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Why is Cressida Dick twisting herself into a pretzel to defend Kate Middleton

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Mummy195 · 31/03/2021 11:22

Either she attended a legal vigil or she did not.

Either she went as part of work or she went in a private capacity as the palace have claimed.

She was in close proximity to other people without a mask, so she could be identified, during a time when we were supposed to work from home.

One thing for sure, she was never manhandled by the police

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MichelleScarn · 31/03/2021 15:24

The locals are upset because the other women were treated differently. Why it was just illegal for them
Given there was a lot of women there, which women are you meaning? I didn't see any arrests happening at the time the DoC was there.
Are you meaning some of the 'professional agitators' ( a new term I've learned recently!)

SoupDragon · 31/03/2021 15:27

The locals are upset because the other women were treated differently. Why it was just illegal for them

Probably because they didn't just wander in without a fuss, leave some flowers and then depart.

jessstan2 · 31/03/2021 15:40

I don't particularly care but it is good that the Duchess attended the vigil even if only briefly. There's no need to defend her, she made a decision and stuck to it. If she caught Covid as a result of that, I'm sure she will recover. She wasn't likely to have spread it.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

ismiseeire · 31/03/2021 16:19

The other women failed to disperse when instructed to do so by police.
As soupdragon stated, KM, walked through the park, laid her flowers, paused for a few moments, then left.

ismiseeire · 31/03/2021 16:20

The illegal event was the vigil.

Paying your respects earlier in the day was not illegal. The park was not closed with KM breaking through a police cordon to get in with her daffodils. The park was open.

Mummy195 · 31/03/2021 16:22

I would hardly call charity workers 'professional agitators'.

If you went to lay flowers, you would have been definitely been very close to other people.

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ismiseeire · 31/03/2021 16:24

I presume you wear your mask at all times Mummy.

Theunamedcat · 31/03/2021 16:30

There WAS NO all day vigil people left flowers at the scene of a crime which often happens this was not an official visit the Palace has already confirmed it the press were there because they were reporting about a crime

Nothing to do with meghan nothing to do with everyone else just showing respect for the dead

Unlike some

Mummyoflittledragon · 31/03/2021 16:36

And you are also a KM fan who also hates MM 😂 😂 cos I’m the one, starting nasty threads and defending the indefensible. Go on search under my username for comments about Kate... and find absolutely nothing. Bit weird that, seeing as I’m some sort of fan lol. As for hating Meghan, you appear to be struggling to understand the difference between hate, disgust and disappointment. My 12 yo has the same problem. But there again she’s 12.

MummyJ12 · 31/03/2021 16:39

@Mummy195

It was not members of the public, it was a Sky News reporter !
You seem to be wrong on this. Sky news reported on it but using images taken by the public. The palace statement insists that there was no official footage taken.
GoLightlyontheEarth · 31/03/2021 16:40

@Mummy195

I and some posters have correctly pointed out the disparity in the treatment of both women. But, let's put MM aside.

I don't live far from the area, and we were told about an all day vigil with speakers coming in from around 6. KM was not taking a stroll and happened on the vigil.

The locals are upset because the other women were treated differently. Why it was just illegal for them.

Happened on the vigil? What? She was not there at the same time as the gathering in the evening which resulted in Police action. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill.
Mummy195 · 31/03/2021 16:47

It was a Sky reporter, he claimed he took it by chance as he was 'off duty'.

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GCAcademic · 31/03/2021 16:58

@Mummy195

It was a Sky reporter, he claimed he took it by chance as he was 'off duty'.
OMG. “Off duty”, you say? In inverted commas? Wow, that’s, like, conclusive evidence that the Duchess of Cambridge is a Really Bad Person. What can we do about this? A petition? Boycott her Instagram? Burn our Breton tops? I mean, there has to be consequences for this sort of hateful behaviour, it’s just so upsetting that someone can behave like this. Thank you so much for raising awareness about this, hun.
Anon778833 · 31/03/2021 17:03

The usual royal brown-nosers are out in force as per I see....🙄

SquirmOfEels · 31/03/2021 17:07

The locals are upset because the other women were treated differently. Why it was just illegal for them

Not all locals are upset - other than by those who hijacked the event and utterly changed its character in a couple of hours from about 6:30 onwards. Those who refused to disperse made enforced dispersal inevitable.

Commemorative events were not dispersed. The rowdy protest was

KM was there during the afternoon, when no-one needed to be moved on, even though there were a few hundred people there, coming and going all day (and Sunday, and several other days)

SquirmOfEels · 31/03/2021 17:10

There WAS NO all day vigil people left flowers at the scene of a crime which often happens this was not an official visit the Palace has already confirmed it the press were there because they were reporting about a crime

Point of detail, the bandstand was not the scene of the crime. The exact location of the crime has not been disclosed, but last sightings were in the region of Poynders Court (the area searched on the day thebpolice closed the A295 south circular) and there were also flowers laid there (and no police action at all)

FaceyRomford · 31/03/2021 17:11

If anything is being twisted it's your view of the Commissioner's straightforward statement.

AwaAnBileYerHeid · 31/03/2021 17:36

Sad.

ChristinaYang10 · 31/03/2021 19:17

The locals are upset because the other women were treated differently. Why it was just illegal for them.

But she wasn’t treated differently to women there at the same time as her, doing the same thing. In the footage of her there, the background wasn’t full of police arresting women while letting her wander freely. Plenty of women who came in the afternoon, laid flowers, and then left were treated in exactly the same way as KM.
How the police handled the evening is a totally different debate.

MummyJ12 · 31/03/2021 19:49

@SugarbabyMilly

The usual royal brown-nosers are out in force as per I see....🙄
You sound like a high school bully. This isn’t exactly a constructive, balanced post which adds to the conversation. As much as some of us on here don’t agree, I still have a huge amount of respect for them and their opinions......
ismiseeire · 31/03/2021 20:02

They were three different situations OP.

A. People walking in and laying flowers and paying their respects during the day. KM went there at that time.
B. A peaceful vigil (ruled illegal, but police allowed it to carry on using discretion)
C. People refusing to disperse and getting angry with the police after the vigil when the police asked them to disperse

Nobody in situations A or B were attacked/arrested by police. Some women in situation C were arrested.

KM was treated no differently to any other woman there at the same time as her.

Stop stirring shit.

Binglebong · 31/03/2021 20:09

I read the statement as the commissioner saying " We had police letting things happen while we could, we only intervened when we had to". The duchess was being used as an example so it was really a defence of the police tactics, not of her.

Anon778833 · 31/03/2021 20:19

@MummyJ12 oh ok, well if you think I’m bullying then report my post to MNHQ.

Sorry the truth hurts.

HeartsAndClubs · 31/03/2021 20:23

Why is this thread still here? Quite apart from the fact that it’s full of potentially libellous speculation (newsflash, twitter isn’t considered to be an accurate source of reporting,) the whole tone of the OP and her subsequent posts is just vile.

MummyJ12 · 31/03/2021 20:27

[quote SugarbabyMilly]@MummyJ12 oh ok, well if you think I’m bullying then report my post to MNHQ.

Sorry the truth hurts.[/quote]
I believe in freedom of speech and I’d rather that people see your contribution for what it is. It doesn’t offend me at all so why would I report it. I am not cancel culture central.