What now makes you uncomfortable that didn't at the time

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As a teenager I like listening to a certain rock band.
Just found their album on iTunes, downloaded and listened.
I was shocked. One of the songs - sung by grown men - ' she's a 13 yr tease , with bleach blonde hair. Let me eat your cookies , let me see your cookies '
Sat in the bath gob smacked. When I was 15 , this never made me question.

Has anyone else come across something that as a younger person it never crossed your mind but now it's a wtf moment

I can't watch Dirty Dancing. Patrick swayze's character seems like he's in his late 30's and baby is like 16?

He's 25, she's 18.

Flake chocolate tv advert. Seeing teenage girl musicians / singers being sexual / wearing their underwear in videos and promos ads etc.

[quote AdriannaP]“Lennon could be a dick”

Well it’s well documented he beat his first wife, was a serial cheater and druggie so I am completely suprised why he is seen as some sort of saint these days. He seems like a deeply unpleasant person who wrote some nice songs.

www.vice.com/en/article/ypa9b5/you-dont-have-to-imagine-john-lennon-beat-women-and-childrenits-just-a-fact[/quote]
Yes, "Lennon could be a dick" is understating it. He had a really nasty streak. He knew that about himself and talked about it.

I don't know why Paul McCartney gets painted as somehow cringe by comparison with the sainted Lennon. Paul is a genius.

Haven't read the whole thread but is their any way 13 could be a reference to something else? I just don't see how anyone in their wildest imagination could see a 13 year old as a "buxom blonde" or "rock queen"!!

But yeah I agree with everything I've seen on the thread so far, our society really normalises and actually glamorises the objectification of women. Gross

When I was in P1, on your birthday the lollipop man outside the gates would come in to the cloakroom and smack your bottom with his lollipop, for how many years old you were.

I didn't like it but darent question it. This was in the mid-70s.

Does anyone else remember the up skirts photos of the Legs and Co. dancers gyrating on Top Of The Pops? It was presented as family entertainment.

"American Beauty - Kevin Spacey pervs over his teenage daughter's school friend."

But he gets his come uppance for that and regrets it.

“Never Mind the Buzzcocks” It was totally male-oriented with the women treated as objects and subjected to some horrible sexist behaviour. I always remember one show where creepster edgelord, Russell Brand touched up this poor girl, grinding her from behind while the other men in the studio guffawed. Just vile.

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

A pupil having an affair with the PE teacher. We knew it was wrong (he was asked to resign) but the consensus was she was sixth form, he was young (and hot) so it was ok.

Looking back, it was grooming. He taught her for several years. And was probably older than we thought.

Sounds like we went to the same school...!

"Frequent use of the word spastic, retard and long, we just didn’t realise at the time."

I don't know what long is, but spastic and retard were the official words in the 80s. They weren't pejorative, but became it with time. Spasticity is till used by doctors according to someone I know whose son has cerebral palsy.

Drinking fizzy drinks as kids. Makes me shudder now.

Using unregulated AOL chat rooms at 12/ 13/14 years old talking to men.

This one isn't long ago but Manny in Modern Family creeps me out. He's supposed to be old before his time but he's girl/woman mad, it's unnecessary imo.

When I was 11, my classmate had a boyfriend who was 19. So sick. And then a 12 year old in my year got pregnant and left to have a baby. A lot of my friends were having sex at 13/14. And this was a fairly nice middle class town.

The gym knickers again, and the naked showering in front of the games teachers. Just awful

"Working as a nurse and having to strip off in front of colleagues before and after my shift to change into/out of uniform or face discipline."

Surely only down to underwear and only with the same sex. And you weren't allowed to use a toilet cubicle if you were particularly shy?
If you got a gym, you also change in front of others most of the time.

Bill Wyman marrying Mandy Smith when she was 18 and he was 52 in 1989. The press / media all acting like he was some kind of 'lad' who'd 'done well'. It was also clear he had been in a relationship with her when she was under age. He met her when she was 13.

I remember thinking that it was all a bit off , but the whole 'well he's a rock star, isn't he' fawning media attention seemed to over ride everything. I was uncomfortable back then, now I think what he did was utterly appalling.

