Are tarot readers all fake

[Seetheseasomeday]

Erm a tarot reader told me my new relationship is bringing loads of warning cards out. She said there's another women in his life and he's unfairly comparing us.
She then said she pulled 7 of swords out of both decks and told me to look the card up but it's normally a negative card.

So I looked up the card and it's lies. Theft. Cheating etc.

She also said she can't see log term yet for us but he has good intentions. But told me to be wary and it won't be easy with him.

I just wondered how tarot cards work? How on earth can she see such negative things? I thought she'd be more focused on me but tore the man I'm with to shreds.

Thank you.

How much did she charge you as a matter of interest?
She also probably left a few titbits dangling...So you will be tempted to go back.
Also, " Self fulfilling Prophesy" what you believe will happen, will happen... and these people are masters of that manipulation., so can be quite dangerous, in fact. You could start to apply the Tarot interpretation to fit your life, it may insidiously sow seeds of doubt ...
Absolute gaslighting

I love tarot, I have my own set, and read them. Pre COVID I would do them for my friends too, obviously for free. They have found it useful, I have to say I have found them to be accurate on the years. Why don’t you buy a set for yourself, rather than paying out for readings?

I think the likelihood of some random cards pulled out of a pack accurately telling your future is about the same as the date of your birth dictating the same. There are far more than just twelve different life situations that all people fall into. I get, with cards, that the permutations could be almost limitless, but the meanings seem so vague and open to very wide interpretation.

I also agree that they read you more than they read the cards. If 'Death' comes up, they can look at your face and see your reaction. If you look worried, they might say that somebody close to you (it's not like you're going to care about your previous neighbour's milkman's hairdresser's aunt) might be in danger, whether of dying or just of some kind of misfortune; but if you look puzzled, it's "But Death isn't always negative at all: it can mean the end of an old problem and a bright new horizon looming". Translation: this card can mean pretty much anything, as can the others, probably.

I think it's also like when people attach specific reasons to basic colours to determine your character or circumstances - you're wearing red because you're a confident person, but it may be in a concerted effort to become more confident. You might also be communicating the message that you're angry with somebody or something, or that you're madly in love/hoping to find love/fearful of unrequited love, as red is the colour of the heart and of warm feelings in your blood. Never mind the possibility that you might have looked in your wardrobe, seen the red top and thought: "Yep, I like that one - that'll do for today".

As PPs have said, they'll pick up on quite obvious things and make a good guess. If you're very overweight, you might have decided on a wish to start getting healthy and/or have body confidence issues; if you're in your 90's, you've been concerned about aches and pains, you've lost a good friend in the last few years or are worried that you will soon. It could be anything at all.

If you have other concerns about your new DP, that's a separate issue to consider carefully; but making a decision based on this would make as much sense as getting angry with him/leaving him for something bad that he 'said' or 'did' in a dream you had.

Yeah, I get all my careers advice from people in tents at little country fairs. It is the secret of my success...

Hahahahaha

Why don’t you buy a set for yourself, rather than paying out for readings?

This, I cannot laugh at. It’s terrible advice. The OP is clearly quite gullible and now you are suggesting that she allows a pack of bloody cards to dictate her life choices?

@Seetheseasomeday

Erm a tarot reader told me my new relationship is bringing loads of warning cards out. She said there's another women in his life and he's unfairly comparing us. She then said she pulled 7 of swords out of both decks and told me to look the card up but it's normally a negative card.

So I looked up the card and it's lies. Theft. Cheating etc.

She also said she can't see log term yet for us but he has good intentions. But told me to be wary and it won't be easy with him.

I just wondered how tarot cards work? How on earth can she see such negative things? I thought she'd be more focused on me but tore the man I'm with to shreds.

Thank you.

Are you sure she's not seeing the same guy!? It does seem unusual for them to be quite that negative if only from a customer satisfaction POV (usually they want you to come back for more)

I’ve read tarot for years - the reader you’ve been to is piss poor and I hope you didn’t spend a lot of money. The cards are neutral - the idea that some cards are ‘good’ and some are ‘bad’ is peddled by those who prey on the vulnerable. Lots of so-called tarot readers are good at cold-reading - your body language and facial expressions give you away, and often you have given more information away in chatting with the reader than you think. The seven of swords is not a warning of deceit - depending on the type of spread and the cards surrounding it, it indicates that you are concerned that you may not be hearing the full story about a situation - the surrounding cards will show whether you should find out more and who from... The Fool generally indicates that you are at the start of a new situation and are setting out free of any expectations or pre conceived notions...

If you (and they) see it as a real predictive skill then yes I think that is fake.
If you and they see it as a way of putting something in front of you to get you thinking in different ways (and rejecting things obvs etc) then I think that may have a slightly useful function allowing different ways of sorting through stuff in your own mind.

I don't believe tarot cards can predict the future, etc, but I have found them useful as an aid to meditation for myself.

As people have said, they are generic enough that everyone could apply a card to their life and find something that matches.

It was online. She's not seen me. Only cost £6.95 for a 5 minute video reading.

I don't think I'm gullible. I am interested in how it works that's all.

I don't want to write too much about his life on here. But I don't think playing games is his thing. He's really not been involved with many women over the years. Only long term. Not slept with women since being single. He's just not like that. Has alot of respect for his ex too.

Yes.

