UK firm to stop using British pork due to Brexit

[LadyWithLapdog]

www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/mar/24/uk-firm-to-stop-using-british-pork-after-post-brexit-border-problems-helen-browning

It’s not the sunny uplands people were promised.

This is a bit desperate, even for anti-brexiteers.

@NiceGerbil i don't know how to attach link but check full facts out for report in exports and how accurate it is

Lots of British meat is sent abroad for processing and packaging.

@NiceGerbil sausages on par in butchers with these , in fact a little cheaper and like you i thought butcher more expensive but with deals and the fact products don't shrink I actually am pleasantly surprised.
Not too many places without a butcher , fishmongers yes very scarce and its crazy we don't eat more fish in the uk
But this could also backfire if many buy because they are british ? As most of their sales are to uk

@IridecentPearl well with carbon footprint maybe this should be looked at more as well, surely meat is also fresher if it doesn't make a couple journeys
As a consumer if a uk company that says british meat I would assume it was processed in the uk , so you learn something every day

@Mrstwiddle I don’t know why you think discussing this is desperate. It’s a serious downside of Brexit. One that was foreseeable and it’s proving to be exactly that.

The stuff about shellfish in the news today.

FFS again.

UK describing it as a ban when in fact we're having the same rules supplies as other non EU suppliers.

Cake and eat it comes to mind. And when the things that were going to happen, happen. It's all 'the EU are so mean'.

Utterly pathetic.

If you want to have the rules for club members then you need to be a member FGS.

Nicegerbil, the point about the shellfish trade is that the EU have decided to declare UK waters as unclean! Which of course it isn't and hasn't suddenly become so overnight which was not clear in the negotiations. They are perfectly fine with any seafood caught in our waters and landed in an EU country but landed here no! They are taking Norwegian shell fish, which isn't in the EU so what are they doing discriminating against the UK?
I think, when things are back to normal in France and the other heavy shell fish eating countries and the restaurants all open up they will find a way to get UK product.

So their usp is that they are organic so better than all of these cheap supermarket sausages, but they are shipping them back and forwards so actually can’t give a shit about the environment?

'The EEA agreement grants Norway access to the EU's single market. From the 23,000 EU laws currently in force,[9] the EEA has incorporated around 5,000 (in force)[10] meaning that Norway is subject to roughly 21% of EU laws'

They are in the EEA.

More info

'This arrangement facilitates free movement of goods, capital, services and people between the EU and EFTA members including Norway.[12] Free movement of goods means freedom from customs fees, where however food and beverage is excluded (because those are subsidised by the EU). Fishing and agriculture incur over €100 million of tariffs annually due to customs fees. Joining the European Union as a full member would eliminate these fees and lead to lower food prices in Norway. This is opposed by farmers and the fishing industry as it would create additional competition for domestic producers.[13] Free movement of people means freedom of movement for workers between Norway and EU, and that Norway is a part of the Schengen Area.[12]'

@NiceGerbil

'they could find a uk factory to make them I am sure there are plenty'

You think this successful company with 20 years trading in the UK does not know as well as you what sausage making factories exist in the UK that meet their requirements and price points.

Seriously?

I must admit it makes me wonder just how many factories in the UK have closed because British firms have moved their production elsewhere in Europe. It's coming back to bite them in the arse now.

I also find it really funny that some posters are really slagging off the ethics, strategies and produce of a successful British company because they said Brexit had caused them issues meaning they have to change the way they manufacture their product.

I mean listen to yourselves

Wasn't there something about supporting British bangers on yes minister years ago?

Expect why not do the research?

I'd be very interested to hear how many sausage factories in the UK have closed in say the last 20 years, what size they were in terms of output, and the reasons they gave.

It would add some meat to the discussion, as it were

Personally I hate the wandering food chain and don't want to buy imported British meat in a sausage.
I can see it's frustrating for the company.

Nicegerbil, the point about the shellfish trade is that the EU have decided to declare UK waters as unclean! Which of course it isn't and hasn't suddenly become so overnight which was not clear in the negotiations.

UK waters are unclean - most are classified as Class B and that hasn’t changed in the last few years.

Maybe if the UK had actually properly enacted the Urban Waste Water Directive and stopped discharging untreated waste waters to UK rivers and coastal waters (and not pissed and moaned about the ECJ taking action over sewage discharges) then our coastal waters might be a bit cleaner?

Never heard of this company. If they market their products as British, I’d be cheesed off to learn they were processed elsewhere.

Yep.

I get my sausages from the local bacon man, 12 for £4
Lovely as well.
( totally misses the point of thread)

I do think it's disappointing that at some point in the last 20 years they've not invested in their local community and developed processing closer to home.

I've been trying to eat local produce especially fish to help.

Used to buy these but they disappeared from local Sainsburys a couple of months ago. Perhaps this is why.

Been buying them off and on for about 20 years now. Basil hey are really handy as they come in small packs (100g each) and cook up very quickly so ideal if you fancy a quick sarnie.

Didn’t realise how hey were manufactured in Germany, but to be fair they do have slightly different texture to a UK banger. Always thought that was the size/casing. Hey did change the recipe a bit a good few years back.

Used to share a house with someone who’d been to visit their farm operation whilst he was at agricultural college as they were one of the first people doing large scale organic farming.

Anyway, shame if they disappear. Their bacon is also nice.

I wonder if nicegerbil is the director of said sausage company.
Basic summary, "UK" firm decide German workers matter more than British farmers, and I am meant to support this decision for some unknown reason.

UK firm wants to survive post-Brexit and continue their existing business.

I know Germany is in the EU but it is not so backwards that you can pay staff 10p an hour to keep costs down, right? So no reason they couldn't move production to the country where the meat comes from and is ultimately consumed.