There is a paedophile living on the next road to me.

[Wellthisisjustfuckingbrilliant]

Found out today through the medium of Facebook. Pleaded guilty to downloading cat A images and received a suspended sentence/put on the sex offenders register.

He lives almost next door to a play park.

At the moment there is plenty of pitch forks at the ready from the neighbours from what I can tell. But can anyone tell me seriously how this will be policed/monitored?

About 10 years ago, I found out (3rd hand, but from a reputable source that I trusted) that my immediate neighbour was a paedophile, and not just downloading images but actually a contact offender who had been to prison for abusing his young child. My daughter was 3 at the time.

There wasn't anything I could do at the time, but I moved really soon after.

I did seek advice from a police officer friend (not about the specifics) who assured me that sex offenders are visited regularly by specialist officers, they have to register where they are living and details of their lives even down to what devices they own (phones etc). They usually have restrictions on what they can do like not being allowed to be in a household with under 18's etc.

These threads normally descend into competitive hatred. “I hate paedophiles more than you”.

How does driving paedophiles underground help to protect children?

www.theupstreamproject.org.uk/prevent/what-if-a-sex-offender-moves-into-my-area

www.parentsprotect.co.uk/police-disclosure-scheme.htm

@Cattenberg exactly. The Sarahs Law info explicitly states that they avoided a US stype system of having a public access register to avoid these people "going missing" and therefore posing more of a risk to children.

It's such a horrible subject to talk about, makes my skin crawl.

My concern is that if they live close to young children they might try to kidnap them if they are in close proximity.

If they’ve already been convicted then something in them had the compulsion to download inappropriate stuff then what makes you think they wouldn’t go one step further and attack a child.

As a parent, it’s hard enough letting my DD out to play, but knowing there’s a paedo close by makes it even worse imo. That’s how I feel.

@PearlescentIridescent

Right, how it read was as a freedom of information request, which, if approved would be a number. I.e you can ask how many people were convicted of a child sex offence in 2019 in the Kent Police force area. You'd receive a number.

CSODS is for named persons coming into contact with a child. I.e - my next door neighbour has offered to collect my child from school once a week, are they safe to do this? You'd receive a response based on the named person you have asked about.

Different requests - different outcomes.

Exactly right :) sorry for the confusion.

Out of interest, are you able to put a FOI request in for such information? How local can you make this information? I have to say I'm surprised that/if you can do that.

I live in a tiny village and we all know 2 of the residents are on the register for images, one including videos of child rape.

A couple of years ago we had a situation where a newly-released sex offender was housed in our lovely little rural community just around the corner from the playground. He was here literally a week or so before he was caught on school property with a camera. To give the Head his dues, he messaged all parents to warn us after the Police collected the piece of shit from school grounds and told the Head about his past. He was never returned to the village, which was a good thing as the pitch forks were well and truly out!

There are way more of these scumbags around than most realise.

@PearlescentIridescent

Exactly right :) sorry for the confusion.

No drama, sorry if you thought I'd jumped on you - I can be quite blunt.

@PearlescentIridescent

Out of interest, are you able to put a FOI request in for such information? How local can you make this information? I have to say I'm surprised that/if you can do that.

Feel free to DM me, I'm conscious of changing the thread topic too much.

@Notabove25

We have one a few doors away. I know this because it was reported in the local press, woh his full name, age and street, I went to school with him and my parents (his parents' neighbours) have spoken to his parents about it and the trauma it has brought them. So I know local press definitely do report it with details.

He lives very close to a primary school and there was a huge outcry at the time locally, but nothing to be done. Realistically if he's downloading others' images, he's no risk to local children and the risk is certainly no higher than if you didn't know about him.

Yeah people often forget to distinguish between peadophiles and child molesters. Only a tiny proportion of peadophiles become child molesters. & interestingly most child molesters are not peadophiles.

So I personally wouldn't be afraid of this individual living nearby.

@Wellthisisjustfuckingbrilliant

There are paedophiles all around us unfortunately.

They're everywhere. There is a tv programme on it every Monday (I watched it once (accidentally) and I can't watch it again) and they say there are 500k ones in the uk and that's known ones.

Watching it really affected my MH.

I knew anyway how many there on as I have worked in rehab (luckily with none of the above).

And I have looked on the register and they're mostly teachers.

I'm obviously not saying all teachers are p*but every other two had "teacher" beside their name as their profession.

**Yeah people often forget to distinguish between peadophiles and child molesters. Only a tiny proportion of peadophiles become child molesters. & interestingly most child molesters are not peadophiles.

