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ADs self isolate in a fridge Boris style

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BogRollBOGOF · 14/10/2020 19:37

We've polished off our hotel breakfasts, flocked to the beaches and eaten out to help out with Rishi. Now the D-Day style floatilla of Anti-Dementor boats weather the stormy seas of tiers 1, 2 and 3 and support each other through the calls for lockdown.

Hold on tight and get those bouyancy aids on...

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justasking111 · 21/10/2020 23:14

@AcornAutumn our local testing centre is not liked by our hospital because they believe they are getting too many false negative results there. Make what you will of that little gem.

MissEWeatherwax · 21/10/2020 23:15

Surely curtains are they only thing needed. They are soundproof, are totally not see though and the occupant gets a good nights sleep. So they must stop infections like Covid. I am joking by the way. Hospitals are just too full of ill people who knew.
I am definitely going to shoehorn the word nosocomial, if I can find someone to talk too.

justasking111 · 21/10/2020 23:15

If the viral load making people sicker is true then putting covid patients in open bays is not really such a great idea.

MaxNormal · 21/10/2020 23:31

@NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace welcome and I'm glad you're here safely with us now.

HeIenaDove · 21/10/2020 23:33

Oh Jesus the mask thread in AIBU Angry Sad

Evenstar · 21/10/2020 23:35

I haven’t dared comment on that 😢 I can’t believe that people can be so unkind and offensive or excuse bullying those of us who can’t wear masks.

justasking111 · 21/10/2020 23:38

That mask thread is vile the OP was raped with a pillow over her head, never mind the asthma. I have asthma, can wear the mask for a certain amount of time but after 15 mins. I just have to get out of the store because it is becoming very difficult and I start coughing, not something you want to be doing these days.

IAintentDead · 21/10/2020 23:49

Nosocomial - does anyone have any idea how to pronounce it?

Are all the 'O's emphasised. Pretty sure the first one must be but not sure about the other two. It could be either, neither or both.

HeIenaDove · 22/10/2020 00:00

I really think its going to lead to a serious dangerous disability hate crime. Because thats the way its heading.

HeIenaDove · 22/10/2020 00:04

Another reason why the claim that its all about protecting the vulnerable is a crock of shit.

Jack Monroe
@BootstrapCook
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4h
The Tories have voted AGAINST
@MarcusRashford
plea to feed hungry children during the pandemic.

Never forget this. In a time of national crisis, they subsidised their own meals despite £80k salaries, propped up their wealthy mates, and left over a million children to go hungry.

user1471448866 · 22/10/2020 00:15

@HeIenaDove

Oh Jesus the mask thread in AIBU Angry Sad
So glad others have now commented on this thread. I was seriously starting to wonder if I had gone mad or was living in some parallel Universe. I thought we prided ourselves on our values of tolerance and empathy. What the hell happened to ‘be kind’ ? I honestly feel that we are drifting into some dystopian world where qualities such as compassion and tolerance don’t even exist anymore. The people demanding that others wear a badge of some sort to declare they can’t wear a mask seriously need to consider whether they would also have been right up there declaring that Jewish people wear the Star of David and I am not being facetious or trying to cause offence. I am genuinely scared for what this country has become
LivinLaVidaLoki · 22/10/2020 07:01

@IAintentDead

Nosocomial - does anyone have any idea how to pronounce it?

Are all the 'O's emphasised. Pretty sure the first one must be but not sure about the other two. It could be either, neither or both.

@IAintentDead I assume only the last "o" is emphasised. As the greek word for hospital is Nosokomeio soft "o" until the one after the K.
Reedwarbler · 22/10/2020 07:18

If it's the same mask thread I'm thinking about, I commented on it the other day because I really couldn't believe the bile pouring out of some posters. In fact, some people are so exercised about the wearing of masks I think they would tar and feather non wearers if it was allowed, to teach them a lesson.
I'm sorry, I can't see at the moment who made the point, but the fact we are, so say, running about the same amount of tests as India and the US seems very odd. I hope one day there is a major 10 part tv series about covid in the UK because I think the things that an investigative reporter would uncover will horrify us more than we know.
I have written that word down - nosocomial. It used to be C-Diff that was the scourge of our local cottage hospital - wards were regularly closed because of it. In my experience, a lot of hospitals are already filthy anyway, and that's before you get virulent bugs in there..

110APiccadilly · 22/10/2020 07:24

We are doing a lot of tests, though the way we count a test as "done" is a bit suspicious unusual.

