ADs self isolate in a fridge Boris style

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We've polished off our hotel breakfasts, flocked to the beaches and eaten out to help out with Rishi. Now the D-Day style floatilla of Anti-Dementor boats weather the stormy seas of tiers 1, 2 and 3 and support each other through the calls for lockdown.

Hold on tight and get those bouyancy aids on...

@LivinLaVidaLoki I just saw that.

The op is doing very well despite the vile comments I think

I went on that thread last night. Wrote a post telling people to mind thier own fucking business, actuslly read the guidelines with as much effort as they practised telling others to follow thier sanctiminious made up rules and ignorant opinions and read the disability discrimination act then deleted and left. No bloody point. They cant even read ops posts no chance of them reading anything else. Such blinkered casual discrimination and hate. This country is shameful, i wil never view it the same again.

She is exempt, she shouldn't have to "window dress" to make others feel better.

This is the nub of the whole thing, I feel @LivinLaVidaLoki.

All this 'I wear a mask to protect others...' shite. The unspoken follow-up to that is therefore '...so you must all wear one to protect ME and I will require a bloody good reason why anyone isn't.'

I also loathe the idea of exempt people carrying badges. Talk about having to wear the scarlet letter. How long before some harrumphing blunderbuss on the back-benches proposes that it would be a great idea for people with disability/ies, HIV-positive people, asylum seekers or even the unemployed to wear clear identifying marks all the time?

I've got my riah up this morning

Thing is, I don't want to refuse anyone the right to mask up. All those frothed who are annoyed by exemptions, I don't want them to have to mask up if they don't want to. I want everyone to have the choice!

I am chilled about masks! I don't like wearing them but will wear one where I have to, and where I don't have to if someone says they'd prefer me to (e.g. in the office, where some staff like to wear them at all times).

What gets my back up is all the sanctimonious social media posts about how anyone who doesn't wear one at all times is a SELFISH MURDERING BASTARD. I saw a cartoon the other day with someone trying to hold back from berating someone who was running without wearing a mask. The last evidence I saw (which may admittedly be out of date) was that it was actually dangerous to run with a mask on! And surely someone out on a run is less likely than most to have Covid and be spraying death particles everywhere.

The thing is - the lanyards themselves have now become a massive figure of hate - drummed up by the media and social media that "anyone can buy one if they just fancy not wearing a mask" and now there's this mentality that if you wear one - you've hit up ebay just to avoid putting a mask on.

The venom I've had going out with mine on is horrendous - funnily I had none yesterday when 6foot 7 DH was with me!

You literally cannot win if you can't wear a mask - you get challenged and assumed to be an arse if you haven't got a lanyard, and if you have one - you just bought it on ebay because you're an arse.

Uni now have their own uni design version of the sunflower ones - can't just pick one up, have to make a formal appointment to collect one via student gateway - you just KNOW that you're going to get quizzed to fuck there about why you need one!

Long Covid is the new Sadly Death, isn’t it?

The term long covid makes me irrationally angry.

It isn't surprising that people that were on ICU have long term complications.

It also isn't surprising that some people have long term post viral complications.

I can only think that they gave it a new name so as to create more fear.

Yes, I think they had to come up with something when deaths were falling.

But it’s just so bloody irritating

JamSarnie “ I can only think that they gave it a new name so as to create more fear.”

Of course. That’s why they’re acting like infectious disease just arrived in 2020.

Its very hard not to feel a pang of fear when you read something saying that obese women aged 50-60 are the group most likely to get Long Covid, when you're a fat 59-year old! On the other hand, I'd be a less fat 59-year old, if I hadn't eaten and drunk my way through lockdown.

Anyhoo, I'm off to the theatre for the first time in 10 months this evening. I need to get to the theatre at a specified time, enter through a specified door, have my temperature taken, and wear a mask throughout. I have had to tick a box confirming that I have only booked for members of my household so we can sit together (which means I am doomed to solitary theatregoing for the foreseeable future). And they've closed the bars (as they're small spaces) and have deliberately chosen a show without an interval to eliminate the interval loo-rush. But, I'm still determined to enjoy it!!

I've had long-not-covid so also not-sadly!

I got a cold in February half term a few years back because I went to Ireland wanting to wear my new jacket and didn't pack a coat and froze my arse off. I was off and on work (teacher) until the Easter holiday and still didn't feel totally myself until the summer half term. I went to the doctor and she basically shrugged. I'm not surprised it took me until the sunlight came back to feel better. But long covid seems to cover all sorts of things like post ICU symptoms to post-viral fatigue, deliberately confusing to build fear?

@MaudesMum ooh! Enjoy! I’m quite jealous despite the crummy rules. Take wine in a water bottle

Great advice from a fellow fat fifty something 😃

This is totally unscientific BUT seems a reasonable thought to me.

Might Vitamin D be linked to Post Viral Syndrome? (I refuse to call it long Covid)

We know, that having a good immune system is protective and some research shows it reduces that chance of being seriously ill if you do get it.

I have done lots of reading about Vitamin D. And though none of it is conclusive. Vitamin D is cheap, readily available and there is little danger of overdose (Recommended dose is about 4000 x what NHS says is essential and overdose is another 40 times higher).

Overweight people are likely to have an even lower level than others as Vitamin D is fat soluble so less of what we do get is usable.

