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Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)

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file · 01/02/2021 19:04

Inspired by the thread on things that baffle you in other countries, where quite a lot of the discussion related to homes in other countries, I thought it’d be interesting with a thread showing standard homes in different countries and some information about how choices have been made when it comes to their layout etc.

So here are two links to two different homes in Sweden. This one (you’ll get straight to a gallery with pictures and the layout is at the bottom) is a fairly typical house built in the 1970s:
www.hemnet.se/bostad/villa-6rum-rodeby-karlskrona-kommun-fasanvagen-6-17145055#gallery

There are several areas to sit outside, wooden decking areas. There is a large hallway, easy to store clothes and put away shoes. There are two lounges – very common, and normally desired, for families; one for the parents, one for children to have friends in etc. The kitchen was probably a room of its own in the 1970s, but it’s now more or less open to the lounge. There is a separate utility room, and a big storage room with a separate entrance (“förråd”). There is also an indoors storage room, “Klk”. There are bedrooms on the ground floor as well as on the first floor – this is very common, people like not having all bedrooms next to each other (so do I!). Sometimes when the children get older parents like to move downstairs and leave the upstairs to the children completely (including cleaning haha!). In this house, the downstairs bedrooms are kind of tucked away, but it is also common to have a bedroom literally inside the entrance door for example.

When this house was built and bought, the upstairs probably wasn’t ready – people would buy a house that was ‘half-done’ and then when they had saved more money they’d do the upstairs too. So there is no proper bathroom upstairs, just a loo; this is very unusual. (And usually, all bathrooms and loos are fully tiled – all new built houses always have fully tiled bathrooms and toilets, so this is a house that has not been renovated to what is now standard.)

It is also very typical that there are no doors to the lounge/hallway for example. I think that is one reason why Scandi people feel that English houses are so crowded/small/narrow, there’s no open space (even without expanding it would feel more airy if there weren’t doors to three rooms on the ground floor from a very narrow hallway, for example).

So people buying this house would probably fit a proper bathroom upstairs, for example. The downstairs looks quite ‘normal’ and ready to go.

This is quite a standard, recently built flat for families (in fact, it’s just being built, so there are options for the first buyer to choose between, different bathroom tiles for example).

www.hemnet.se/bostad/lagenhet-4rum-majorna-goteborgs-kommun-fixfabrikens-gata-4-17184735#gallery

Three bedrooms, two bathrooms, one of them also has a washing machine and a drier. Two balconies (this is unusual, one is standard), open plan living again. Quite a lot of cupboards/storage, including in the hallway and built in wardrobes in every room. Specific cleaning cupboard in the kitchen area. Big windows – really important, this is one thing I miss in England.

(Bedrooms are never presented as 'double' or 'single' - I don't know any 'child' living at home who had a double bed, and everything is measured in sq metres - it'd be pointless information for someone that a double bedroom, it doesn't say anything about the size, apart from the fact that it is at least 2x2 metres ;-) )

Would be really interesting to see a standard home in Italy/France/Spain/Ireland/the Netherlands for example and hear about the choices made there/what people like and want, I’ve never been in any :-)

I can post some homes in Denmark later on too if anyone's interested.

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KatharinaRosalie · 04/02/2021 15:09

Moving out cleaning is similar in Switzerland, and this also happens when you move out of a rental. All appliances professionally serviced, all holes from hanging pictures filled, absolutely everything cleaned to impeccable standard - including disassembling taps, inside the toilet tank, all filters everywhere cleaned or changed, carpets shampooed etc. Most people also use cleaning companies.

TheElementsSong · 04/02/2021 15:13

@mrbensbaker

I'm often surprised by some people in countries like Australia, some of the Caribbean islands make their houses look like an old fashioned British house with their furnishings. If I lived in a hot country I'd want a light and airy house with fabrics and furniture to match and not a house with dark wooden furniture, heavy fabrics and patterned carpets.
That's what I loved about the traditional Malaysian shophouses (like my ancestors lived in). So practical for the hot, humid, rainy equatorial climate.

They were built around one or two internal courtyards/airwells with the rooms leading off open-air verandahs, this encouraged cooling air to flow around the house and the hot air up out of the air well. As a young child I remember the courtyards were where they grew an internal "garden" of potted plants and herbs, and many even had a "pond in a pot" with small fish. The kitchen and bathrooms were at the back, open to a second courtyard. The windows often had no glass, just louvred wooden shutters.

At the front was the "five-foot way" created by the overhang of the upper floors, this was the "public" footpath which provided shade from the sun and shelter from the tropical rain.

