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Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)

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file · 01/02/2021 19:04

Inspired by the thread on things that baffle you in other countries, where quite a lot of the discussion related to homes in other countries, I thought it’d be interesting with a thread showing standard homes in different countries and some information about how choices have been made when it comes to their layout etc.

So here are two links to two different homes in Sweden. This one (you’ll get straight to a gallery with pictures and the layout is at the bottom) is a fairly typical house built in the 1970s:
www.hemnet.se/bostad/villa-6rum-rodeby-karlskrona-kommun-fasanvagen-6-17145055#gallery

There are several areas to sit outside, wooden decking areas. There is a large hallway, easy to store clothes and put away shoes. There are two lounges – very common, and normally desired, for families; one for the parents, one for children to have friends in etc. The kitchen was probably a room of its own in the 1970s, but it’s now more or less open to the lounge. There is a separate utility room, and a big storage room with a separate entrance (“förråd”). There is also an indoors storage room, “Klk”. There are bedrooms on the ground floor as well as on the first floor – this is very common, people like not having all bedrooms next to each other (so do I!). Sometimes when the children get older parents like to move downstairs and leave the upstairs to the children completely (including cleaning haha!). In this house, the downstairs bedrooms are kind of tucked away, but it is also common to have a bedroom literally inside the entrance door for example.

When this house was built and bought, the upstairs probably wasn’t ready – people would buy a house that was ‘half-done’ and then when they had saved more money they’d do the upstairs too. So there is no proper bathroom upstairs, just a loo; this is very unusual. (And usually, all bathrooms and loos are fully tiled – all new built houses always have fully tiled bathrooms and toilets, so this is a house that has not been renovated to what is now standard.)

It is also very typical that there are no doors to the lounge/hallway for example. I think that is one reason why Scandi people feel that English houses are so crowded/small/narrow, there’s no open space (even without expanding it would feel more airy if there weren’t doors to three rooms on the ground floor from a very narrow hallway, for example).

So people buying this house would probably fit a proper bathroom upstairs, for example. The downstairs looks quite ‘normal’ and ready to go.

This is quite a standard, recently built flat for families (in fact, it’s just being built, so there are options for the first buyer to choose between, different bathroom tiles for example).

www.hemnet.se/bostad/lagenhet-4rum-majorna-goteborgs-kommun-fixfabrikens-gata-4-17184735#gallery

Three bedrooms, two bathrooms, one of them also has a washing machine and a drier. Two balconies (this is unusual, one is standard), open plan living again. Quite a lot of cupboards/storage, including in the hallway and built in wardrobes in every room. Specific cleaning cupboard in the kitchen area. Big windows – really important, this is one thing I miss in England.

(Bedrooms are never presented as 'double' or 'single' - I don't know any 'child' living at home who had a double bed, and everything is measured in sq metres - it'd be pointless information for someone that a double bedroom, it doesn't say anything about the size, apart from the fact that it is at least 2x2 metres ;-) )

Would be really interesting to see a standard home in Italy/France/Spain/Ireland/the Netherlands for example and hear about the choices made there/what people like and want, I’ve never been in any :-)

I can post some homes in Denmark later on too if anyone's interested.

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eaglejulesk · 02/02/2021 04:01

I miss screamed in front porches and the sound of rain on a tin roof.

I love the sound of rain on a tin roof, nothing like it.

eaglejulesk · 02/02/2021 04:06

I would quite like to live in New Brighton @skybluepinks. However, in my current financial situation I could just about afford a door handle!

canihaveacoffeeplease · 02/02/2021 04:08

I live in Australia and 2 things that get to me:

  1. lack of double glazing and insulation. So you pay a fortune to heat a house in winter/cool it in summer and it just wafts out the windows/roof. When it's very windy outside it moves our bedroom door with all windows shut. So draughty. And it's a pretty nice house that's only 15 years old. Ridiculous. Our last house was just as bad, and also a modern house.

