The Labour Party emerged from the trade union movement to represent the economic interests of working people in Parliament. Now, it represents the cultural & ideological attitudes of an unrepresentative ‘woke’ middle-class metropolitan sect
I agree with this but I don't think it's a recent development it goes back to mid 90's and Blair etc
@MrsPeacockInTheLibrary I'm in Scotland, for the first time in my life I am seriously considering not voting. Will never vote Tory, Labour have long abandoned their traditional voters (working class, not woke!), SNP are being fuckwits on twaw, women's rights generally, Lib Dem's a combo of twaw and Tory lite with an appalling set of policies and voting record, I have literally no idea who to vote for!
I genuinely believe if Labour had the balls to come out as the anti-Brexit party when it would've made a bloody difference they could well have had a victory, they seemed to forget that the majority of those eligible to vote DIDN'T vote for Brexit and from a purely pragmatic point of view it was stupid not to capitalise on that. Yes previous Labour voters who were pro Brexit may have shifted to Tory but I strongly believe they'd have not only retained those who vote Labour and were anti Brexit but would have had a lot of people who were anti Brexit and either floating voters (like myself) or even normally Tory voters but strongly anti Brexit voting for them. They definitely missed a trick there from pure cowardice!
Unfortunately, this applies to all but right wing parties.
See this said SO MUCH on mn and it's just not true. Why do you think all this nonsense is happening while we have tories ruling? They started it all, and Lib Dem's (previously more centrist now most definitely to the right of centre) are also vehemently twaw its bloody all of them!
Keir absolutely needs to get off the fucking fence! The man has so many splinters up his arse he's practically turned into a tree!
They need to have people from genuine working class roots in not only the party but most especially the shadow cabinet/government level. Shocking how many of them have never done an honest days graft in their lives!
They need to get the papers on their side. It's the only way they will get anywhere. Policies etc don't really matter, it's all about the media.
Never had and never will happen because the papers are owned by wealthy, right wing people. The only time they came close was during Blair's first election campaign but that was because they correctly ascertained that new Labour was Tory lite
or for Mr Johnson to fuck up before the election Johnson has fucked up MANY times - sex scandals, Dv suspicion, corruption... all things that would previously have ended an MP's let alone a PM's career! He's fucking Teflon cos idiots buy that "bumbling Bozo boris" crap! Hell even priti Patel has got away with shit Mps pre say 2000 would NEVER have got away with and not been deselected! They're brazenly corrupt and they don't care.
My snp Mp is a good, sensible down to earth man who's done a lot of good here, but as a party they're a bloody mess!
I was never a huge TB fan and wish that John Smith hadn't died
Best PM we never had 
my ex whom I had just met when this happened and was politically illiterate at this point was shocked at my tearful reaction, when he became more politically literate much later he understood it better.
Like many on the thread I think we need a new social Democratic Party that truly represents the working class and the genuinely oppressed people of this country - not privileged people who've "identified" themselves into an oppressed class. Who will address the real problems real people are having on a daily basis with health and social care, education, law and order, transport etc - not holding my breath though