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Royal Referendum : 1 word answer

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Justjackie · 06/03/2021 08:56

This isn't a royal family bashing thread..just interested to know how people would vote once the Queen has died and the was a vote on whether to keep the royal family or not.. a simple yes ( to keep ) or no.

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NorthernBirdAtHeart · 06/03/2021 11:23

No

VegetarianDeathCult · 06/03/2021 11:26

@rosy71

Yes I would have to see an extremely well-researched alternative being proposed to even consider otherwise. At the moment, I can't see a viable alternative.
Agreed that the process of actually dismantling a monarchy and its possessions would be complex, but surely it's not hard to envision the alternative in having an elected Head of State?

Look at Ireland. HoS has a seven-year term of office, no more than two terms; largely ceremonial role, with some powers of dissolving government and signing bills into law, but mostly representing the people of Ireland at home and abroad and being commander of the defence forces; salary pegged to the top of the civil servant scale and the use of a house, car, plane and security/admin staff while in the role.

Doesn't attract career politicians because of the lack of political power -- this is the error most British people seem to make when they say they don't want an elected 'President Blair or Trump', because they're confusing the role of PM/US presidency with the role of a ceremonial HoS. In fact, there's no need for the HoS to be a politician at all. In Ireland, all you have to be is 35, an Irish citizen and get the backing of a certain number of county councils or TDs to run, and past candidates have been academics, lawyers, charity campaigners etc.

And you get to vote for your candidate, not just accept them because they're next in line. And, if you don't like them, you get a change in seven years, or they can be removed from office if incapacitated or criminal, or considered by the High Court to have abused the office.

It's a perfectly rational system, far fairer and more democratic, and more genuinely representative of a nation's people. I suspect the reason that not everyone leaps at it is bound up with weird inherited ideas of deference and a liking for royal spectacle.

Freddiefox · 06/03/2021 11:26

@Iwantacookie

Ide personally prefer charles to be skipped and it go straight to William. I think people would respect him more than Charles. If it's going to Charles then my vote would be no
That’s sort of defeats the whole point, If we are going to jump the line, let’s make a jump sideways and pick a family with more integrity and Deserving.

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Freddiefox · 06/03/2021 11:26

No

farfallarocks · 06/03/2021 11:26

No

ladyvimes · 06/03/2021 11:27

No

Herja · 06/03/2021 11:27

No.

Mrsorganmorgan · 06/03/2021 11:28

Yes, who would you suggest to be President?

joan12 · 06/03/2021 11:28

No

Ostryga · 06/03/2021 11:29

@Mrsorganmorgan

Yes, who would you suggest to be President?
Very, very good point!

We’d have to sack off all the current politicians as well and start again. Although I wouldn’t mind that Grin

farfallarocks · 06/03/2021 11:30

It’s all too much. 99 year olds getting heart surgery ( my father was left to rot at 74), all of them running off to the country like rats on a sinking ship in a pandemic. Kate trying to relate to the plebs about how hard home school is ( with full staff and a blow dry) and that’s before
We get into the paedophiles, nazi sympathisers and narcissists. I used to be a monarchist. This year has shown me what a total irrelevance they are. Vive la revolution

NoPinkPlease · 06/03/2021 11:30

No

KleineDracheKokosnuss · 06/03/2021 11:30

No

GintyMcGinty · 06/03/2021 11:31

yes

LadyPoison · 06/03/2021 11:31

No

KleineDracheKokosnuss · 06/03/2021 11:32

Apparently we need a head of state. I vote that we appoint a Labrador and then just keep voting in animals. A tortoise could last for decades with minimal upkeep.

PicsInRed · 06/03/2021 11:32

@Mrsorganmorgan

Yes, who would you suggest to be President?
Have a vote. Put Charles up for the first vote, he's not my cup of tea but it would get the job done for migration across to full representative democracy.
DirtyHydrogen · 06/03/2021 11:32

No.

sleepyhead · 06/03/2021 11:34

@Mrsorganmorgan

Yes, who would you suggest to be President?
If the president would be following the same rules and conventions as the queen then it could literally be anyone.

We can have a president like Ireland - doesnt need to be like the US.

Mrsorganmorgan · 06/03/2021 11:34

@Ostryga

We could end up with someone like Trump, and how much would it cost?

Ostryga · 06/03/2021 11:36

@Mrsorganmorgan we already have Trump Lite! I can’t imagine much worse than Johnson tbh.

VegetarianDeathCult · 06/03/2021 11:36

Exactly, @Freddiefox. If you support a monarchy, you are supporting a system where the whole point is you don't get to choose.

Just think, if the Queen's children's birth order had been different, or if Charles had died without having children, the heir to the throne would be a man who was at the very least the longtime friend of a notorious paedophile, himself suspected of sex with an underage girl allegedly trafficked for sex, and wanted for questioning by the FBI.

Because you get who you get.

AnnieRich · 06/03/2021 11:38

No

SeigneurLapindeGrantham · 06/03/2021 11:38

No

VegetarianDeathCult · 06/03/2021 11:40

That's an interesting thought, @PicsInRed, to have an election on Charles becoming HoS. Do you think he would be elected, if he were running against credible, appealing fellow candidates, and had to put forward a case for why he should be HoS? Would a culture of deference and a liking for 'tradition' overcome the fact that even many avowed royalists say they aren't keen on him?