  2. we aren't on mains water (were in the last house though) and all our household water is rainwater collected from our roof. There is no filter on the water so we drink straight from the tanks, which I find so very weird, but is completely normal here. I honestly don't understand how more people don't get sick!. In summer it won't rain for weeks/months at a time and I can't help but think about 2 huge festering tanks in the garden and what might be breeding in them! We have a brita filter jug which eases my worries slightly! And yet no one seems to get sick off this water at all, and tank water is very common.

I also find it so odd that our house is pretty big with a massive open plan kitchen/living/dining space, a second huge living space, and yet the bedrooms, especially not the master (but even that) are absolutely tiny.

Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty good house, just has annoyances, as would most houses.

Things I love about Aussie houses: open plan living, large kitchens, huge outdoor covered terraces (ours is like an extra living room we use it so much), outdoor kitchens, large utility rooms, separate laundry rooms, separate loo to bathroom (so handy in the morning when someone is in the shower).

echt · 02/02/2021 05:19

@canihaveacoffeeplease

I live in Australia and 2 things that get to me:
  1. lack of double glazing and insulation. So you pay a fortune to heat a house in winter/cool it in summer and it just wafts out the windows/roof. When it's very windy outside it moves our bedroom door with all windows shut. So draughty. And it's a pretty nice house that's only 15 years old. Ridiculous. Our last house was just as bad, and also a modern house.

  2. we aren't on mains water (were in the last house though) and all our household water is rainwater collected from our roof. There is no filter on the water so we drink straight from the tanks, which I find so very weird, but is completely normal here. I honestly don't understand how more people don't get sick!. In summer it won't rain for weeks/months at a time and I can't help but think about 2 huge festering tanks in the garden and what might be breeding in them! We have a brita filter jug which eases my worries slightly! And yet no one seems to get sick off this water at all, and tank water is very common.

I also find it so odd that our house is pretty big with a massive open plan kitchen/living/dining space, a second huge living space, and yet the bedrooms, especially not the master (but even that) are absolutely tiny.

Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty good house, just has annoyances, as would most houses.

Things I love about Aussie houses: open plan living, large kitchens, huge outdoor covered terraces (ours is like an extra living room we use it so much), outdoor kitchens, large utility rooms, separate laundry rooms, separate loo to bathroom (so handy in the morning when someone is in the shower).

My late DH and larfed when pinging an Aussie window and it vibrated because it was so thin. Jesus. Our UK Edwardian house had better glass.

My house is faux-modern with lots of windows so insulated with the appropriately-styled curtains, which work, also exterior blinds. Lots of passive cooling built in, with deep eaves. It has been extended, etc, since its 50s origin and all four bedrooms are real doubles. When sticky-beaking at sale views I've been similarly appalled at how small bedrooms are in houses built since 2000.

Possibly because they build in fucking stupid theatre rooms. Hmm

GADDay · 02/02/2021 05:48

A few Aussie options

  1. Typical queenslander @
  2. Lowset post war
  3. McMansion @
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
TheOtherBoelynGirl · 02/02/2021 06:06

I lived in Korea for a while and have relatives there so still go back, and it never stopped amazing me that the most desirable type of building to live in was a high-rise, followed by a low-rise followed by a house. Definitely the exact opposite in the UK. Probably a hangover from being very recently developed so city living is still seen as very cool and desirable. Plus people often talk about how estates have everything you need and it's very convenient, but basically everything is convenient in Korea anyway.

There's also one wall made deliberately thin in each apartment so that if you have some kind of issue (intruder, fire, whatever), you could smash through to next door - great if there's a fire, I did like the idea, but did wonder about what would happen if you lived next door to a serial killer.

People love love love neutral decor. There's a site that is kind of social media for decor type thing and everyone's house is beige.

99% of people have digital locks on the door, so you never have to think about keys.

A recent thing is that you register your numberplate on your intercom and it messages you to say when your car arrives. Presumably handy for if someone is coming in from work and you can get the dinner on before they get up (or throw your lover out?)

Most toilets have inbuilt bidets so you can clean after pooping. Great when you're on your period.

