What now makes you uncomfortable that didn't at the time

[drinkingwineoutofamug]

As a teenager I like listening to a certain rock band.
Just found their album on iTunes, downloaded and listened.
I was shocked. One of the songs - sung by grown men - ' she's a 13 yr tease , with bleach blonde hair. Let me eat your cookies , let me see your cookies '
Sat in the bath gob smacked. When I was 15 , this never made me question.

Has anyone else come across something that as a younger person it never crossed your mind but now it's a wtf moment

Still working through the thread, so I'm sure this has already been mentioned but for me it's Twilight.

It was all the rage whilst I was at 6th form, and we all thought it was soooo romantic.

Except it's the story of a 118 year old man grooming a 16 year old girl whilst his equally old family hang out year after year pretending to be high school students.

Yes it’s true about Steve Tyler, he wrote about it in his autobiography. There was a house fire, she almost died and was pressured into a late term abortion whilst being treated for smoke inhalation.

However she’s now a raging pro life advocate and her story is all over anti abortion movement websites.

Grease is absolutely foul.

@LadyPoison

@ drinkingwineoutofamug

No the one by Brian adams , the other guy. About a girl he didn't know her name, but it was a night to remember

Do you mean December 1963 by the Four Seasons?

Apologies yes, just something about that song that gives me the ick

@Tangofandango

drinkingwineoutofamug

No the one by Brian adams , the other guy.
About a girl he didn't know her name, but it was a night to remember*

You mean the Four Seasons December 1963

There's nothing wrong with that song. It's about a consensual one night stand, no implication of abuse or anyone being too young. I'm a bit confused why someone would object to it. (Unless they object to casual sex full stop?)

I agree with a lot of these, but I think someone missed the point upthread re: the Father Ted "lovely girls" competition. The whole point of that episode is that he is a sexist patronising twat, and that the concept of the competition is ridiculous. The joke's on him.

Father Ted isn't meant to be an aspirational character, he's deeply flawed. Greedy, ambitious (but lacking any real talent), sexist, boastful, bitter etc. Just look at the relationship with Mrs Doyle.

@babbaloushka

Even the differences in marking of Olympic Gymnastics floor routines is vastly different, they are expected to smile and pose and look entertaining. The way Simone Biles propels herself to 3 times her own heigh and then has to smile is a glaring disparity between how the males are expected to compete, on pure skill and ability.

I have always thought the leotards the female gymnastics wear are for the male gaze even when young. However I never questioned the expectation that they smile until now. I was an avid fan of gymnastics as a child and remember how Nadia Comăneci didn't get the gold medal until she smiled and given the abuse she was probably on the end of...

@NoProblem123

What was wrong with Chris Evans & Billie Piper ? Big age gap but weren’t they both adults ?

Yes they were. And they have both acknowledged that they saved each other with their relationship. If she isn’t uncomfortable with it, we certainly shouldn’t be.

Also 'Where do you go my lovely' by Peter Sarstedt. What a creep! He obsesses over this woman, and thinks he can see inside her head ("when she's alone in her bed") because he knew her years ago. I have known too many men like this who think they own a woman forever just because they used to know you or something. Ugh.

No he knew her as a child, they were poor children together. That’s where she goes to when she is done pretending otherwise all day, and that’s what he means. He was not a previous romantic partner thinking he owns her. The lyrics explain it all clearly.

Re: Bobby Womack- I've just Googled and apparently he sexually abused his step daughter! Not only that, but he wrote about it in his autobiography!

Fucking hell. Why is this not more public knowledge? Why all the glowing eulogies when he died?

He married Sam Cooke's widow Barbara, and then used to sneak into Sam Cooke's daughter's room to have sex with her. Barbara divorced him and tried to shoot him (good for her!).

No he knew her as a child, they were poor children together. That’s where she goes to when she is done pretending otherwise all day, and that’s what he means. He was not a previous romantic partner thinking he owns her. The lyrics explain it all clearly.

I understand the lyrics perfectly. But this guy doesn't know her any more. How does he know she is pretending to be anything she isn't? His only knowledge of her current life is through the newspapers. She is just living her life and may well be open about her background with her friends. He appears to be offended that she's moved on in life and he hasn't. He's a creep.

