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Is it legal to cut someone else’s hair without them knowing ?

231 replies

Lardlizard · 10/12/2020 14:12

Is this an actual crime ?

OP posts:
Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 12/12/2020 20:01

[quote SoupDragon]@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum you need to read the whole thread[/quote]
Probably but I find it better to read the initial post with these ones. Else you want to bang your head against the wall with the calls to get police involved. It's a school matter and school have to deal with it. All personal experience from meaningful people are their personal experiences. Not the children involved.

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/12/2020 20:01

Well hair is also magic, as we know.

Also needs to be stored in an unggue pot.

Retiremental · 12/12/2020 20:04

@cansu

Phoning the police would be ridiculous. They will not investigate this as assault. Make an appointment. Speak to the head and ensure that he is given a consequence in line with what he has done.
RTFT
nancybotwinbloom · 12/12/2020 20:06

@MrsTerryPratchett

That is an invaluable point.

How long will the hair take to grow back.

What a little twat.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 12/12/2020 20:27

@SweetPetrichor

Well, I think my point stands, considering how flustered all these posters are about being emotionally attached to hair! I think you’ve just backed up the whole point. Wink To be fair, I can see the cultural and religious reasons for being attached to hair but for the rest of us, not so much.

Maybe I am deeply unpleasant. Who knows. I think I’m doing okay, honestly. Grin

So people are allowed to be emotionally attached to their hair if they believe in an imaginary man in the sky (or equivalent) but no one else can?

It was not his hair to cut.

He assaulted her. That's not me exaggerating; that's the law.

Read more and expand your mind.

justasmalltownmum · 12/12/2020 20:42

Yes it is assault. This happened when we were at school. Friend felt a tug on her hair, turned around and found a good chunk of her hair on the floor.
The teachers spoke to the two students that sat behind her but as no one confessed or saw anything, nothing happened.

SoupDragon · 12/12/2020 20:43

Probably but I find it better to read the initial post with these ones

So you've missed what the OP has done then.

DreadingSeason2020sFinale · 13/12/2020 02:20

I am a total bitch because there really is a small part of me that honestly wishes that these people saying it's no big deal, it's just hair, you should not be emotionally attached to your hair blah blah blah... get theirs snipped. A proper Jackass style random clipper attack taking a chunk out. Then come back and if they're still saying that utter bollocks then I'll believe they mean the shit that they spout.

Lofari · 13/12/2020 02:47

Good on you OP. If someone did this to my daughter I would go ballistic.
Also, on the flip side, if my son ever did this to anyone I would tear him a new one.

Suzi888 · 13/12/2020 05:29

Really glad to read that the OP has reported it to the police.
Can’t believe so many posters think it’s acceptable. Confused

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 13/12/2020 07:00

@Suzi888

Really glad to read that the OP has reported it to the police. Can’t believe so many posters think it’s acceptable. Confused
So many posters who have never had it happen to them think it's acceptable... Which just tells me those posters lack empathy,
peanutbutter00 · 13/12/2020 07:06

I don't know if someone has already said this but lots of people actually confuse assault and battery. The common usage of assault means to hit or harm someone but the legal definitions are a bit different

Assault - an act that causes the victim to apprehend the infliction of immediate unlawful force (think raising a fist, threatening 'I'm going to hit you')

Battery - the application of unlawful force (actually hitting the person)

ABH - an assault and/or battery that causes injury, or interferes with the 'health or comfort of the victim' also, it does not need to be permanent injury or hurt

MacDuffsMuff · 13/12/2020 07:34

Some of these comments are interesting. It does make me consider what those who think that this assault on a child is no big deal were like at school themselves.

BerriesAndPineCones · 13/12/2020 08:02

I suspect some posters on this thread are inadequate men who think they should be allowed to do whatever they like to women unpunished.

PamsterWheel · 13/12/2020 08:22

To the posters saying "it's just hair. Duh!" Etc.

It's no about the hair per se it's about boundaries and respect. What next for this boy if he's allowed to get away with it?

I'm sure he and his mates thought it was hilarious but doesn't the girl have the right to have the support of the school that this invasion of her boundaries is not acceptable?

It's not funny for her. How would you feel if a man sat behind you on the bus and cut off your hair? Would feel shocked and treated with utter disregard. Or would you think oh hahahaha that's hilarious?

Also brushing this type of behaviour off smacks of 'boys will be boys' yes, because you fucking LET them.

