomfortable that didn't at the time

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drinkingwineoutofamug · 01/05/2021 12:18

As a teenager I like listening to a certain rock band.
Just found their album on iTunes, downloaded and listened.
I was shocked. One of the songs - sung by grown men - ' she's a 13 yr tease , with bleach blonde hair. Let me eat your cookies , let me see your cookies '
Sat in the bath gob smacked. When I was 15 , this never made me question.

Has anyone else come across something that as a younger person it never crossed your mind but now it's a wtf moment

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ufucoffee · 02/05/2021 20:15

I hope people who think Wet Ass Pussy is an ok song now are horrified by it in years to come

WorkHardPlayHard1 · 02/05/2021 20:17

@Bertiebiscuit

All the rolling stones songs - "under my thumb" "brown sugar" - need I say more
Under my thumb song words - just looked them up - total revenge abuse! 😡
JungleIsMassive · 02/05/2021 20:18

Home alone. Not a good film or a classic. They are truley abusive to that boy.

Iseestupidpeople · 02/05/2021 20:18

@Gingefringe

Pretty Woman - it's ok to be a prostitute to bag a milliionaire.
Oldest profession in the world. And as long as done if your own free will it is OK to be a prostitute. In the Netherlands they even pay tax and have health insurance like everyone else.
Gwenhwyfar · 02/05/2021 20:18

"But it's the same/worse now as much as 60s-70s. .... naked attraction?!?"

I don't like full frontal nudity that much, but don't see the problem if other people do. The only problem I can see is that it might be seen as exploitative in future, even though the participants are consenting adults.

even gogglebox which I like had full frontal nudity 'artistic' portrait of the joy of sex...

What's wrong with that though?

WorkHardPlayHard1 · 02/05/2021 20:19

@JonSnowIsALoser

Americal romance novels of the 1970s where a teenage virgin heroine is violently raped by a good-looking hero in his 30s, he marries her under her family's pressure because that's the honourable thing to do, turns out to be a lovely bloke under the rough exterior and they live happily ever after. The reader cheers at how lucky the heroine turned out to be.

The worst thing is that (according to an very enlightening article about this type of literature that I've read recently), at that time rape was the only socially acceptable
way to portray pre-marital sex in that context. If an unmarried heroine actually wanted sex with the hot hero, the intended audience - housewives - would not be able to identify with her and root for her, as they'd perceive her as a despicable loose woman. Or at least that's what publishers thought. Consensual premarital sex was reserved for female villains.

So hey, let's have rape, the acceptable option, instead. Tells you all you need to know how messed up it all was back then.

Wow! 😤
jacketdrama · 02/05/2021 20:22

Sunny Smiles - this was a tiny book of photos which you sold for a penny each to raise money for a children's charity. The photos were all of kids in children's homes, but the awful thing was that people would go through the book and choose the most attractive kids, then it would be hard to sell the ones with glasses or goofy teeth left at the end.

I also knew a girl who went out with a teacher in sixth form. Unless we all went to the same school it mustn't have been unusual.

I went to an extracurricular club run by someone who was later jailed for sexually assaulting boys. Another parent warned my parents that he was dangerous around boys, but they let me go to the club because I was a girl so no need to worry as he'd leave me alone. He did, but that's hardly the point...

And I agree with pps about seventies sitcoms. Whenever I catch an episode of Porridge, Likely Lads, etc the casual sexism is horrible - calling girls 'slags', old men leering at young women, plus racism and homophobia.

3babylady · 02/05/2021 20:25

R Kelly writing and producing Aaliyah's first album at request of her uncle, having a song called Age ain't nothing but a number which he then used as the album title.
At the time of recording she was 13-14 he was 27-28.
He's on the album cover standing behind her and it just creeps me out.
There's a famous interview where they're wearing matching clothes Mickey Mouse outfits.
Even scarier he married her at 15 because she was apparently pregnant to him, her parents were disgusted and furious and forced the separation thankgod.
When she divorced him and she moved label, she wouldn't allow anybody to talk about him and the only thing that's known that she did she was he's a very bad man.
She was let down by everyone around her and he went on to continue his depraved actions until 2019 almost 25 years later.

Joeblack066 · 02/05/2021 20:30

Chicchicchicchiclana
Men in drag. Didn't bother me at all in my drama students days but that was decades ago.
They'd be called Transwomen now, I'd rather they stayed men in drag

Completely different.

Kettledodger · 02/05/2021 20:30

OMG those Rolling Stones songs were written 55 years ago! The world was a different place. They are great songs of their time. I find the sexualisation of more recent songs within the last 5-10 years Anaconda, 34+35, and this weeks number 1 MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) would be more of a worry surely?

SunsetBeetch · 02/05/2021 20:34

OMG those Rolling Stones songs were written 55 years ago! The world was a different place.

Yes, that's the whole point of the thread.

Iseestupidpeople · 02/05/2021 20:36

@idril

Something that makes me uncomfortable now and is still going on is children in year 5 and 6 being made to change in front of each other for PE in primary school.

Girls in my daughter's school who asked were allowed to change in the toilets or somewhere else but my daughter wasn't developed so didn't feel like she could ask but she hated it. One of the boys said "show me your boobies".