I mean, lyrics like: "I can see inside your head"

No he fucking can't!

BeenasFar - Barbara Cookes daughter, Linda then went on to marry Cecil Womack, brother of Bobby. Which still astounds me today.

I think When I Kissed the Teacher is a sweet song - I interpret it as gently making fun of teenage girls who get crushes on their teachers, and the lyrics as an innocent daydream/fantasy of the narrator's. I don't think ABBA were condoning real teacher-pupil relationships!

Henio I knew of the PE teacher and knew his his subsequent age appropriate partner and fellow teachervery well, early 90's.. Cardinal Newman, South Wales. Absolutely dreadful,no one batted an eyelid at the time. And he was horrible.

I agree with PP on Twilight. I read and loved the books (though I was in my mid twenties at the time) then looked back a few years later and hated them. They normalise domestic violence (the main werewolf hurting his girlfriend because he lost control), giving up your identity and normal relationships with others for a man, obsessive behaviour, physical pain being fine if you end up with the 'man of your dreams', the idea that you make a choice at 18 and that's it for life

Anyone else completely about the lyrics to 2 become 1 being 'absolute filth'?

There's also absolutely nothing in Summer of 69 to get excited about.

Swimming lessons at school. I used to love swimming until they split the clsss in 2, boys watching on the side whilst the girls went it. Hideous

December 1983 is a fantastic song!!!!!!

1963 oops

I watched Basic Instinct yesterday - that has not held up well either. Horrendous dialogue, just sleazy and grubby throughout. The creepy look on Michael Douglas face when he’s voyuering on Sharon Stone 🤮🤮

@Gladimnotcampinginthisweather

Babysitting circles. Very popular in the 70s and 80s. A group of friends would set up a babysitting circle. You could ask anyone in the circle to babysit and payment was in tokens so no money changed hands. When you ran out of tokens you had to babysit to build up credit. Sounds ok, but you had to be introduced by a member of the group to join. This meant that other members of the group, other than your friend, might not know you, and yet you would be babysitting their children for hours at a time. Mostly the women did the sitting, but sometimes the men did. There was no DBS then, and quite often the members of the group just knew each other from the school gate and weren't friends as such. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but in hindsight I can't imagine doing it now.

Times change though, my mum and Dad were in a baby sitting circle in the 70,s nobody was DBS checked in those days as it didn't exist ,we lived in a village where everyone knew everyone else ,my parents attended a very active Catholic church,that had play groups,Brownies,Guides etc and all the kids went to the same school,of course there was the potential for abuse but there could be in any situation,.

@LesterKnopf

I agree with PP on Twilight. I read and loved the books (though I was in my mid twenties at the time) then looked back a few years later and hated them. They normalise domestic violence (the main werewolf hurting his girlfriend because he lost control), giving up your identity and normal relationships with others for a man, obsessive behaviour, physical pain being fine if you end up with the 'man of your dreams', the idea that you make a choice at 18 and that's it for life

And then it gets taken and span off into an even WORSE romanticism of abuse and control (50 Shades). And this was in the last decade

Mini pops. A programme in the 80s where they dressed up very young children as pop stars and had them acting out songs. It invariably involved 6 year old girls dressed in next to nothing, made up to the nines, belting out “like a virgin” and dancing provocatively.

Similar thing with pageants.

PP mentioned gymnastics and I have a similar issue with girls in dance troupes. Apparently it is vital they have lots of make up and skimpy clothes, and yet boys in the same troupe don’t need the same. I was looking for leggings for DD and there were some where I could have her name printed across her arse. When I raised it as an issue, plenty here said it was fine because it was a dance thing. It was fine. That young girls were wearing clothes that were designed to have people look at their arse. And that I was the one with the problem if I thought that was wrong.

@Heronatemygoldfish

A lot of the songs by The Police are creepy as hell. Every breath you take... I'll be watching you...

It's supposed to be about a stalker though .

Toddlers and Tiaras
Dance Moms
America's Next Top Model - I went down a bit of a YouTube rabbit hole once and it really opened my eyes to how toxic and damaging the show was. I used to love it as a teen and thought nothing of it.