Retiremental · 13/12/2020 09:02

@MacDuffsMuff

Some of these comments are interesting. It does make me consider what those who think that this assault on a child is no big deal were like at school themselves.
Yep. I’ve already made the point that you can spot the school bullies a mile away. As well as those raising the current generation of bullies.
MacDuffsMuff · 13/12/2020 09:13

Yep. I’ve already made the point that you can spot the school bullies a mile away. As well as those raising the current generation of bullies.

Completely agree @Retiremental. I work in a school and some of the posts on here are almost identical to the excuses some parents make for their child's appalling behaviour towards another child. I've heard them all.

MacDuffsMuff · 13/12/2020 09:15

Phoning the police would be ridiculous. They will not investigate this as assault. Make an appointment. Speak to the head and ensure that he is given a consequence in line with what he has done.

That's just not true @cansu. They absolutely will investigate.

Teapotuser · 13/12/2020 16:53

Yes , the offending child should get a bollocking . But assault and the police!! Ffs!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

BerriesAndPineCones · 13/12/2020 17:05

I'm afraid the High Court have ruled that it's assault whether you like it or not.
www.google.com/amp/s/www.business-live.co.uk/economic-development/unwanted-haircut-assault-say-judges-3987954.amp
Glad the police are taking it very seriously op

JoeCalFuckingZaghe · 13/12/2020 17:20

@Teapotuser

Yes , the offending child should get a bollocking . But assault and the police!! Ffs!!!!😂😂😂😂😂
There was the opportunity for said criminal little shitbag “child” to get a bollocking when OPs daughter told the teacher. However teacher failed to act appropriately so OP reported this CRIME (and it is a crime whether your internal bully agrees or not) and has said this is now a legal matter. If more parents raised their children not to be feral little twatwaffles then maybe, just maybe, parents wouldn’t need to take action like this.

But carry on victim blaming.

mbosnz · 13/12/2020 17:31

Given how many people seem utterly ignorant of the legal reality that yes, cutting someone's hair without their consent or knowledge does constitute a criminal act for which they could be held criminally liable, perhaps the real people that need to learn a lesson, is those that were seemingly ignorant of that fact? And that their precious offspring need to be alerted to this reality, and made away that it's not Mummy and Daddy that will make the decision as to whether it makes it to the police or not, if it's that bad or not, but possibly somebody else's extremely pissed off Mummy or Daddy who is disinclined to care about the future of the 13 year old who thought they had the right to vandalise another individual's person?

Tehmina23 · 13/12/2020 19:09

Hair cutting can be a sign of a psychopath with a fetish as well as of a bully....

In the late 90s there were a few episodes of women having hair cut off on buses locally to my home by a strange man.

Then there was a very gruesome murder of a local woman.... and police found some of the cut off hair from the women on the buses placed on or near her body.

Luckily the total psychopath was caught before he murdered again - it turned out he'd murdered a schoolgirl plus cut the hair of strangers in his home country, but not been caught there!!

Also hair is of historic importance to women as a sign of femininity.

The Nazis shaved the heads of female death camp victims to degrade them & make them feel less human. (As well as to use the hair to make cloth).
The French Resistance shaved the heads of female Nazi collaborators again to insult their femininity & make them stand out amongst other women.

Many women (myself included) who have lost hair to medication, chemo or alopecia will know how hurtful & upsetting it is to your sense of self.

So for a man or boy to attack a young woman's hair is to attack her in more than just a physical way.

To those who just don't get it, try having empathy.

SelfIcellation · 13/12/2020 19:46

If my DD had a chunk of hair cut off by ANYONE without her express consent I'd go ballistic. Hair is cultural, hair is a way to express ourselves, hair is our identity, hair is our crowning glory.

Hair does grow back but the victim now has to look at that every day until it grows out (lovely reminder!) or get a stylist to cut it so it doesn't show so much. By minimising this attack the boy thinks, oh, that was a laugh, I can do that to someone else!

Yes it's assault! Bullying too!

If my child cut another child's hair I would still go ballistic at them, and yes, I would make them see that the police have every right to caution them or get charged. Because a responsible parent cannot ignore that their child's actions have consequences, or how are they ever going see right from wrong?

Teapotuser · 13/12/2020 21:50

Haven't the police for more important things to do ? I'm not victim blaming. Its just a bit pathetic really. I know hair is your identity .......blah blah....... You can correct hair, grow it back. Ok maybe not the point. The point should be it shouldn't of been done. Ok . But the person isn't going to be scarred for life. Assault? Way over the top. Psychopath in the making! ? Please. 😂😂😂😂

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