Are there still serial killers today?

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I'm just watching the Yorkshire ripper documentary. All the famous serial killers seem to be 1960s-1980s, Dennis Nielsen, moors murderers, Ted bundy, zodiac. Are modern ones just not publicised the same?

CCTV and DNA.

Spree killers are the new serial killers.

I would also say there may e a decline in serial killers because of better child social care.

That's certainly played a part. It's much harder for a child to just go missing and nobody cares. If you look through the lists of John and Jane Does in the USA it's shocking.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unidentified_murder_victims_in_the_United_States

They recently identified one young Jane Doe whose body was found in the 80's. Parents were separated and lived at opposite ends of the country and didn't speak to one another and both thought she was with the other parent.

I am listening to a Michael Connelly podcast:

The women who stopped Sam Little.

It's chilling.

One of the real life detectives who is central to the podcast is also the inspiration for one of Connelly's fictional characters.

@Bigpaintinglittlepainting I was born & raised in London in a then rough part so those things are second nature. I still wouldn't short cut through a park at night, or wear my headphones walking alone.

However don't forget you are much more likely to be raped &/or be murdered by someone you know. Not sure that is a comfort!

Sam Little typifies those victims who are "less dead" ( is that the term)
And how police negligence because the women he killed simplybdidnt matter. I hope that has changed. Even a little bit?

@dayswithaY I wasn't try to be condescending & agree there are some positives. However there are unsavoury elements eg graphic descriptions, photos on the internet etc that I know I would feel uncomfortable with if it was my loved one.

I have a real issue with people filming victims in the aftermath of a terror atrocity etc for the same reasons.

@lottiegarbanzo Good point, no way is Harold Shipman seen in the same light as Ted Bundy. Is it because of his victims, the violence used?

@lottiegarbanzo

Tying press glorification and the police misogyny that stymied the YR investigation together (as was the case); perhaps the press no longer sees playing a part in the blatant glorification of misogyny as a big selling point, in the way that it used to.

A big part of the 'enjoyment' of reading about serial killers, as daily news and speculation while cases are 'live', is on the part of unpleasant male fantasists, who would love to do the same if they could get away with it. As well as the common or garden type who just loved using these stories as bogeymen with which to control the women in their lives; 'you can't go out alone, or ... will get you'.

I find a lot of women are bizarrely fascinated by serial killers/murderers. At the extremes, all of those crazies writing love letters to convicted killers (Chris Watts is apparently very popular now 🤮)

A big part of the 'enjoyment' of reading about serial killers, as daily news and speculation while cases are 'live', is on the part of unpleasant male fantasists, who would love to do the same if they could get away with it.

I definitely think there is an element of this. I read a good article some yrs ago about how rapes & murders on TV, film generally feature females & it's often quite gratuitous in the way it's filmed.

They think Bible John is Peter Tobin, he lived on that area at that time.

The amount of bodies pulled from both bath and bristol inner city waterways in the last 10 years is highly suspicious despite police saying they are not related and they are not looking for anyone in connection with them. Often there is a “spate” of them where numerous bodies will be found within a couple of months of each other, before it all goes quiet again for a while. I find it hard to believe they are all accidental drownings.

At the extremes, all of those crazies writing love letters to convicted killers

Now that is fascinating, what on earth is the motivation to get married to a killer in jail?

Is 'the pusher' real?

@lolaflores

Sam Little typifies those victims who are "less dead" ( is that the term) And how police negligence because the women he killed simplybdidnt matter. I hope that has changed. Even a little bit?

Connelly's fictional protagonist (Harry Bosch) maintains that "everybody matters or nobody matters"

The most recent episodes are a round table discussion with the detective, prosecutor and journalist pivotal to the case (all women) and they discuss this at some length.

@jillypill

Yes that’s it, it’s rare, but I still want to be safe I am careful about men I know too.

Actually after watching true crime I can’t watch fictional crime, it’s too much

How many victims of the "pusher" has there been? I remember on a tour in Amsterdam I was told it was really common for people to fall in the canals. Particularly for men who piss when drunk & loose their balance. About 20 drown a yr I think.

JILLYPILL hubriphilia (I think that's thevspelling) is the term I believe attributed to this behaviour. Last Pod Cast on the Left did an episode called the women who love them.
Ted Bundy proposed to his girlfriend while she was on the stand in his trial!!!!
She said yes
Watch the women who turned up for the trial fo Richard Ramirez.....insane.

So weird!

Part of the fallout over the Wests was more cross agency work. One would hope that more joined up thinking had led to people being caught before becoming serial murderers. That and improvements in forensic science.

It wouldn’t surprise me if some where operating under the radar. Especially in Leeds where there is the “managed” zone..

How many vulnerable girls are going missing but don’t have a support net work to notice or they get reported but we still have the same regards for these women as portrayed in the doc, so nobody cares

Lolafloris Ted Bundy married His girlfriend whiten she was on the stand at his trial!

"Why were tennis and wrestling so popular in the 70s but aren't now?"

That is a really grim observation. That particular type of serial killer is just unfashionable now. Ties in with the glorification of that type in the press in the past. Now maybe those misogynist 'clever' killers are the ones who become incels and do a mass killing instead.

Apocalypse nowt no he proposed to her and she accepted

There’s a paediatric nurse being investigated at the moment. If charged and found guilty she will be classed as a serial killer

A man in Korea recently confessed to the rape and murder of 14 women. He couldn't be prosecuted for the murders, because more than 10 years had passed. An innocent man was in prison for life, having been found guilty of one of the murders.
Shows how wrong it is to have a time limit on the prosecution of serious crimes.