There is also research that shows that low Vitamin D has links with Depression, Fibromyalgia, MS, Dementia, Heart Disease, Schizophrenia, Heart Disease etc

"Symptoms of vitamin D deficiency include bone pain, muscle weakness, fatigue, and mood changes"

"found that school-age children who took vitamin D, compared with a placebo, were 42 percent less likely to get the flu."

cited article

I know I bang on about this but it is such a simple protection.

@IAintentDead interesting

My GP told me to take vitamin D after I was diagnosed with depression. He prescribed anti-depressants too but he said keep on with the vitamin D alongside (which I have done). I have one of those mouthy-squirty ones. The dose on the packaging says one pump but doc said to do 2 a day.

[quote NastyBlouse]@IAintentDead interesting

My GP told me to take vitamin D after I was diagnosed with depression. He prescribed anti-depressants too but he said keep on with the vitamin D alongside (which I have done). I have one of those mouthy-squirty ones. The dose on the packaging says one pump but doc said to do 2 a day.[/quote]
You have an unusually good GP.

How many iu or ug does it say is in each 'squirt'?

One of the problems re 'overdose' comes when people confuse the too.

A good winter dose is 4000iu (I take 8,000 though) which is 100ug. So easy to think 4,000 is an overdose if you are not aware of the difference. With higher doses it's good to add Vit K2 into the mix, which reduces still further any chance of toxicity..

@Maudesmum
Fantastic! Enjoy the show.

@IAintentDead
I don't mind you banging on about vitamin D. You are the reason I remember to take my daily dose! The bottle of pills is staring me in the face & yet I still forget until I see your username!

Talk of tests upthread, & there's something confusing me. So we're told not to get tests unless we have symptoms & that if you test too soon you might get a negative result but actually have it develop later, hence having to stay at home if someone you live with is symptomatic/tests positive. But I now know of 2 people who booked tests because they had symptoms & who were told by the booking call-handlers that everyone in the house had to get tested too, even though they had no symptoms. Only the symptomatic people tested positive, the other householders didn't, & everyone self-isolated properly. But it worries me that (1) this isn't the correct advice, & that (2) some people might be negative at the time of testing, ignore the self-isolation rules as a result of that, & go on to unwittingly catch & spread it.

Its just another control method as they can see people questioning the whole shitstorm of rules and regulations that make no sense at all.

To hear people on MN and elsewhere there has never been a virus that can kill anyone before nor leave post viral syndroms.

The absolute blind ignorance of anything that they havent experienced themselves is astonishing and i wonder how these people actually function in the real world. Do they just ignore everything? See the world through blinkers or filter out the crap?

I am suffering with "long pregnancy" given the damage to my undercarriage and pelvis/ splits 10 years on
I still get SPD shooting pains for putting one-sided pressure through my pelvis for things like gardening.

DH spent 6+ months with post viral fatigue after travelingwhen he was 30. He was one of those whippet like people who effortlessly bounded up mountains like a gazelle. For 6 months he went to work, went home and crashed out and then his energy finally came back; thinking about it that would have been summer by that point. Another friend has had glandular fever and is suscepitible to having her energy wiped out for a while after normal range illnesses.

I'm about the lowest priority for a vaccine. Low risk lifestyle, cusp of 40, no known health issues. It would be selfish of me to want to rush into a vaccine ahead of people with a more advantageous risk/ benefit.

Stats Wales still haven't published the NHS occupancy figures for this week - they normally come out on a Wednesday. Odd. And annoying because I wanted to use them to set someone on another thread straight refer to them.

You have an unusually good GP.

How many iu or ug does it say is in each 'squirt'?

3,000iu per squirt, so I'm taking 6,000 a day. I'm fairly certain I do alright on K2; I eat quite a lot of free-range chicken and beef, oily fish, plus eggs.

I do have a good GP, he's brilliant. Relaxed, funny, innovative, and very much AD in mindset. He's about to retire and the medical/GP world will be the poorer for it.

"I am suffering with "long pregnancy"
Love it! Although everyone knows that having a baby is the most natural thing in the world, sure it stings a bit, but if it was that bad the human race would've died out long ago, & women should get over themselves. Man-flu on the other hand....

Several people at work had terrible coughs with "burning lungs", loss of taste & smell, & felt dreadful last December. It sounds suspiciously like covid before it had a name. None of them said "long" anything but they all used the phrase, "I had that virus and it's taken ages to shake it off," which doesn't sound nearly as medical but is probably more accurate.

I think we need a better word to describe the most severe after-effects, & we should accept that, like the flu, it can take ages to recover from a virus, & learn how to cope with that (I don't mean to be harsh there, I think that we are often expected to go back to work too soon after illness, & we are not always great at getting enough sleep or eating well. But there's usually competing issues going on, for example having to look after children when you feel 10 degrees under.)

@nastyblouse
There are far few of that type of GP left. Far too many just want to prescribe medication. Happily give out anti depressants and not even think about optimal nutrition through food or supplements.

My GP is great too - though I suspect she will not be too far from retirement too. She recommends higher doses of D not since hearing what I take and seeing me results.

Love Terry Pratchett

Orchidkiller, I was ill over Christmas for about 5 weeks as you describe. Then it took another 5 until I had consistent energy levels again.
I'm left with a cough after I exert myself.

The long pregnancy symptoms are still much worse, 16 years on!