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If Mull of Kintyre was a Xmas no 1, how come it never gets played at Xmas?

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ManWithARash · 28/12/2020 14:48

or am I just listening to the wrong stations?
I've only just discovered that it was number one in Xmas 1977, I think.

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deepbluesea18 · 07/01/2021 09:34

@NewspaperTaxis

John loved Paul. He wanted symbiosis - johnandpaul. Paul did not want symbiosis, hence his refusal to take LSD with John. When he finally agreed to do it, John was ‘the happiest he had ever been’, according to Pete Shotton. But it didn’t last because Paul left India early and then met Linda in New York, and John fell apart.

John’s biggest fear was that Paul would leave him. He expected it to happen because he’d been abandoned as a child, and because he knew that Paul wanted a family. He hated Yesterday because Paul wrote it without him and he saw the writing on the wall even then.

John used Yoko to try and - well, force Paul’s hand. If you watch part 2 of that documentary, it’s very clear. It’s inconceivable that Paul didn’t understand what John was doing, but he didn’t do what John wanted, which was fight Yoko for him. And because he didn’t do this, John’s behaviour got worse and worse.

Eventually John did the one thing guaranteed to get Paul’s attention - he messed with his music. He brought Phil Spector in to edit the Let It Be album behind Paul’s back, and Spector sabotaged Paul’s songs. Paul snapped and walked away, and John never forgave him.

Yoko knows that John was in love with Paul. She also knows that Paul wants to keep that quiet, so she uses it as leverage against him. She is horrible.

Callipygion · 08/01/2021 21:20

I’ve been in Beatle heaven watching those videos - thank you deepbluesea18! I have now been directed at some McCartney ones by same person, and am absolutely delighted to find the first one ends with ...... Mull of Kintyre! I love that song. 😁😁😁🎵

deepbluesea18 · 09/01/2021 01:37

Thank you so much for posting the link to the McCartney series, Callipygion. I hope the detractors above watch it and weep.

The problem with Mumsnet is that it’s full of the type of people Paul sang about in Hey Jude. They try to be cool, but they just end up making their own world colder. It’s actually quite sad.

Still, you, me and 9 million others can’t all be wrong about Mull of Kintyre 👍

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Maireas · 09/01/2021 06:30

Thank you, @deepbluesea18. I was getting quite fed up with the McCartney bashing! He's been an extraordinary and enduring song writer and performer, never having had the privilege of music training, but starting out as a teenager with a guitar. There always seemed to be an alchemy with him and John. Anyway, I'm very unfashionable but I like Mull of Kintyre!

woodhill · 09/01/2021 13:04

So do I and secretly the Frog Chorus😊

deepbluesea18 · 09/01/2021 13:15

@Maireas

Yes, how did that happen? How did these two ‘ordinary’ boys, with no musical training meet, write the songbook of the 20th Century, perhaps of all time, and change the world forever? It’s astonishing, biblical-like - you have wonder if it was preordained.

They weren’t ordinary boys, of course. They were brilliant boys and both of them were broken. That brokenness was a shared bond, but where John couldn’t heal, and where fame did him in, Paul’s optimism and resilience helped him to survive. He is an inspiration, not just because of the art he has put into the world, but for the way he has lived his life and for his enduring positivity in the face of unimaginable tragedy.

Not bad for a working class kid, who grew up on a council estate and had no musical training.

And I agree, Mull of Kintyre is brilliant and so is Silly Love Songs. Of course, I’m deeply uncool, but no way am I making my world colder. No thanks - the world is cold enough.

Maireas · 09/01/2021 13:23

I'm uncool as well, @deepbluesea18, and love Silly Love Songs. War babies, post war Liverpool, loss of mums, created and gifted young men, a changing music scene. Alchemy.
Paul McCartney has never been a tax exile, which is something of a rarity, and which I respect.

deepbluesea18 · 09/01/2021 13:55

Alchemy is a good word, @Maireas, and I defy any of the Mumsnet many not to see it in the below (ignoring the ghoul in the corner, of course):

m.youtube.com/watch?v=XswWhnANn94

Or not to feel joyous, watching the young John and Paul with their extraordinary blended voices (have any other two people in the history of popular music ever sounded as great as them?) :

m.youtube.com/watch?v=-K65wYAx-0Y

Maireas · 09/01/2021 14:02

Thank you for that! Totally harmonious, weren't they?
I remember walking somewhere quite remote in Borneo, and when the guide found out I was from England, he asked me about The Beatles! They certainly crossed cultural boundaries.

deepbluesea18 · 09/01/2021 19:00

Yes, like I said above, it’s just astonishing that John and Paul met and created this body of work that’s universal and timeless, extending across generations and cultures and forming part of the collective consciousness. Mind blowing.

woodhill · 09/01/2021 19:31

Just love the Beatles

Callipygion · 09/01/2021 19:38

Well I’ve sat and watched all the 5 McCartney documentary videos now. I can recommend them - I learned some new stuff. (Adverts interrupting were a tad annoying, but never mind).

