Just that. We have a good relationship, it's been over a year now but obviously a lot of it during lock down stuff and too far away for easy meetings for a walk etc.
We talk on the phone most days, but want to get away from the what happened at work/politics/lockdown stuff.
What are some light and easy topics of conversations that lead to interesting, not too deep chat? Surely I can't be the only one who is running out of small talk? 
(It is fine face to face but a little harder on the phone)