My baby is trying to kill me

[ChattyMc]

They have to sleep at some point right??? I keep telling myself this. Just a little but longer and then he HAS to fall asleep.

But he's still looking up at me wide eyed and screaming if I have the audacity to try and put him down.

We went for a drive, and he snored peacefully in his car seat until we stopped at which point when he just resumed said awakeness.

Have now resigned myself to the fact that he may actually be trying to finish me. I'm not sure of his motives yet.

I co slept with mine as neither would sleep alone, the good news is by 6 or 7 (years) they decided not to share anymore (actually dd1 gave up younger but dd2 was a persistent bed sharer!)

@Laurapb88

My baby did not sleep for 4 months no matter what we tried it turned out that he was allergic to cows milk it took so long to figure out because he wasn't sick and had no rash once he was on prescription milk it made the world of difference he still can get bad reflux but no where near as bad as when he was on cows milk maybe try the soya milk xx

If your child has cmpa you should avoid soy protein too, as they are very similar and can trigger second allergy. This happened to dd1, she was only on soy based for 4 weeks, but it triggered a soy protein allergy, and took far longer to get over it all than it should have if she had been prescribed the correct formula in the first place. Prescription amino acid based formula is what you need. I made sure gp prescribed the right type of formula when dd2 started showing same symptoms. Dd1 took 10 years to start to tolerate dairy and soy, and is still struggling with ice cream. Dd2 could eat anything she wanted by the time she was 3.

@Ilovemaisie

Mine liked her bouncy chair to sleep in. My health visitor said that was fine.

That actually isn't, for any length & your health visitor was very misguided.

There's a risk of baby's head falling forward & not being able to breathe properly.

If it's a short period & you're right in front of them that's ok, but not really sustainable.

Sleeping in the car suggests your baby likes the noise and movement/vibrations. You could try white noise and pushing in the pram. I also got a Rockit which shuggles the pram for you for 15/20 minutes. I do remember one or two night where I lay next to the pram and just had to keep pressing the button for ages so it kept rocking. Re the white noise, I used a YouTube video which was just white noise (check for no ads). Also, think how loud it really is in a car, don’t have the white noise on too quietly.

I would also recommend swaddling and dummy in if he’ll take one.

Poor you. No advice as I remember those days well... I thought babies were supposed to sleep
All the time?? Lots of cuddles, it eventually passes. My DC is 2 and is now an ok sleeper but the first year was torture!

All mine had colic and reflux. I learnt a winding trick. I found a video showing it. It worked wonders on mine. The only thing I did different was I rotated them 3 times then rotated them in the opposite direction once. Sometimes you still need to pat their back but it’s amazing.

offspring.lifehacker.com/try-this-circle-method-to-get-your-baby-to-burp-1820300477

Also we held them in the upright position for 20mins after every feed for the milk to settle in their tummy before attempting to put down.

Lastly and this is apparently a no no in the uk but we used sleep wedges with our first 2 so they slept on their sides. Had my first 2 over seas where the sleep wedges were widely available. I bought one off Amazon for my 3rd but she didn’t like it. For her we used a wedge under her mattress to slightly raise her head.

Good luck xx

Best thing I bought was one of those seat swings, it was amazing for my son who was the same ! Obviously can’t leave them in it for hours but certainly settled him !

Have you checked his temperature. My little one cried and cried and I was told it was reflux/colic etc but he in fact had a UTI. I didn’t know until that point that a thermometer was a must until that point.. was never told lol.

I doubt your baby is deliberately trying to kill you, op :-).

It's not unusual to feel half dead when you have a young baby. This will pass.

moochingtothepub Sun 28-Mar-21 11:11:06
I co slept with mine as neither would sleep alone
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Mine too, it was nice and we all slept well.

My 18yr old non sleeping, terribly windy, refusaing to burp eldest is mooching round the kitchen looking for food currently.

The only way I could get her to burp (instead of farting like a warthog) was to burp her over my arm. Apparently it is called tiger in the tree hold but it worked wonders with her. Got her to go to sleep in this position by rocking her in this position as well, once she went off we just flipped her into the cot/moses basket - gently not like a pancake tho.

Mine turned out to be lactose intolerant with exactly those symptoms.

Unfortunately, we only found that out when she was 14. If I'd known that when she was screaming her head off constantly for hours on end, sleeping for 20minutes and then resuming the screaming, I'd have cut out all dairy for myself and then switched to non dairy milk/foods and actually slept myself. it would probably have saved the parents' relationship as well

Earrings the bouncer was perfectly safe. It could lay as flat as a pram/pushchair. It was flatter than a car seat.

Earrings it was this type of one and could actually go flatter than this picture. How is that worse than sleeping in a pushchair?

The key to co-sleeping is two duvets! One for you and one for DH. Put the duvet over yourself with your arms out, then put the baby in their sleeping bag on top of your duvet. You might need a warm pj top so your arms don’t get cold. I didn’t co-sleep with DD until she was about 8 months old - until then I carefully spent hours trying to put her in the Moses basket/cot. I didn’t have the confidence to keep her in my bed. However, once she was older and bigger and I’d got used to having her in the bed, when DS came along he was in the bed from night 1! I couldn’t manage the broken sleep with two of them, and he slept really well next to me.

It’s brutal when you have a sleep refusenik. Have you experimented with different white noise? If not maybe give something else a try. Washing machine /aeroplane have both helped here and is often left on all night.

What is happening in the day? Is he able to stay asleep for naps or does he not nap either?

I feel your pain. I don’t think anything could prepare you for life with a baby who is a poor sleeper. It will get better which I know is absolutely no comfort right now when you are probably at the mildly hallucinating stage of sleep deprivation 💐☕️

@Ilovemaisie

Earrings the bouncer was perfectly safe. It could lay as flat as a pram/pushchair. It was flatter than a car seat.

I've looked at the photo & don't see how it could go completely flat. If it could, then fine of course.

Car seats aren't ideal for sleeping either, but of course children fall asleep in cars while driving, just need to make sure they are checked regularly.

My comment was based on what I understood a bouncer to be, based on my own experience. But even that photo doesn't look totally flat, tho I know you say it can be.

Earrings it wasn't that particular bouncer. It was a different one (I can't find a picture of it). I think it was Mammas and Pappas brand. It could be made flat or sitting up through both flipping the stand bit over and moving the seat up and down. It went as flat as a from birth pushchair did.

Earrings it was probably our most used piece of baby equipment second to the pushchair.

My son was like this, he has CMPA and soy allergy. He was vastly improved once on neocate.

@Flappityflippers1

My son was like this, he has CMPA and soy allergy. He was vastly improved once on neocate.

I suggested this to the doctor but they won't have it!

He has another appointment tomorrow so I'm going to push this again.

I know what you mean re sleeping with a cover.

When my baby was a newborn I'd wear a onesie - not a cover, but snug enough. Then I used a light blanket, but tucked it under me.

In the winter I reverted to a duvet, but I only had enough over me to cover me and I tucked the top corner behind my head away from my DD so none of it could reach her.

I've relented and brought him to my Mums. Now going to sleep upstairs whilst he pretends to be a little angel for his Grandma downstairs 🤦‍♀️ night all!

I suggested this to the doctor but they won't have it!
@ChattyMc if you don't get a anywhere with the doctor you can get hypoallergenic sma from boots, it's not as good as prescription milk but it's affordable and helps somewhat.
But you will need to push gp, perhaps ask for a referral to a pediatric dietitian.

my silent reflux baby would only sleep on my chest for ages, and then the crook of my arm. I was breastfeeding though, which makes you sleep lighter. Only way we would get any sleep.