I have to say that if you are one of those that thinks he’s overrated, try episode 5 where practically the world and his wife come along to say how fantastic they think he is, not only as a musician but also as a person. As one says, we are incredibly lucky to be here to see him first hand.

deepbluesea18 · 10/01/2021 17:29

@Callipygion

Allan Klein made sure that the rock music press turned against Paul when he released his first McCartney album in 1970. (He also paid them to write glowing reviews of All Things Must Pass, but that’s a different conversation 😉.) Then a drugged-up John, egged on by his appalling wife, blurted out all his grievances to fanboy, Jann Wenner, and Paul’s reputation as writer of ‘granny shit music’ was cemented by Rolling Stone.

Wenner instructed his writers to bin the positive reviews of McCartney 1 that were about to go to press (Paul was one of the first artists to produce an album on which he had played every instrument, and they had first of all lauded this as an amazing accomplishment) and to write instead that the album was crap.

Rolling Stone was incredibly influential and John Lennon was incredibly bitter, and Paul’s critical reputation hadn’t recovered by the time John was killed. Ironically, John hated Wenner for publishing the interview as a book (he regretted doing it by then and wanted it to disappear quietly), but that didn’t stop the Ono creature from teaming up with Wenner to trash Paul’s career when John was dead.

It’s hard to come back from that type of smear campaign, and it obviously affected Paul’s confidence and self-esteem. Worse still, he had to deal with the psychological and emotional devastation of John’s murder (and to read in the press that it should have been him) and then watch his wife die. Is it any wonder that he struggled for a few years?

Still, he is finally getting all the accolades he deserves, and at 78 years old has a number 1 album, which in itself is an astonishing achievement. In 200 years time, people will still be playing his music, which is mind blowing. Only Mumsnet has to catch up. Maybe they will have done so by then.

user1471565182 · 10/01/2021 18:02

Best ever Beatles fake news story...........

www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/mccartney-unable-to-end-live-version-of-hey-jude-20170810133837

Pipandmum · 10/01/2021 18:07

It's an awful song. But so is 'Wonderful Christmas Time' or whatever his other Christmas hit was called and that was played non stop it seemed.
Have to say I didn't hear Mariah once this time round and I love that song.

deepbluesea18 · 10/01/2021 18:40

@user1471565182

Admit it. That fella at 2:50 making a complete twat of himself for the world to laugh at - it’s you, isn’t it?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=9OZCaQju3xQ

Grow up.

MostIneptThatEverStepped · 10/01/2021 18:55

Only stepping in here to say thank you to those who reminded me of the 'Wacky Macca Thumbs Aloft' Smash Hits days. Sadly missed.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 10/01/2021 18:59

I love Mull of Kintyre, both the song and the film clip.

user1471565182 · 10/01/2021 23:58

Nah I wouldnt go see that crap live.

Callipygion · 11/01/2021 13:43

Hey @deepbluesea18 I’ve been browsing Beatle videos on YouTube (since your recommendation!) and found this one with loads of clips I’ve not seen before, including some footage of them doing A Midsummer Night’s Dream (I think). I’ve seen photos before but never any film. Anyway, the chap doing the intro/narrative - is that by any chance the actor who plays Jim (No, no, no - yes) from Vicar of Dibley??! 😁 What do you reckon? It was the way he spoke made me think I knew him from somewhere!

Callipygion · 11/01/2021 13:44

Should have said - it starts at around 45/46 mins.

deepbluesea18 · 11/01/2021 14:19

@Callipygion

Yes, the actor is Trevor Peacock.

The best Beatles story I can think of happened a few months after John was killed.

Paul was making his Tug of War album at George Martin’s studio in Montserrat, and he invited Carl Perkins to play with him on the album. Carl Perkins was one of the artists who inspired the Beatles when they were kids, so him being on this album was meaningful.

On his last day in Montserrat, Carl Perkins wrote a song, which came to him in a dream, and when he played the song to Paul, Paul broke down and had to leave the room. Linda told Carl Perkins that the words of the song were the last words that John spoke to Paul before he was killed.

The song is called My Old Friend:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=pWodfTLHwBA

The words were, ‘Think about me every now and then, my old friend.’

John had also written a song called Now and Then, which he recorded onto a tape marked ‘For Paul’.

How amazing is that?

Callipygion · 11/01/2021 14:25

That is a lovely story. Made me tear up listening to it.

deepbluesea18 · 11/01/2021 14:55

This is John’s Now and Then:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=0yYRWnzKow8

He uses the same chord structure as Dear Friend, which Paul wrote as an olive branch for John, asking the question, ‘Is it true?’

John starts this song with, ‘You know it’s true’.

He was so depressed without Paul. It was really tragic.

deepbluesea18 · 11/01/2021 16:14

@user1471565182

Obviously you must be right, and all those thousands of other people having a great time are the sad losers. LOL.

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