My relatives were relatively (hoho) poor growing up, as was I. But when I went to the house my uncle grew up in, yeah, that was a reality check. He has 8 brothers and sisters and they all lived in one room that is the size of my living room. And I mean everything was in there, the kitchen too. The bathroom was a hole in the ground outside. No one is living like that now, of course, but this is only in the 70s, and his parents lived there until about 10 years ago, although they did improve it somewhat. It does utterly amaze me. I was a bit of a lefty commie when I first went over there and they are all very conservative and hail capitalism at every chance, and yeah, when you see that...yeah. You can see why.

Oh and last of all, a house built over 10 years ago is considered 'old'. Having an old house is not a good thing at all like it is for us. There are no big, old lovely houses thanks to successive invasions and the war and all the hardships of poverty.

TheOtherBoelynGirl · 02/02/2021 06:07

@canihaveacoffeeplease Wow, I'm really amazed that people drink water straight from the tank. You'd think that would be really bad for you!

SexyGiraffe · 02/02/2021 06:09

I live near the east coast of Spain. There are lots of apartment blocks but if you're talking typical houses then bungalows or houses with just one or two rooms upstairs are common - heat rises so in older houses the upstairs rooms become unbearably hot in the summer, so lots on the ground floor. It's typical to have a terrace at the front and small balconies for any houses that do have upstairs rooms. Often gardens are small - most people would rather use their outside space for a swimming pool. Older houses all have bars on the windows so people can leave them open in the summer without a security risk, whereas the new ones just have aircon built in so you don't see it as much. There are a lot of modern houses going up in a very stark white square style. Here are two pictures of a more traditional simple casa and the new style that are popping up round here.

Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
echt · 02/02/2021 07:37

@GADDay

A few Aussie options
  1. Typical queenslander @
  2. Lowset post war
  3. McMansion @
I like the lowset post-war, though to me it looks like old-style Queensland. The McMansion is quite a few steps up from the shite I see in Melbourne.
echt · 02/02/2021 07:40

@SexyGiraffe

I live near the east coast of Spain. There are lots of apartment blocks but if you're talking typical houses then bungalows or houses with just one or two rooms upstairs are common - heat rises so in older houses the upstairs rooms become unbearably hot in the summer, so lots on the ground floor. It's typical to have a terrace at the front and small balconies for any houses that do have upstairs rooms. Often gardens are small - most people would rather use their outside space for a swimming pool. Older houses all have bars on the windows so people can leave them open in the summer without a security risk, whereas the new ones just have aircon built in so you don't see it as much. There are a lot of modern houses going up in a very stark white square style. Here are two pictures of a more traditional simple casa and the new style that are popping up round here.
That new style looks just like the barren shacks that litter my part of Melbourne.

Thinking of the older style and security, is it an actual issue or feared?

SexyGiraffe · 02/02/2021 08:22

echt - no, it's a very low crime area, it's just so people can leave their ground floor windows wide open in the summer with no anxiety.

ShirleyPhallus · 02/02/2021 08:34

This thread is fascinating already, place marking for more interesting houses to come!

BerryPieandCustard · 02/02/2021 08:59

My husband is an Iraqi Kurd this is our house in his home city. It is very typical to other new homes across the country. The upstairs and downstairs are near copies of each other (so bathroom, kitchen, living space, bedrooms on each floor) there are also internal stairs.

Cultural tradition is that one of the younger male children and his wife/kids will live with the aging in laws. This way they live together but also have their own space.
My MIL lives on the lower floor (our bedroom when we visit also on the ground floor) and my BIL, his wife and 2 kids live upstairs. They have a front door at the top of the external stairs so they can come and go or receive guests- absolutely no o e has ever used it! It would be incredibly rude to bypass the downstairs inhabitants so everyone uses the lower floor entrance!

There is also a room in every home that only gets used for guests. There is another living area in the houses where family sit together (even family who don’t live in the house) the formal living room is only used for guests who are unrelated to you. Seems like a waste of a room to me as they are always the best decorated and furnished rooms in the house.... I break with tradition and sit in here!

