How do you pronounce 'theatre'?

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Do you pronounce the a?

How do pronounce adhesive?
Do you pronounce the H?

Why do so many people add in r's where there isn't one 😆. It's a particular bug bear of mine

@midnightstar66

Why do so many people add in r's where there isn't one 😆. It's a particular bug bear of mine

I think it’s just to show pronounciation, there’s not an r sound when they say it.

I can’t work out how to show it without an rrr

Thee ehg ter? Maybe?

Because in a non rhotic accent the rrrs aren’t prominent, so I don’t bother to think about how it is in someone else’s accent. Eg I say cah and car the same.

Thee ah ter surely?

Because in a non rhotic accent the rrrs aren’t prominent, so I don’t bother to think about how it is in someone else’s accent. Eg I say cah and car the same.

I'm Scottish, we say our r's so if I see thee arr ter that's how it sounds complete with r sound. My dad does however add r sounds all over the place so it is a thing. Some people will actually say the r

THEER-tah
Ad-EE-siv.

Sadly I can't remember ! So much time has passed since they were open

@midnightstar66

Because in a non rhotic accent the rrrs aren’t prominent, so I don’t bother to think about how it is in someone else’s accent. Eg I say cah and car the same.

I'm Scottish, we say our r's so if I see thee arr ter that's how it sounds complete with r sound. My dad does however add r sounds all over the place so it is a thing. Some people will actually say the r

Ah ok. I think most people here are just using ar to show ah though.

We need to use proper pronunciation symbols like in the dictionary

@midnightstar66

Why do so many people add in r's where there isn't one 😆. It's a particular bug bear of mine

Because we’re showing how we pronounce it. Not how it’s spelled.

The first sound “ea” without the r in my accent would be pronounced “ee”. I don’t pronounce it th-ee-tuh, I pronounce it th-ear-tuh.

DH says thee-A-ta.
I thought he was doing a comedy posh voice each time for the first ten years.

Turns out that's just how he speaks (Essex). He also says bald like 'bowel-d".

I say thee-uh-tuh like a normal person.

The first sound “ea” without the r in my accent would be pronounced “ee”. I don’t pronounce it th-ee-tuh, I pronounce it th-ear-tuh.
🤯

Thee eight ar

@midnightstar66

The first sound “ea” without the r in my accent would be pronounced “ee”. I don’t pronounce it th-ee-tuh, I pronounce it th-ear-tuh. 🤯

😆 why the 🤯?

“ea” is the sound in sea, tea, plea. The first syllable of theatre does not rhyme with those words. It rhymes with ear, dear, rear. Hence the use of an r to indicate that difference.

Obviously people with rhotic accents would pronounce the r rather than using it to elongate the vowels in front, but as the majority of accent in this country are non rhotic, the fact that people don’t pronounce the r shouldn’t be a surprising concept?

If there is a way of phonetically writing the ‘ear’ sound without the use of the letter r, I’m...er...all ears (sorry!), but I can’t think of one. “eah” would be two syllables.

Theer-tuh

Add-ee-siv

@dementedpixie

Theer-ter Ad-hesive (yes I sound the H)

This

Have googled rhotic accent and am still none the wiser on what it means.

Thee-a-tuh or theer-tuh depending on whether or not I'm tired and mumbling.

Add-he-sieve

@zigaziga

Have googled rhotic accent and am still none the wiser on what it means.

Rhotic accents actively pronounce the r in words. American accents are rhotic. Scottish accents are. South West England. Most English accents are non rhotic. Think of the difference between an American saying car and a generic Southern English accent pronouncing it.

Theer-ter.

Thee-ayter is certain-accents American, isn’t it? I’d be startled to hear a Brit pronounce it like that.

Rhotic here. It makes sense that non-rhotic speakers soften out the r but I am sometimes surprised by how strongly pronounced the substitutions are, if that makes sense? How definite the r sound is when people add it, as in theerr-taah, with a strong r and then no hint of the original r remaining.

This thread is bringing back some horrible memories. I came from a WC/non-educated background but was deemed clever enough to end up in a posh school, surrounded by children of academics and professionals. I was aware that the way I spoke would often give me away but didn't realise quite so much until, during an English class, where I was giving a talk about a play, one of my so-called friends suddenly yelled out in front of everyone "can't you pronounce theatre properly, who taught you to speak like that?". Everyone fell about laughing and I was utterly humiliated. I was a "thee-ate-urr" pronouncer, with the emphasis on the second syllable, until that point but learned that it was "thee-uh-tr" from then on. Unfortunately, I not only had to spend the next 4 years of school with people randomly asking me to say theatre but, once I'd got the correct pronunciation into my head, my mum went off on me for speaking like a posh twat.

I've never yet been pulled up on my pronunciation of adhesive though and yes, I pronounce the h.

I'm east-coast Scotland if that helps.

Thea-tur

Adi-sive

Theerter
Ad-ee-siv

Fear-uh. Midlands girl. Have to try to remember that Ts and the ends of words exist.

Ad-ee-siv

Thee a Tur

Add hee sieve

Fee at er