@Gwenhwyfar

"Frequent use of the word spastic, retard and long, we just didn’t realise at the time."

I don't know what long is, but spastic and retard were the official words in the 80s. They weren't pejorative, but became it with time. Spasticity is till used by doctors according to someone I know whose son has cerebral palsy.

long ,is Mong I think I have a child with severe autism and learning disabilities,"Retarded ,"in its official sense just must slow in development,it's when people use terms as an insult it becomes offensive.

@RustySpringboard

Bill Wyman marrying Mandy Smith when she was 18 and he was 52 in 1989. The press / media all acting like he was some kind of 'lad' who'd 'done well'. It was also clear he had been in a relationship with her when she was under age. He met her when she was 13. I remember thinking that it was all a bit off , but the whole 'well he's a rock star, isn't he' fawning media attention seemed to over ride everything. I was uncomfortable back then, now I think what he did was utterly appalling.

My memories of that are a bit different. I remember it being a big scandal and most people found it disgusting.

"Frequent use of the word spastic, retard and long, we just didn’t realise at the time."

I was injured in an accident and in a full leg calliper for some time. I assure you that the children and adults who yelled "Spastic" at me in the street knew that they were expressing contempt and disrespect - they weren't making spontaneous observations for no good reason.

Songs tell stories. They don't always have to be positive stories, they don't necessarily reflect the views, experience or aspirations of the artists. They talk about life. The Police sing about a stalker - the lyrics aren't promoting it as a good thing, they are relating how it might be to be that person. It comes across as creepy. It's supposed to.
I think that songs that explicitly tell us that the singer is lusting after an under-age child are something else of course! but some of this putting lyrics under scrutiny is madness to me.
Do we want to live in a sanitised world where nobody is allowed to write a work of fiction (song or book or poem etc) that reflects a seedy, but real, aspect of life? It's wrong to murder people, but crime thriller writers aren't to be condemned as prospective murderers are they? Or their books burned because they portray situations that are illegal, cruel or otherwise unacceptable.
Somehow we need to stop this constant looking for wrong where it was never intended. We're heading for ridiculous censorship resulting in the loss of classics and the narrowing of our views of life. As an example - Go and read the Bryan Adams lyrics for Summer of 69. It's a man looking back on happy times in his youth. His first guitar. How he and friends formed a band. It didn't work. First love. "Those were the best days of my life". No abuse, no under-age lust, just life as it's experienced.
While we look backward we somehow don't manage to deal with the vile stuff that surrounds us now. Listen to some current lyrics. The ones being picked over here pale into insignificance.

@SpringtimeSummertime

Not to mention that awful film where John Cleese plays a headteacher who runs around with a 6th former... What’s it called.

Clockwise?

The “remedial class” and the “remedial teacher”. Where the kids with additional support needs were basically marched out of regular classes and into maths and English with the remedial teacher. In fact ASN support in general. It’s hardly amazing now but when I think back to my schooldays and the way children who clearly needed additional support were treated it is horrifying.

The way "gay" was used as a derogatory term for everything. If it was bad it was "gay" or if you were an idiot you were a "gaylord" (this was at least 25 years ago and I was probably only 7 or 8 at the time).

@IcedPurple - that's interesting. I just remember all the photos of the wedding in the press like it was all a big congratulatory event. Yes, - later Mandy made it clear she had been a child who was manipulated. I remember she developed anorexia after the wedding.

Where the kids with additional support needs were basically marched out of regular classes and into maths and English with the remedial teacher.

In my infant school they didn't even have a classroom! Their classes were held in the corridor - My blood runs cold when I think of all the children with dyslexia or SLD who spent their education without any form of recognition or support and the ridicule to which they were subjected.

@RedcurrantPuff

The “remedial class” and the “remedial teacher”. Where the kids with additional support needs were basically marched out of regular classes and into maths and English with the remedial teacher. In fact ASN support in general. It’s hardly amazing now but when I think back to my schooldays and the way children who clearly needed additional support were treated it is horrifying.

My son goes to a special school,but I have heard some horror stories of how some children with SEN are treated in some mainstream schools now .