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We were up to 999 posts so thought we needed a new thread!

Where has the tier 5 theory come from, does anyone know?

On an unrelated note, after not that long here, I'm starting to see why MN is described as a nest of vipers. Obviously not this thread but elsewhere...

I found out earlier that when DS is with his dad he’s in tier 2 but when he walks the couple of minutes over to me we’re in tier 3. There is an odd housing estate which doesn’t come under the local town, its classed as another council.

Some of the suggestions on the Tier 5 thread are bonkers. Tracking apps! Really. I am concerned about pigeons though - there’s one sat on the pillar outside looking a bit suspect!

The litmus test is hospitalisations and excess deaths, cases mean nothing imo.

Gove said this morning teaching staff are organised for the return to school. I see little anecdotal evidence of this on here and elsewhere. They're no wiser than us. Did the government forget to press send when writing emails?

Tier 5? What would that even mean? Not allowed to look our yer bedroom window? No breathing outside? Masks inside? I mean there's not right far left to go after tier 4 is there?

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Tier 5? What would that even mean? Not allowed to look our yer bedroom window? No breathing outside? Masks inside? I mean there's not right far left to go after tier 4 is there?

Unfortunately there is. Look at France, Spain, Italy....Melbourne!

Where is this legendary tier 5 thread?! I am fascinated.

What would be different about tier 4 and tier 5 anyway? Surely there's little else that can be closed.

We've spent the last 2 days merrily visiting tier 2 eating out and spending money. We're tier 3. It was fun. I wouldn't normally eat out at Christmas (as we have so much food) but I'm anticipating everything closing shortly so feel like we have to do it now. I'm hoping to fit a trip to the tier 2 museum in on Wednesday but that's weather dependent as I'm not a lover of ice.

Today has been an unexpected snow day! We had warnings last night but I took no notice as we never get any. We last had snow you could build with in 2018 so DS was very excited. We made a selection snowmen/people in the front and back garden. Started before it got light. I went out to add to them around 9am and the snow had gone all frozen and rubbish so I'm glad we started when we did.

I briefly looked into the thread on 'tier 5'. Yes, being 'forced' to download a tracking app. Apart from the many people that don't have smart phones, or ones that are up to date, how do you force someone to download an app? The mind boggles. I only infrequently look at those threads, but I honestly think a lot of the posting is done by bored teenagers. At least I hope so, because if they are all adults it's a bit worrying.....

@Reedwarbler

I briefly looked into the thread on 'tier 5'. Yes, being 'forced' to download a tracking app. Apart from the many people that don't have smart phones, or ones that are up to date, how do you force someone to download an app? The mind boggles. I only infrequently look at those threads, but I honestly think a lot of the posting is done by bored teenagers. At least I hope so, because if they are all adults it's a bit worrying.....

Sorry, they're adults

If you have a smartphone, the enforced app would be getting the companies to install it.

I'm thinking at some point dumbphones will no longer be supported by networks but I thought that was coming anyway, as a decision by the networks.

The Tier 5 thread is actually laugh out loud hilarious in places.

@Reedwarbler god I hope you're right about the bored teenagers.

The zoo's have opened here (tier 4). I'm going to four different ones this week to get the kids out. If we aren't all down with covid by the end of the week then it'll be a miracle

Some of the suggestions on the Tier 5 thread are bonkers. Tracking apps! Really. I am concerned about pigeons though - there’s one sat on the pillar outside looking a bit suspect!

We had some weird insects in our garden over the summer that looked a bit like horseflies but would hover over you for ages but then suddenly turn 180 degrees and shoot off. DD and I were calling them Government drone insects.

