My baby is trying to kill me

[ChattyMc]

They have to sleep at some point right??? I keep telling myself this. Just a little but longer and then he HAS to fall asleep.

But he's still looking up at me wide eyed and screaming if I have the audacity to try and put him down.

We went for a drive, and he snored peacefully in his car seat until we stopped at which point when he just resumed said awakeness.

Have now resigned myself to the fact that he may actually be trying to finish me. I'm not sure of his motives yet.

Co sleeping is the most natural thing in the world and unless you’re very fat or drunk it’s completely safe.

Have you considered CMPA?

You didn't say how old but I had one like this and my mother said he's hungry , give him some baby porridge . This was a long time ago . He was 9 weeks. He slept through that night .He was a big boy and literally hungry .

Orangejuicer its fine to cosleep as long as you use baby covers for baby or both of you use baby appropriate covers

Ds has been slowly trying to finish me off for 3 years. He's clever with it too. He'll lure me in with a couple of full nights sleep then just at the point where I'm thinking yes we've cracked it he'll go back to repeatedly waking and not settling without someone there. It's a masterclass in Psychological warfare

Also the lullaby trust. Do not reccomend sleepy heads.

Have you considered cow's milk protein allergy? Neocate formula was a game changer for us.

Co sleeping is often suggested on here but I must admit I’ve never understood the difference between safe co sleeping and baby in a next to me crib. Might be missing something.
If your baby will sleep more than 2 minutes in a next to me crib then that’s great isn’t it? Neither of mine ever managed it. I don’t think it feels remotely like co-sleeping for the baby, they want to be actually in your bed, touching you and feeling safe.

Mine liked her bouncy chair to sleep in. My health visitor said that was fine.

@zigaziga

Co sleeping is often suggested on here but I must admit I’ve never understood the difference between safe co sleeping and baby in a next to me crib. Might be missing something. If your baby will sleep more than 2 minutes in a next to me crib then that’s great isn’t it? Neither of mine ever managed it. I don’t think it feels remotely like co-sleeping for the baby, they want to be actually in your bed, touching you and feeling safe.

There is no criticism of anybody’s choice. I would happily co sleep if it got me/us more sleep. I just honestly don’t know what the difference is. If it’s that someone is holding/cradling baby then that’s fine, that’s the difference, but it isn’t recommended (and like I say that’s not intended critically, we use a Sleepyhead even though I know you aren’t really supposed to!)

skin to skin?

@SeaShoreGalore

Co sleeping is the most natural thing in the world and unless you’re very fat or drunk it’s completely safe.

There is often confusion between 'co sleeping' in the same room, and 'bed sharing'.

Bed sharing definitely kept me and my babies happy and sleeping. Lots of women find it helps with breastfeeding. 'Three in a Bed' is a great book on the subject.

Just noting other safety issues:

Not if you smoke/are drunk.
No pillows.
No duvet (I kept a duvet down round my waist and slept in jumpers etc).

I had a bed rail type of thing to stop the baby falling out of bed.

My biggest regret in my life was not co sleeping. I was complex inflexible about it and consequently never got enough sleep for years

I’d would have been a far happier and better parent if I’d just been less stubborn

We are fully bonded now (he’s 11) but it was a bad time and my mental health was in the floor

My DD is 2, but when she was a baby she was a terrible sleeper, I can only speak from my experience, NOTHING HELPS, I tried EVERYTHING, but the little gremlin wouldn't sleep. She's still a little gremlin, and I still have no sleep because she wakes me up at 5:30 in the morning!

Had two non sleeping buggars. Still alive (me) and they're still asleep right now!
It's bloody awful, there is hope tho! Anyone who can take him so you can sleep?

I co-slept with my second. It was the only way to get through it. She woke every 20-30 mins otherwise.

Goodness, I didn’t expect any comment on my co sleeping post! I don’t know many parents who didn’t co sleep at some point to be honest. And I’m not sure where the whole “arm as a pillow” came from? My arm was dead because when I co slept I would stay in one position all night instead of moving about. So no, I never was in the slightest bit worried about squishing them. We safely slept with no cover or pillow, I don’t drink or smoke. It was totally fine and to be honest in my circle, more normal than all this controlled crying, walking in and out, picking up and putting down which seems to be popular but for me, seemed like a big hassle.

Not everyone likes it but it meant that my babies and I always slept really well, they could feed in the night with my vaguely aware of them latching on and off and it was all cosy and stress free.

I second the gripe water tip. It was the only thing that worked on DS1. His relief was instantaneous!

I know I’ll get matched out of here and shot, but have you tried the Gina Ford routine? I did it with both my kids and they slept really well. It’s easy. I never managed to do it 100% as I’m pretty slapdash in most areas of my life, but it still worked a treat.

There is no criticism of anybody’s choice. I would happily co sleep if it got me/us more sleep. I just honestly don’t know what the difference is. If it’s that someone is holding/cradling baby then that’s fine, that’s the difference, but it isn’t recommended (and like I say that’s not intended critically, we use a Sleepyhead even though I know you aren’t really supposed to!)
Well when they’re little and don’t move you make a sort of c shape around them with them at breast height and you on your side. That’s the officially safe position and one that comes quite naturally anyway I think.
Then once they can move you just don’t bother with thinking about it and you all just move around in the night as feels natural.

I tried a co-sleeper with my first and I would get the baby to sleep, put them down, they wake instantly and start screaming, try again and again and again until finally after 3 hours they don’t wake when you put them down and sleep 30 minutes until the cycle starts again. It just wasn’t workable.

Ds was a very windy baby. I used to wind him by lying him face down on my arm arms and legs either side. Head facing into elbow way round. Worked for us. Used to send him to sleep too!

I think as with most things with these babies - if it works, we crack on! I just keep wondering what I’m missing with the co sleeping - sorry if it came across as if I was being sniffy

My baby did not sleep for 4 months no matter what we tried it turned out that he was allergic to cows milk it took so long to figure out because he wasn't sick and had no rash once he was on prescription milk it made the world of difference he still can get bad reflux but no where near as bad as when he was on cows milk maybe try the soya milk xx

Is his name Stewie by any chance?

Yes. Agree. Up until a week ago, I was certain I was dead. I think my baby may have been sent by Russians to torture me 🤷‍♀️

If it helps, we've had nearly 5 months of very, very little sleep (see: username), but over the last week we've done some gentle sleep training/changed our routine a bit, and she's now sleeping 5-6 hour stretches throughout the night. It's UNBELIEVABLE. So don't lose hope.

@CockneyCutie

Love it! I think I should set up as an overnight baby rocker as it seems my body has decided than 3 hours sleep is plenty, been like it for years.