So I personally wouldn't be afraid of this individual living nearby**

@AbstractHeart

I’m sorry but that doesn’t even make sense I’m both counts!

Just because a paedophile hasn’t physically abused (molested) a child, doesn’t mean he wouldn’t if the opportunity came about!!!!!

And how can someone that molestors children not be considered a paedophile??!!!!!

@TableFlowerss

**Yeah people often forget to distinguish between peadophiles and child molesters. Only a tiny proportion of peadophiles become child molesters. & interestingly most child molesters are not peadophiles.

So I personally wouldn't be afraid of this individual living nearby**

@AbstractHeart

I’m sorry but that doesn’t even make sense I’m both counts!

Just because a paedophile hasn’t physically abused (molested) a child, doesn’t mean he wouldn’t if the opportunity came about!!!!!

And how can someone that molestors children not be considered a paedophile??!!!!!

You're making a slippery slope argument but that a logical fallacy. It's like saying that just because you like eating steak you'd eat a human if you had the opportunity.

And in regards to the second point you might find this interesting: themamabeareffect.org/think-all-child-molesters-are-pedophiles-think-again/

Posting details of charges against someone isn't contempt, as long as it's clear that the person is accused at that stage.

Newspapers print offenders' addresses partly to make the distinction from others with the same name. There might be 100 David Smiths in town so you have to make clear who it is who has been convicted.

You're making a slippery slope argument but that a logical fallacy. It's like saying that just because you like eating steak you'd eat a human if you had the opportunity

Everything is subjective. I don’t care what an article says, because there would be another one that would counter against it if I cared to find it.

I’m not saying there are no elements of truth but no one knows what someone will/will not do.

I’m sure you’re right and that most paedos wouldn’t take the next step, but the point is - I wouldn’t want to give them the opportunity to find out. So it can’t be assumed that they wouldn’t if he opportunity arose.

And the steak analogy is moot as eating steak is normal behaviour. Downloading images of children..... isn’t at all normal!!

Sorry to say it, but that's the one paedo you know about. They are everywhere and you're more in danger from them in places you wouldn't expect.

I heard years ago that there was, on average, just under one known paedophile living on every street in the UK. I don't know actually how true this is as a fact but it has been quoted many times.

I know where the peadophile (convicted and now out of prison) lives on our street. I live on a small street. There are two other dodgy men nearby but I do not know how true the rumours are about them.

Is it better to move myself to an area where I know no one? Is it good policy to 'encourage' the peado-next-door to move elsewhere so he's someone else's problem? Or no one moves?

And how can someone that molestors children not be considered a paedophile??!!!!!

I listen to a lot of true crime and what this poster said is curiously true. They had a psychologist on who explained it well - molestors are not truly paedophiles because they are not exclusively attracted to children. Molestors pray on vulnerablility and this includes children, rather than being exclusive to children. They are sexual predators. An example of this would be Richard Ramirez (the night stalker) - he prayed on children but also the elderly.

Pedophiles are attracted to children and while is obviously sick I don't think they have quite the same risk as physically being offenders themselves (not an expert).

@PearlescentIridescent

And how can someone that molestors children not be considered a paedophile??!!!!!

I listen to a lot of true crime and what this poster said is curiously true. They had a psychologist on who explained it well - molestors are not truly paedophiles because they are not exclusively attracted to children. Molestors pray on vulnerablility and this includes children, rather than being exclusive to children. They are sexual predators. An example of this would be Richard Ramirez (the night stalker) - he prayed on children but also the elderly.

Pedophiles are attracted to children and while is obviously sick I don't think they have quite the same risk as physically being offenders themselves (not an expert).

Yeah I do get what you mean regarding the actual semantics of the wording and the other poster does have a point.

My worry is that whilst there are two different categories, as you say, one is specifically attracted to children, the other isn’t but will still cause harm, they’re both equally concerning scenarios.

I think the terminology is interchangeable and a man that is say 30 and sleeping with a 15 year old girl, would still be considered a paedophile, even if he’s had previously girlfriends etc... he may not be attracted to young children, but I don’t think many people would dispute he deserves the title of a paedophile, regardless of whether he fits the true description of one (a man that’s attracted to children only)

Just to add- I get what you mean about the predator nature of molestorers, but I would still be concerned that’s a paedophile would take the opportunity if it arises.

No one can say whether someone would/wouldn’t do something if the opportunity presented itself. So in the situation of them living beside parks etc and schools, I just feel it’s so wrong to put them anywhere near children playing.

Do you live near me @Wellthisisjustfuckingbrilliant ? 🤔