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Manager wants us to have in-person meetings of 15 from next week

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Wilker · 05/04/2021 01:32

As in the title really... Apparently we are going to be having in person indoor meetings of 15 people from April 12th, and 30 people from May 17th.

Absolutely no business need for these meetings to be happening in person. We are all admin/office staff and have been working fine from home.

I wanted to check whether they are even legal? Aren’t the 15/30 people gatherings permitted for weddings only?

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saraclara · 07/04/2021 15:40

This sounds unusual teaching all day long every day.

And there we have it. The perfect example of someone thinking they know what teaching is like.
I taught for 40 years, now recently retired. I have always taught for the whole day (until the govt brought in PPA which gave me two hours a week non teaching time.

OverTheRainbow88 · 07/04/2021 17:39

@saraclara

And now In academies those 2 PPAs a week are used for ‘emergency cover’ !!

Missushbb · 07/04/2021 19:11

@HercwasanEnemyofEducation

This sounds unusual teaching all day long every day.

Have you ever heard of school? Literally what happens all day every day.

I wasn't referring to school, the poster who said she was teaching all day every day was referring to teaching adults. So in a college or university I surmised. As far as I'm aware adults aren't getting taught in schools
Missushbb · 07/04/2021 19:13

@saraclara

This sounds unusual teaching all day long every day.

And there we have it. The perfect example of someone thinking they know what teaching is like.
I taught for 40 years, now recently retired. I have always taught for the whole day (until the govt brought in PPA which gave me two hours a week non teaching time.

The person I replied to said they taught adults all day. So obviously not schools. As usual, posters are obsessed with schools and how hard teachers have it!
Missushbb · 07/04/2021 19:14

@SpringtimeSummertime

This sounds unusual teaching all day long every day.

Are you joking? Most days are full. 5 hrs PPA a fortnight.

Nope not joking. If you had read the thread properly you would have saw the person I was replying to said she taught adults.
HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 07/04/2021 19:54

Teaching adults at college is a full time job though! No different to school. Sixth forms are fu of classes of adults too.

ChloeDecker · 07/04/2021 20:03

Absolutely Herc! And don’t forget Herc that plenty of adult learning often involves vulnerable people in learning centres, in full time education still, who’s daily structure is still very much like a school day and needs to support and interaction just like any other teacher, as opposed to a lecturer at university. Often more so, with some who have sever learning needs. Turning 18 doesn’t just switch off any SEND. All of this involves needing to be in close contact but with adults so often riskier and in buildings also not conducive to ventilation and distancing.

saraclara · 07/04/2021 20:16

Interestingly, since I posted on here last time, I've been talking to a relative whose adult offspring (mid 30s, so not daft kids) and their friends are WFH. She was telling me the tricks they use to look like they're online when they're not, and what they've been up to (landscaping gardens, fitting new kitchens) when they're supposed to be working.

They might well be the minority, who knows? But managers will I'm sure have heard these stories, so who can blame them for wanting people in the office again?

If those conscientious people who would like to continue to WFH want to get angry with anyone, maybe it should be this sort of colleague rather than their bosses.

ParadiseIsland · 07/04/2021 21:30

@saraclara

Interestingly, since I posted on here last time, I've been talking to a relative whose adult offspring (mid 30s, so not daft kids) and their friends are WFH. She was telling me the tricks they use to look like they're online when they're not, and what they've been up to (landscaping gardens, fitting new kitchens) when they're supposed to be working.

They might well be the minority, who knows? But managers will I'm sure have heard these stories, so who can blame them for wanting people in the office again?

If those conscientious people who would like to continue to WFH want to get angry with anyone, maybe it should be this sort of colleague rather than their bosses.

I suspect their boss will know very well that they are not working as they should because work isn’t getting done.

And if all of it IS done then said company has an issue tbh!

Having said that, I’ve seen how much dh works at home. And for the first 9 month, I would have gladly exchanged my part time job for his ‘full time’ job.... amazing to realise how easy he has it.
And he is conscientious too (so he IS sat at his desk for the day) !

converseandjeans · 07/04/2021 23:38

Having said that, I’ve seen how much dh works at home. And for the first 9 month, I would have gladly exchanged my part time job for his ‘full time’ job.... amazing to realise how easy he has it.
And he is conscientious too (so he IS sat at his desk for the day)

I imagine a lot of workers will be found out - in that they don't work as hard as they tell their partners. So the excuses for not helping with household tasks will seem a bit lame. I also think a lot of SAHM are finding it hard as they suddenly have a partner home who can see what they do (or don't do) all day. So they feel like they need to keep busy doing more chores.

GeronimoHate · 08/04/2021 05:47

@converseandjeans

Having said that, I’ve seen how much dh works at home. And for the first 9 month, I would have gladly exchanged my part time job for his ‘full time’ job.... amazing to realise how easy he has it. And he is conscientious too (so he IS sat at his desk for the day)

I imagine a lot of workers will be found out - in that they don't work as hard as they tell their partners. So the excuses for not helping with household tasks will seem a bit lame. I also think a lot of SAHM are finding it hard as they suddenly have a partner home who can see what they do (or don't do) all day. So they feel like they need to keep busy doing more chores.

Whilst I was a SaHm I never felt I had to justify myself to Dh when he had 6 months gardening leave, I don’t ever recall worrying about what he would think I did all day! People said he’d drive me mad and get under my feet - he didn’t - no one said I’d be found out Hmm
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