Then everybody got air-conditioning and nobody wanted the dark old-fashioned houses any more. If only my family had hung on to the ancestral shophouse Sad

Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
littleloopylou · 04/02/2021 15:19

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BosleyCharliesAngel · 04/02/2021 15:28

@SaturdayAfternoon - I am sorry to bring you back to your post on the first page where you listed three Scandi houses and the 3rd one you mentioned had a penchant for draped blankets and messy beds.
There is a lot more wrong with how that house was staged :D
1 - why are there so many glasses of water left on the floor? Some on open books too. Wouldn't they get kicked over?
2 - going back to the water glasses, why are they on the floor when there are suitable tables/bedside lockers available to put them on?
3 - If you're trying to sell a house, don't you think that the beds should be made to show the rooms off to the best advantage or is messy the new thing? If it is, then I'm set for whenever we sell up Grin
4 - What is up with the hose in the bathroom?
5 - The arty Ikea-inspired picture of fruit??
6 - Do you get the children as well as the house??
Grin

mrbensbaker · 04/02/2021 15:32

Looking at all that cleaning that's needed in Swedish and Swiss homes - If I did all that then I wouldn't want to move! Grin

MozzchopsThirty · 04/02/2021 15:34

Great idea for a thread!

This https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/900-Clear-Creek-CirClermonttFL347144M52988-42538 was the street we stayed on in Florida

5 beds and a pool for £171k which wouldn't buy me a 2 bed mid link where I am

Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Xenia · 04/02/2021 15:36

Bottom line is the UK seems to have the least space and smallest homes sadly. Squashed in like sardines. We have 17m more people than when I was born for example.

My son just bought a 2 bed terraced with garden for £350k England (SE). You don't get much here for your money.

MozzchopsThirty · 04/02/2021 15:37

@Xenia you really don't

banivani · 04/02/2021 15:39

Oh scandinavian style-to-sell is an art form. Here's an article about a listing that went viral with paprikas/bell peppers: www.hemnet.se/artiklar/inspiration/2014/12/18/paprikahuset-rets-mest-klickade-hus Just look at the pics. Seller's idea apparently.

@TheElementsSong so interesting to see traditional buildings with smart climate control!

I also really enjoyed the Indonesian public/private separation in a post above. I think that's really clever in general and more houses/apartments should be built like that so you can retire somewhere iyswim.

As an aside, my daughter is just moving now and the flat was very dirty. She contacted the landlord and they had to send a cleaning firm to sort it. Previous occupants clearly idiots.

Haggisfish · 04/02/2021 15:46

Scottish houses all have white harling/pebble stuff as the weather is so horrendous, to protect the bricks!

MumUndone · 04/02/2021 15:57

@canihaveacoffeeplease

I live in Australia and 2 things that get to me:
  1. lack of double glazing and insulation. So you pay a fortune to heat a house in winter/cool it in summer and it just wafts out the windows/roof. When it's very windy outside it moves our bedroom door with all windows shut. So draughty. And it's a pretty nice house that's only 15 years old. Ridiculous. Our last house was just as bad, and also a modern house.

  2. we aren't on mains water (were in the last house though) and all our household water is rainwater collected from our roof. There is no filter on the water so we drink straight from the tanks, which I find so very weird, but is completely normal here. I honestly don't understand how more people don't get sick!. In summer it won't rain for weeks/months at a time and I can't help but think about 2 huge festering tanks in the garden and what might be breeding in them! We have a brita filter jug which eases my worries slightly! And yet no one seems to get sick off this water at all, and tank water is very common.

I also find it so odd that our house is pretty big with a massive open plan kitchen/living/dining space, a second huge living space, and yet the bedrooms, especially not the master (but even that) are absolutely tiny.

Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty good house, just has annoyances, as would most houses.

Things I love about Aussie houses: open plan living, large kitchens, huge outdoor covered terraces (ours is like an extra living room we use it so much), outdoor kitchens, large utility rooms, separate laundry rooms, separate loo to bathroom (so handy in the morning when someone is in the shower).

I think that giardiasis is fairly common in Australia?
Afromeg · 04/02/2021 15:57

@TheElementsSong That is awesome - I love it! A really wonderful idea I never thought of. This sort of layout should be a staple in hot countries like ours. Don't know why it isn't.

Afromeg · 04/02/2021 16:06

@qalb Yes oh. Grin

Uh-oh What did Oyinbo do to people this time? LOL. Not on Twitter so don't know but now I'm curious. Any links or search clue so I can go lurk?

BosleyCharliesAngel · 04/02/2021 16:17

I did a search for 3 bed semi detatched (which is the usual in Dublin unless you're living in an apartment) in one of the suburbs and these are the results in the same postcode of Dublin:
www.myhome.ie/residential/dublin/semi-detached-house-for-sale-in-dublin-13?minbeds=3
These houses are on the northside of the city.

If I repeat the search but pick a southside suburb I get these:
www.myhome.ie/residential/dublin/semi-detached-house-for-sale-in-dublin-18?minbeds=3

As far as I'm aware houses in Ireland are on the majority connected to mains water and electricity but not necessarily for heating. Gas and oil are popular for central heating but a lot of older homes may only have an open fire in the living room for example.