Here's an analysis of Wales by David Paton highlighting that positive test results decreased before closing schools could have had an impact mobile.twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1343555830814285824

@AcornAutumn if that was the case I probably wouldn't bother with a mobile phone at all. I only have a dumb phone and there are still many, many rural areas with poor coverage/reception where a landline is essential. It always amuses me to see the look of horror on people faces when their smart phones don't work here and they have to connect via our hub. I read somewhere that compared to many countries (and much poorer ones at that) our availability of good reception for mobile phones (outside towns and cities) is generally considered to be a bit third world.
On a completely different subject my dog is very upset because there is shooting going on near the house, and she, of course, thinks it's fireworks. There seems to be a lot more shooting this year, so the shoots must be coining it in. There has been shooting just about every day this past week, including duck shooting at dusk on Christmas day. Much more shooting than previous years anyway.

I heard shooting on Christmas Day... it was a bit late to let it hang for Christmas dinner

Last year, on Christmas Eve, we had the pheasants that I'd filleted after aquiring a brace while picking DS1 up from Cubs. The DCs would not come within 50m of me dangling them like macabre puppets

Waves at everyone - hope you all had a good Christmas.

My asthma been bad today so I've not got anywhere near as much done as I wanted. It's been a while since I've had this but DH managed to remind me how annoying it is when I'm stuck gasping for breath to be constantly asked if I'm Okay .

I've been trying to make a top over Christmas and it's taxing my meagre sewing skills and while I'm whittering about slightly modifying the pattern as the book instructs DD1 - has modified and finished a lace skirt and done completely her own style of top with puffy victorian sleeves. Not sure she done much revision though. DD2 finished a teddy bear and DS has started some embroidery. It's DH fault watching you tubers - many are historical sewers they are very inspiring. DD1 is now keen to add pockets of sedition to her school skirts.

I see your cheese balls and i raise you Tesco Turkey and Stuffing Bites. Little ball shaped crisps.

I've not been on for a day and now people are talking about Tier 5. An exercise in martial law that seems to have been made up by bored journos at The Sun from what I can see.

It truly frightens me the number of people who are clamouring to give up their liberties, and take away everyone else's, with scant thought as to whether their desire for boots on the ground, tracking apps and Laser-Equipped Robot Surveillance Pigeons would even work, not to mention the harm it would cause.

It goes back to something we've talked about on here before: all roads lead to more lockdown. Cases going up? Well, you were naughty and went to The Range so it's lockdown for you. Cases going down? That's proof that lockdown works so have some more of it.

Depressing.

Oh, and on more pleasant subjects...

Reaper Man was my gateway drug for Terry Pratchett too.

We had cheese balls crisps last year - one of our cats took to licking them so we all had to watch our plates else she'd sneak up and lick. It's not normal behavior for her - our food is usually not coveted.

@MercyBooth

I see your cheese balls and i raise you Tesco Turkey and Stuffing Bites. Little ball shaped crisps.

OMG they're like crack aren't they! Smell vile but sooooo moreish

Reed do you mean people don't get phone or internet signal or both?

@NastyBlouse You're so right about "all roads lead to lockdown". I think vaccine adds to that as well (temporarily, I hope!!!!), in that "the only option is lockdown until enough people have been vaccinated", whereas previously it might have been acceptable to declare "we will have to live alongside the virus". It was also so fucking cunning of Bojo or whoever is really in charge to cancel Christmas just after the MPs had gone home. Are any of them going to rebel, having been sidelined?

Hopefully all this "tier 5" nonsense is part of the scaremongering to stop people mixing over new year, now that Christmas has come and gone. Were there any protests on Christmas day? (I'm not going to ask the BBC that.) It would have been the perfect day for them, while the police were busy being peeping toms in London, or blocking roads, even if they said they wouldn't.

I honestly think the media should be properly held to account for some of their scare-mongering, sensationalist coverage of this pandemic.

It was exactly the same during the Influenza A which I cannot remember what it was called in English - piles of bodies on the streets there were going to be and all that.

There are press standards and I'm pretty sure that warping facts to scare the shit out of the more impressionable public does not meet them!

I hate to be that person who says "but in X other country, everything is better" but in France this is NOT ALLOWED. And therefore doesn't happen. If you go on France 24, there will be some very dull, mundane coverage of the latest Covid issues/incidents and then some actual coverage of actual other things happening in the country and the world.

Why do we let the press get away with this?!