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Would you attend a peaceful protest if a convicted paedophile moved into your street?

807 replies

thefourgp · 11/11/2020 21:04

I’ve never attended anything similar before and I’m in two minds about going. He was convicted (I’ve read the newspaper articles which show his photo) and has been released after serving half his sentence. I don’t know if he owns the property but he’s moved in with his wife who stood by him. There’s a peaceful protest being arranged. Would you go?

OP posts:
DrDavidBanner · 13/11/2020 08:33

I think what this thread has taught us is that it really is a man's world.

Men can do anything they like to people, however destrictive and harmful and all we can do is tip toe around them and hope they don't strike us, and they know it, and they are comfortable with it. So the world will never change.

Paedophiles and rapists deserve their freedoms to be integrate and be a full part of society, meanwile there are posters on here who can't allow their children out of their sight or even let them play in their own back garden! But we've decided as a society that this is all fine and normal.

So there we have it. This is a man's world and women and children are here to serve men whatever their cost.

PutBabyInTheCorner · 13/11/2020 08:39

@howaboutholly other prisoners most definitely do have a pecking order with paedophiles and child murderers right at the bottom.
It's no coincidence they're kept away from other prisoners. In a case I dealt with a prisoner, also a scumbag but not a paedophile, murdered a paedophile. He was seen as a hero by the public. In another case a man who raped a one-year-old was released from prison and the community protested. He was housed and monitored closely despite anger from the community. Thousands was spent on keeping him safe. Eventually he was rearrested after images of children being abused were discovered on his computer.
Just to add the justice system is so powerless to help victims of sexual abuse adequately many people feel the law is not on their side.
Mumsnet is a funny place which thankfully doesn't reflect the world I live in. Comments such as 'I'd rather live next door to a paedophile even with young children than break the law' and 'everyone deserves a chance to be rehabilitated' are interesting. I've dealt with many and just to be clear paedophiles can't be reformed. They can be monitored but their urges don't disappear. They are monsters that don't belong in society but unfortunately they are released to ultimately commit more crimes and the public has every right to be unhappy about that.

Mintjulia · 13/11/2020 08:41

Incidentally, when I was a 11 or 12, it wasn't the well-known town "weirdo" I had to fight off, it was the fathers of one or two of my school friends!

A less hysterical but more consistent approach to childcare is much more effective.

howaboutholly · 13/11/2020 08:47

I didn’t say they didn’t have a pecking order.

I said that they didn’t have morals about it in the way that you meant. Like the killing of Richard Huckle Paul Fitzgerald is such a hero, isn’t he?

calamityjam · 13/11/2020 08:50

Yes and have done. He was convicted for the rape of a young teenage girl. They moved him into a house which backs on to the primary school. Their excuse was that his preference was teenagers Hmm we held a very peaceful protest outside his house as most of us have girls in that age bracket. The council sneaked him out of the back door and re homed him in another LA. Which was what they should've done in the first place instead of 3 miles from where he committed the crime and everyone knew him

doingitforthefrill · 13/11/2020 09:51

He raped a child, the only place this vile man should be living is in a police cell - well even that would be too good for him.

I don’t believe anyone can recover from being a paedophile.

I would do the protest 100%.

PheasantPlucker1 · 13/11/2020 10:01

BananaPop because its simply not true. Of course there are people who think child rape is fine, they are the child rapists like in one OP mentioned. And his wife.

Why should anyone have to tolerate living near that? Where those two sick fucks live isnt my concern, nor should it be anyone elses, as long as its as far away from the rest of society as possible.

howaboutholly · 13/11/2020 10:11

That’s really practical isn’t it pheasant Hmm

SoupDragon · 13/11/2020 10:24

Of course there are people who think child rape is fine

Show me one on this thread. Which is what you implied.

Ketrina · 13/11/2020 10:26

:11PolPotNoodle

aurynne

I wouldn't peacefully protest.

I would peaceful knock on his door and kindly explain to him every single part I would rearrange in his body if he ever as much as glanced in the direction of any child I ever knew. With a smile on my face, of course.

And with any luck you'd be peacefully taken for a night in a cell, not that I believe you'd actually do that.