Deathraystare · 04/02/2021 16:21

@ SwedishK

I like the look of that house and the address - Vikings Hill? Gotta Love that!

qalb · 04/02/2021 16:30

[quote Afromeg]@qalb Yes oh. Grin

Uh-oh What did Oyinbo do to people this time? LOL. Not on Twitter so don't know but now I'm curious. Any links or search clue so I can go lurk?[/quote]
Ah you know... breathe Wink

No it’s not all bad, one of the main talking points at the moment is “Oyinbo people can love sha” and then there’s always a link to a random couple who have been together 6 weeks, have got married, bought a house and are expecting a baby... talking stages that go on for years are not for Oyinbo people Grin

TheElementsSong · 04/02/2021 16:50

[quote Afromeg]@TheElementsSong That is awesome - I love it! A really wonderful idea I never thought of. This sort of layout should be a staple in hot countries like ours. Don't know why it isn't.[/quote]
Smile I know, right? The design was so sensible and practical that even until the 1980s, some terrace houses and shophouses were still being built with an internal airwell, albeit with hideous modern architectural features. The "downside" by modern standards is that the rooms facing into the courtyard are comparatively dark (but enjoy complete privacy from outsiders).

The other, even more traditional, house design in Malaysian villages was to have the entire house raised on stilts. This provided several advantages: (a) storage for bulky/dirty stuff, (b) constant flow of cool air under the house which was drawn up through gaps in the floor and out of gaps under the eaves, (c) some discouragement to the many species of snakes 🐍🐍🐍which might seek to enter the house Grin

For many decades, these excellent traditional designs were denigrated in the quest for modernity and so many houses crumbled into disrepair. My parents' generation sold off the shophouse in town and the farmhouse in the countryside, because they preferred "modern" buildings with air-con and less upkeep.

Luckily, many younger people have begun to value this heritage and gradually some of the surviving houses are being restored.

Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
SaturdayAfternoon · 04/02/2021 16:51

More draped blankets!

I always fold my book like that, don’t you?

Aaaand..... boxers?!

dnbeiendom.no/bolig/Vestland/Bergen/Fyllingsdalen/Sikthaugen-terrasse-61/711200103

Afromeg · 04/02/2021 16:53

🤣🤣

@qalb Forgot some people still fall for stereotypes. At least it's a positive one, even if misguided. I blame Hollywood. Lol

ginghamstarfish · 04/02/2021 16:59

Re the water tanks in Australia, we had the same in New Zealand, but there was a replaceable filter where it came into the house, and this had to be replaced every so often. Some neighbours had their own wellwater.

SaturdayAfternoon · 04/02/2021 17:15

[quote BosleyCharliesAngel]@SaturdayAfternoon - I am sorry to bring you back to your post on the first page where you listed three Scandi houses and the 3rd one you mentioned had a penchant for draped blankets and messy beds.
There is a lot more wrong with how that house was staged :D
1 - why are there so many glasses of water left on the floor? Some on open books too. Wouldn't they get kicked over?
2 - going back to the water glasses, why are they on the floor when there are suitable tables/bedside lockers available to put them on?
3 - If you're trying to sell a house, don't you think that the beds should be made to show the rooms off to the best advantage or is messy the new thing? If it is, then I'm set for whenever we sell up Grin
4 - What is up with the hose in the bathroom?
5 - The arty Ikea-inspired picture of fruit??
6 - Do you get the children as well as the house??
Grin[/quote]
Tell me about it Grin!

I have been looking at a lot and I’m sure I keep seeing the same pair of shoes/ coat hanging up in the entrance! Grin

Afromeg · 04/02/2021 17:38

For many decades, these excellent traditional designs were denigrated in the quest for modernity and so many houses crumbled into disrepair.

@TheElementsSong I was just going to write something similar while I was still reading your post and I came across this part. I let out an involuntary "Mmm" in agreement and was thinking: "Preach it!" lol

We have similar issues. You'll still see those practical ones built by our great-grandparents and ancestors in the villages and smaller towns but if you try to do something like that in the township (urban) or city areas or even in your 'hometown/village' as a newbuild, you'll be seen as eclectic/ extremely old-fashioned or poor ('building with the little you can afford') or just weird. But that's for those who care what others think.

The description of the homes is fascinating and it just looks peaceful. The airy storage space under the house is genius. It's great these traditional houses are being restored.

BertieBotts · 04/02/2021 17:39

Just marking place - I live in Germany so will come back with German house info :o

steppemum · 04/02/2021 18:07

Fascinated by the Malaysian houses.

In Indonesia the houses vary enormously from island to island, but they all have a couple of things in common (apart fromt he guest receiving room I wrote about earlier.

they all have roofs which overhang quite a long way and quite low. Big gables. These do 2 things

  1. shade, veyr little direct sun light
  2. rain, heavy monsoon rains directed as far away as possible (I don;t remember much in the way of guttering.)

But also, on Java, where I was, the houses had a wonderful heat trick. Up at the top of the walls, just below the ceiling, the walls all had mutiple holes in them brick sized, so sort of every second brick was a hole.
This had the effect of creating a draft. The hot air rises, and flows out of the holes and the cool air comes in at ground level. It worked really well to keep houses cool.
the only problem was mosquitoes. So modern houses the hoels all had netting over them.

steppemum · 04/02/2021 18:09

UK houses are small, butby no means the smallest.
Dutch houses are well designed, but the plots are tiny. gardens are postage stamp size

In ex soviet countries, the flats are tiny, common for 6 adults to share 3 bed flat, plus kids.

In Indonesia, the majority of the population,the sort of just beneath the middle class, all lived in very small houses. Very basic.