It is also common to by the plot of land/old house and knock it down to re build and instead of building one house on top of the other build two houses that are a mirror copy with an interconnecting door internally.

Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
BerryPieandCustard · 02/02/2021 09:01

I forgot to say that 9 times out of 10 the formal living room has its own front door so guests can be shown straight in to that room and bypass and family mess/clutter in other parts of the house

Afromeg · 02/02/2021 09:05

we aren't on mains water (were in the last house though) and all our household water is rainwater collected from our roof. There is no filter on the water so we drink straight from the tanks, which I find so very weird, but is completely normal here. I honestly don't understand how more people don't get sick!. In summer it won't rain for weeks/months at a time and I can't help but think about 2 huge festering tanks in the garden and what might be breeding in them! We have a brita filter jug which eases my worries slightly! And yet no one seems to get sick off this water at all, and tank water is very common.

This has blown my mind because I had no idea such an issue would be found in a western "first world" country.

We have this issue in Nigeria, though we're on mains water too. Due to some mismanagement, services aren't always rendered, so everyone also has tanks, wells and boreholes for times of no running water. The richer you are, the more elaborate your borehole system (so that it basically pumps running water through the actual house taps, as well as a separate tap).

The tanks are basically reserves. There are water sellers who some hire to fill their tanks using their large water tanker trucks (see image) if it hasn't rained for a while and no running water to fill them up.

Most people boil their water first and filter them into storage containers, bottles, jugs, etc for drinking (and some, for bathing as well). People have gotten so used to it that they also do it with the mains water.

Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
TheElementsSong · 02/02/2021 09:19

I love threads like this!

My contribution from Malaysia, the sort of house my great-grandparents lived in:
gtwhi.com.my/our-work/shophouses/

Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
FraughtwithGin · 02/02/2021 09:57

Can only speak for Germany, but have noticed:

  1. Downstairs cloakroom often right beside the front door
  2. No airing cupboard
  3. No cupboard under the stairs (called a Harry Potter cupboard by my German husband, when we were house hunting)
  4. Often no separate dining-room

What I do like:

  1. Windows open inwards for cleaning and also tip for airing a room
  2. Shutters
  3. Cellars
  4. Plumbing for washing machine generally not in the kitchen
  5. Plugs in bathrooms for hairdryers, electric toothbrushes etc.
Empressofthemundane · 02/02/2021 09:59

@echt

Not Australia, Florida!

redcandlelight · 02/02/2021 10:17

netherlands:

  • 'shelf' toilets (see germany)
  • toilets separate from bathroom
  • stairs. and I mean STAIRS. very steep and very narrow
  • huge windows
  • older properties (turn of the century) often have a decorated 'sink' for holy water in the entrance.
LittleMy77 · 02/02/2021 10:27

@Afromeg we lived in the UK and didn’t have mains water growing up (my old village still doesn’t despite it being illegal not to have a potable supply!) it ran off the fields into holding tanks for the village. No filters, no cleaning or anything

If it didn’t rain in summer you didn’t have water. It also ran through farmers fields where they used fertilisers etc so god knows what was in it!

Sometimesonly · 02/02/2021 10:35

I live in a city in Italy and there is a huge variety. I live in a 1960s flat and I love the light and high ceilings. I would quite like to move to one of the 1500s/1600s buildings in the town centre with all the interesting nooks and crannies! I do miss internal windowsills like you get in the UK- all ours are on the outside.

Afromeg · 02/02/2021 10:35

Wow. I'm surprised! Isn't the council doing anything about it? Can't someone report this?

Afromeg · 02/02/2021 10:35

@LittleMy77

FatCatThinCat · 02/02/2021 10:40

Also common in older Swedish homes is an attic with stairs access like this. Ours are behind a door in the kitchen. The attic has a proper floor and would be used to hang out laundry to dry in the winter.

You can see a room at the end of the attic which is a summer bedroom. During winter it wouldn't be used. Our house is like this and the summer room was actually DD's bedroom. This mean she had to put her coat on to get to it in the winter as the attic was -20C.

Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)