With any luck, she wouldn't. I would applaud her.

howaboutholly · 13/11/2020 10:31

It’s complete bollocks to claim an average woman would be able to rearrange every part in a mans body, unlessaurynne is the size of Miss Trunchbull.

buildingbridge · 13/11/2020 10:33

No. I think that's horrible, I will just keep very very very far away from him.

buildingbridge · 13/11/2020 10:34

Be more worried about the ones you don't know

This 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Ketrina · 13/11/2020 10:37

Pointless response, really, given that we don't have the death sentence and, even when we did, it would not have been applied to paedophiles

Hardly. I'm saying that's what I feel should happen. Whether we have the DP or whether it would have been applied them in the past is irrelevant to that really.

wellthatsunusual · 13/11/2020 10:57

Comments such as 'I'd rather live next door to a paedophile even with young children than break the law'

There's a reason why people think that. No one wants to live next door to a paedophile, except perhaps a fellow paedophile I suppose.

But I'd certainly think most people's children would be safer living next door to a paedophile with a vigilant and loving parent there to keep them safe than they would be in the care system whilst that loving parent serves a prison sentence. Similarly a child with a caring and vigilant parent living next to a known paedophile is a hell of a lot safer than a neglected child, perhaps craving affection, living next to a paedophile who has gone off the radar.

It's not about thinking that paedophiles deserve a second chance and everyone should be nice to them. They certainly don't need to be on anyone's Christmas card list. But it's about what course of action keeps children safer. If you support vigilante action the motive is not about protecting children, it's about punishment. And yes, in an ideal world these people would be punished much more severely than they are at present, but that's a separate (albeit related) issue to the one of protesting outside someone's house.

MrsJunglelow · 13/11/2020 10:59

It’s complete bollocks to claim an average woman would be able to rearrange every part in a mans body, unlessaurynne is the size of Miss Trunchbull
So off topic but I knew a woman who I think could have taken on most men.
She was a bouncer and god I was so in awe of her!
I’m as nervy as they come and shake after mere cross words with someone.
She was amazing.

howaboutholly · 13/11/2020 11:01

Yes, most average women are bouncers, of course, how silly of me.

MrsJunglelow · 13/11/2020 11:13

Yes, most average women are bouncers, of course, how silly of me
Why do you have to be so rude?
Seriously?
Attacking people over their use of an extremely popular word to describe paedophiles despite the words being an abbreviation of the full term and a descriptive term for someone attracted to children and now getting the hump over me mentioning an amazing woman I was awe of?
I never said most women were bouncers, just that I knew one and she was amazing.
I hope you aren’t as unpleasant in real life.

AlternativePerspective · 13/11/2020 11:20

Oh the irony of people who think that murder, threats, and any other violence is perfectly ok complaining that someone is being unpleasant to them....

JanewaysBun · 13/11/2020 11:22

I would rather be the person who lives near him now and knows what he is vs the person who will one near him when he goes underground and drops off police radar.

howaboutholly · 13/11/2020 11:26

If you have interpreted it as an attack, that is your issue, not mine. I have not attacked anybody, I have pointed out that the use of particular words minimise and diminish a serious and ongoing issue. Especially when they are not even spelled correctly.

I was sarcastic then because i think again, to even give headspace on a serious topic to someone ‘going round there and sorting him out’ is utter nonsense.

howaboutholly · 13/11/2020 11:26

@AlternativePerspective

Oh the irony of people who think that murder, threats, and any other violence is perfectly ok complaining that someone is being unpleasant to them....
Well, indeed.
LilacPebbles · 13/11/2020 11:29

Sorry but I have to laugh at the idea of someone being in awe of a woman who is so amazing because she throws her weight around (must do or why would it have been mentioned). Standards can be so low.

AlternativePerspective · 13/11/2020 11:36

Actually I think being in awe of one woman who throws her weight around is pretty sexist in itself.

Fact is that most women don’t and can’t throw their weight around in a similar way, which is one of the reasons why women are often greater victims of domestic violence.

MrsJunglelow · 13/11/2020 11:41

Wow.
Oh, I’m out.
This is just insane.
I made a nice comment about a nice woman.
Shoot me!