Of course it’s fake! How can you even ask! If it worked it would be magic.
She’s a con women who read you well and is exploiting your vulnerabilities.
She’s a wicked, greedy, charlatan.

And the fact that you have handed over money for this does indicate that you are gullible, sorry, but most people realise it’s a scam.

Yes. I’m baffled that anyone could think it’s true, tbh.

all of these fortune tellers work the same way.

they are 'cold reading' you. In other words they are veyr skilled at watching your reactions and fitting their reading to your reactions.

It is not possible for her to tell the future.
Really.
Not.
No-one can do that, and if they could they would actually be able to do things like win loads of money betting.

It is FAKE and a SCAM.

Please don't spend any money on it!

I'm as woo as fuck but tarot? No way. Hokum.

I love that Tarot, have several decks, but there is no way they have any sort of magical ability. IMO Tarot is a great meditative practice, and can sometimes give insight, but (and this is the important bit) I do think you have to be the one handling the cards and have at least a vague idea of what the different cards signify and of the layout meanings - because that way when you shuffle you sort of know where the cards are and might subconsciously put them in the right order to give you an answer to a question that you know the answer to already (but maybe are finding it hard to filter out). Alternatively the "answers" you get might help clarify what you actually want.

As a form of fortune telling or understanding what other people think or feel? Definitely no

I think Tarot is complete nonsense.

However

I think you have doubts about this man. You paid for a Tarot Reading. You have now posted on MN. And keep posting about him like you are trying to reassure yourself he’s ok. And you keep repeating about him not being perfect.

You want reassurance from the Tarot reader and from MN that he is ok. The only reason why you keep asking appears to me to be because you are worried he is not ok. Listen to you intuition...

It was online. She's not seen me. Only cost £6.95 for a 5 minute video reading. I don't think I'm gullible. I am interested in how it works that's all.

It doesn't "work".
It's utter, utter bollocks.
Maybe you should look up the definition of gullible.

Every single one.

Also mediums, exorcists and everyone who heals people by waving their hands over them.

£6.95 for a five minute reading?

What unscrupulous bastards these people are, preying on the extremely gullible and intellectually challenged.

@Seetheseasomeday

It was online. She's not seen me. Only cost £6.95 for a 5 minute video reading.

I don't think I'm gullible. I am interested in how it works that's all.

I don't want to write too much about his life on here. But I don't think playing games is his thing. He's really not been involved with many women over the years. Only long term. Not slept with women since being single. He's just not like that. Has alot of respect for his ex too.

I don't think I'm gullible

And there lies the problem.

All fake.
The thing with tarot cards is they can help you think about issues, give you a start to begin unpicking what might be a problem in your life or give you a wee boost with a positive slant. It won't predict the future. But if you've been worrying away subconsciously about something it can help you crystallize what the issue is.

Cards can be read umpteen different ways. If you want to interpret them a certain way then fine. But don't make life decisions based on them.

I am very cynical about them and tarot readers. But I see that someone could use them as prompt cards if you ever need one in order to focus on an issue. So if you got the wotsit of swords the reading and interpretation is up to you. Do you think you have an issue in your relationship? Is there something that has been bothering you but you've ignored? If So, have a think. If No, then why would you dump someone based on how someone thinks your future might go.

If you are genuinely this gullible, you shouldn’t be even considering a relationship, OP.

That's a bit harsh. Loads of people are a bit vulnerable at some point in their lives, and fall prey to tarrot readers/homeopaths/kleeneze etc. Doesn't mean they shouldn't ever date.

I don't think I'm gullible.

I think, OP, if you want to improve your decision making (whether in relationships or otherwise) you need to accept that you are in this case- and probably others.

It's all nonsense. I do feel there might be the odd rare person who has some intuitive 'gift', but I would say 99% or more are charlatans.

I have a tarot deck, and have never charged for a reading.

I look it at like every card has a set meaning. The querant ("one who seeks"), asks a question or imagines an issue, picks their cards and puts them in a position that means something (past, present, future for example). Someone then tells the querent what the cards mean, or they look it up. They then reflect on their lives, and if anything they were told resonates or makes sense.

I started using them as a tool to explore my feelings, some aspects wouldn't be as applicable, others would make me think. Like astrology, I saw it as a fun "thoughts for the day" type experience, with just enough general universal truth per card, to make some aspect apply to most people.

The more I read the cards for myself and others though, the more I've realised they defy statistics. They really do, there are still cards relatives of mine pull all the time (pre-covid anyway), that I've never pulled myself. I've noticed a pattern in the sorts of cards various querents pull. A certain relative, plagued by debt gets the 6 of pentacles reversed quite often, another battling personal demons often pulls the devil. When I was in an abusive relationship, I pulled a lot of sword cards, and I've pulled the tower before, in the future position, and thought "oh no", then something quite drastic has happened.

There is something uncanny about them. A lot of relatives have refused readings, but I ask about them myself anyway, (usually when trying to get some insight, into how someone else might feel). Reading warned on several occasions at one point, not to let DS get too isolated, and that made me think, and I've kept it in mind.

The older I get, the less comfortable I feel admitting that there actually is something odd about them. I'm a rational, reasonable person, so I should think it's all a load of tosh. But it's the rational part of me, that can see the cards don't seem to follow the normal laws of probability. Like gamblers who either always seem to have crazy luck on their side, or never ever win, despite the odds.