In terms of controlling disease spread, I suspect just doing lots of tests may not be all that helpful though - you'll test the "worried well" a lot. (You can see this effect in certain threads on Mumsnet.) We presumably want to test people:

  • With clear symptoms (I think in Germany, members of the public can only get a test of referred by a doctor).
  • Who work in healthcare (see points above about nosocomial spread).
  • Possibly people who are in a position to spread to a lot of other people (so perhaps public facing jobs where close contact is unavoidable?)

I'm not convinced we should do mass testing at all.

BogRollBOGOF · 22/10/2020 07:34

It only takes the usual nasties like norovirus to plunge hospitals onto their red/black status in the winter.

When I saw my relative in ICU some years back it was ratger open air with just the usual thin curtains. It was a comforting day. He died a week later, but lying sedated he looked at peace for the first time in many years. He was a spent old man who had struggled to experience any joy in his final years, but at 48, he was released from his suffering.
HDU after DS1's birth was like an oasis between labour ward and the usual postnatal ward, both of which in the final days before Christmas were heaving. DS was spontaneously a couple of days early.

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WouldBeGood · 22/10/2020 07:59

It’s also now selfish to think you might not have the vaccine 🙄

ISaySteadyOn · 22/10/2020 08:10

But if you're under 50, you can't, can you?

SirSamuelVimes · 22/10/2020 08:16

@ISaySteadyOn

But if you're under 50, you can't, can you?
That seems to be being ignored at the moment. I don't know how the govt will undo the Covid paranoia in the dementors who are actually young, fit & healthy and therefore don't qualify for a vaccine (if we even get one). If you've put all your mental energy into "it's not safe until everyone has had a vaccination", to the point of wanting to conduct mass vaccination by law, how do you accept that you, and probably the vast majority of the people you know & are in contact with, won't get one?
Curlygirl06 · 22/10/2020 08:26

I had a lady at my till yesterday who was struggling to breathe in a mask, so I told her to take it off. She is asthmatic, had been shielding and this was the first time she'd been out, and was scared about not wearing a mask.
We had a chat about the sunflower lanyard scheme, which she was aware of but didn't understand how it worked. Hopefully I've given her some idea about how she can manage in the future, although I agree with pp about "badges" for people. It shouldn't be necessary, if someone isn't wearing a mask then that should be the end of it. If I ever hear anyone berating anyone for not wearing a mask, I'll be in there!

Evenstar · 22/10/2020 08:26

There was a very good if rather depressing article in The Guardian yesterday explaining that vaccination is not going to be a magic bullet to take us back to life before COVID, even when it does become available www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/21/covid-vaccine-immunisation-protection?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Iheartmysmart · 22/10/2020 08:29

God there are some sanctimonious cows on the mask thread. I’m sure if advice changed and you had to wear a plastic bag over your head, tied very tightly around your neck some of them would say they have no problem with it and can breathe just fine!

Bollss · 22/10/2020 08:34

[quote justasking111]@AcornAutumn . Reading on here or elsewhere one person said office staff in their workplace had mandatory weekly tests even if it is your day off you have to attend. Yet we here so many stories of NHS staff unable to access tests. Why do they not have regular tests to protect their health?[/quote]
Because we can't spare them. The staff I mean. We've got enough off as it it because they've got symptoms or their wife has or their child has and they're waiting for results and then some of them having to isolate for two weeks. Every week testing would mean we didn't have enough doctors on the wards and we couldn't cover on calls. We'd have to rely on agency staff for everything which is not good on a normal day let alone now as it presents more risk!

110APiccadilly · 22/10/2020 08:39

@Iheartmysmart

God there are some sanctimonious cows on the mask thread. I’m sure if advice changed and you had to wear a plastic bag over your head, tied very tightly around your neck some of them would say they have no problem with it and can breathe just fine!
The thread about giving birth in a mask is also pretty terrifying. (So glad my midwife has already demonstrated that in this, as in other ways, she's eminently reasonable.)
LivinLaVidaLoki · 22/10/2020 08:58

Just read that mask thread. Its depressing how many people ask her to wear a visor or scarf to "at least look like she's making an effort"
Just fuck off.
She is exempt, she shouldn't have to "window dress" to make others feel better.
Unfortunately I'm too chicken to post that on that thread 🐣

LivinLaVidaLoki · 22/10/2020 09:06

Oh god, I did it, I posted.....eeeeeeek