I just don't understand why this is not a bigger deal than it is. I raised it with the school and the head agreed with me and purchased screen to put up so they could do half boys and half girls but my daughter's teacher refused to use it and my daughter was terrified of her so wouldn't let me raise it.

I was not born and raised in this island. This would never have flown, now or when it was still a kingdom. Pe is not done in anything resembling underwear. Even if you forgot your kit you would not be allowed to do it in your under wear. And you chose what to wear so leggings were fine when doing a skill requiring no lose fabrics but otherwise joggers would be ok too. This is frankly baffling me. I don’t understand why people feels the need to support the enforcement of such sexist piece of clothing as school uniform?!
Kettledodger · 02/05/2021 20:36

But @SunsetBeetch they should make you feel "uncomfortable"

Kettledodger · 02/05/2021 20:36

*shouldn't

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 02/05/2021 20:39

Have I missed something that 2 become 1 is about sex ... and?? Little mix lyrics anyone? If we are gonna get all clutched pearls about somg lyrics then probably a good 50% songs since the 60s are out

I hate those too, but I'm clearly the only one on this thread who objects to groups/artists with a very high proportion of young children aged 5/6 up among their fans singing songs to them about sex.

Apparently, 12-16yo kids are horny anyway, so it's a good thing that the mainly middle-aged men who produce the pop songs for them and their much younger siblings are making sure their idols sing lots of overtly sexual songs to them - songs that the kids themselves will then learn and sing themselves, often in the presence of adults other than their parents.... Hmm

riceuten · 02/05/2021 20:40

Forced Christianity - being made to pray, sing hymns, and write essays about Jesus despite being an atheist. Neither school I went to was Christian based. It was just how things were in those days. It irks me that parents send their kids to Christian schools when neither they nor the child are Christians. Usually because Church schools have a reputation for being stricter or, more probably, because the religious requirement usually screens out difficult children.

Kettledodger · 02/05/2021 20:45

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll IMO you are overthinking this. I personally was brought up on a mixture of Beatles/ABBA and The Wombles among others. Some of those lyrics were not the best but I'm a fairly average law abiding almost 50 yo Grin

Bessiebigpants · 02/05/2021 20:47

Anyone remember the inappropriate lingerie for little little girls a chain store ran That was not that long ago and thank goodness caused a scandal but seriously why would they even think it was okay!

nopuppiesallowed · 02/05/2021 20:50

@Thants1

I’ve never mentioned this to anyone before but recently started thinking about it and realised that it might not have been what it seemed. When I was a teenager I was sexually active from around 14 and went to the GP to get the pill thinking that would be sensible. He advised that I went on the contraceptive injection so every 3 months I went to see him to get it and he would make me undress my top half so he could feel my breasts to check for lumps. I’ve never heard of anyone having to do this. Would be Interested to hear if anyone has any opinions on it?
Sexually active at 14? Perhaps this is normal, but I look at 14 year old girls and find it horrifying that they should be sexually active at that age.
JenniSequa · 02/05/2021 20:50

Quite mild but I was thinking just yesterday about when in Literature or History class, there'd be discussions about male gentry or soldiers sending love letters in which they passionately instruct the woman not to wash prior to their ecstatic reunion....

TheLODstinkyunderpassAKATits · 02/05/2021 20:53

@RustySpringboard

Bill Wyman marrying Mandy Smith when she was 18 and he was 52 in 1989. The press / media all acting like he was some kind of 'lad' who'd 'done well'. It was also clear he had been in a relationship with her when she was under age. He met her when she was 13. I remember thinking that it was all a bit off , but the whole 'well he's a rock star, isn't he' fawning media attention seemed to over ride everything. I was uncomfortable back then, now I think what he did was utterly appalling.
I'm more with @IcedPurple on this, I remember it being pretty scandalous, marrying someone younger than your children! Was always sure Mandy's mother was a major issue but I read in articles way after the fact that apparently that wasn't the case. It sounded like they just wanted someone to take care of them in a way.

She's only a year older than me and the thought of being with someone that age was revolting!

Theimpossiblegirl · 02/05/2021 20:53

@wantanotherdog
I really don't think that is the thing to focus on with that post. Have a little sensitivity.

nopuppiesallowed · 02/05/2021 20:59

@JaniieJones

'What is wrong with men in drag please?!'

Where to start. They are parodies of women, they are mocking women in the guise of 'entertainment'. It is 100% misogynistic crap, including offensive names such as Miss Carriage. Drag race will surely go the same way as the black and white minstrels when their fans realise what they are supporting.

Yes to this. How can men in drag be acceptable? And men in drag reading stories to preschoolers in a library (I read this fairly recently). Made me feel sick that parents took their children to these story sessions.
CarnationCat · 02/05/2021 21:02

Thought about this earlier. I used to work in a fast food shop as a teenager and a boy who was a few years older than me used to say 'we're going to get raped tonight', meaning we're going to be busy.

JudgeJ · 02/05/2021 21:03

@WhatTimeDoYouCallThis

Naked women in art. The National Gallery has hundreds of years of nicely painted tits. But hey it's okay because it's art.
But what about David in Florence, it's not as one sided as MN likes to pretend!
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