Would you refer to this person as attractive or unattractive

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If you know someone who is really beautiful when they have made an effort with their appearance, when their hair is done, bit of makeup, dressed well etc. But looks really really bad when they haven't made an effort- no makeup, scruffy hair and clothes etc

When you thought about them/ if you talked about them, would you describe them as attractive or not?

What I mean is, what version of them do you think of.

Thanks to those that answered the question!

How I see them most.

I've got friends who aren't even recognisable without make up. And a majority of people are prettier with.

Some can look good with both. But my answer is how I most often see them like.

I myself never wear makeup even though I'm prettier with it. But others would only describe me without. But someone who you only see with would probably be described like that.

I still think of Paul ogrady as lily savage without make up. He's not his own person 🤣🤣

Most of us aren't fabulous and need a little help with the right clothes, hair and make-up. The genuinely beautiful look good with very little or no effort, lucky them. In order to be a truly beautiful person you need to have a beautiful soul as well.

I do think some women are very good at applying make up so when they are done up they look strikingly beautiful but when you see them without make up it's a bit of a shock even if they are pretty.

I wear basic make up and I wouldn't want to look totally different made up. Everyone is different though.

I wouldn't comment but I would think quite plain without make up but stunning with.

Those extremes are so rare I’m not even sure.

You have described me. I have started telling people I have aids when they keep asking "are you sick?" . Because I have no make up on. Make up really suits me and I am good at it. But day to day I look shite.
Why are you asking. And I would hope people judge me on my personality rather than how I look, were not in secondary school anymore.

I try not to describe people in those terms.
I might go for "She looks like dynamite when she decides to doll up" and that would be the end of it.

@Cheeeeislifenow I wouldn't judge you at all. This isn't about judging. I'm just wondering

The version I see most of. So if you're the type of friend I usually only see at parties / occasions. Then the attractive one. If I usually see you scruffy on the school run but have once or twice seen you dolled up, then the unattractive version.

I never wear make up. I was once described as 'handsome' (I'm female) but that's about as good as it's ever got.

When I wear make up I look like a truck driver in his 'female persona'.

So I don't know how people think of me. I'd like to think they think of the whole package, not just my face.

I don't think I would describe someone like that. Those extremes are rare, I'm not v interested in whether people wear makeup or not but I would tell someone if they looked amazing at a party - but probably in terms of style, or having a great haircut.

I know someone who has Botox and lip fillers and things. I think of her as being very attractive regardless of what she wears but very unnatural. She does look most attractive made up but it takes hours for her to present that way and so it feels a bit try hard.

Scruffiness doesn’t equal unattractive in my books. There are people who look amazing when natural but who make up and dress up badly. Suited men often fall into this category for me. They can look amazing slightly scruffy with a bit of facial hair but then too slick and manicured to be attractive when suited.

Well no, they are not a naturally attractive person.

But I wish we could judge people as being attractive based on what is on the inside and not the outside.

It just isn't a thing I'd say. I'd remark on an article of clothing I liked, or say something about a new hair do or if they were dressed up for their wedding or something but otherwise unless someone was really outrageously stunning (i.e. not just ordinarily pretty) I can't see myself commenting on this.

If you perceive someone as only looking attractive when covered with a layer of pastes and chemicals, then it's the latter you find attractive not the former.

It's very hard to say, OP. Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder 😊❤ xx

I would say they are attractive. Rather than pretty, handsome or beautiful which are more natural to me. Attractive suggests they can look good with some effort and might have some nice features such as good teeth, nice hair etc but they aren't stunning.
To me wearing a ton of makeup, false eyelashes, drawn on eyebrows doesn't take someone from plain to stunning.
Unless they are a genius with makeup ugly can't be turned in beautiful. You would need plastic surgery to achieve that.

What really sways new about people’s looks is how nice they are. Someone can be traditionally as ugly as sin and grow beautiful as I get to know them. Hard to explain. In the same light someone traditionally beautiful can become quite sickly and unattractive in my eyes looks wise if they are nasty or self absorbed

I'd rather be described as kind and caring. They are way more attractive attributes than looks.
I've met very attractive people to look at that became very ugly with their behaviour.

Attractive because you typically need a nice bone structure symmetrical face etc, which is still there even if you have soup stained joggers on and a birds nest on your head

Tbh most models and 'beautiful women' looks pretty normal without the make up etc...

I had once some make up done for a special photo. Met my gran in the street whilst I still had said make up on and she didn't recognise me. On the photos I apparently look so different and amazing

imo I was just me, myself. I haven't changed for a bit of make up.

[quote user43]@Notverybright I do agree. But in general I feel the whole appearance when put together can change someone so dramatically[/quote]
This raises other questions.

Why do you have to be 'put together'?
Do you really think anyone looks nice and atrractive in dirty old jeans with a rank tshirt? Or with bird nest in their hair?

If you have to paint a new face on top of your actual face to be considered attractive or beautiful then you're probably not. And so what? Few are, welcome to the club. I see most of the women I know in their natural state (morning school run, gym, working in a school) so I feel quite normal. There are two I'd describe as really pretty because they are. Most are just average, like me. I don't know anyway I'd describe as unattractive but I don't consider bare faces to be unattractive.

OP, why are you asking? Are you worrying about someone seeing you without make-up for the first time?? I can’t think why else you’d ask.

I think I'd be more likely to think of them in terms of what sort of person they are than how they look!