ADs crave hotel breakfasts garnished with phallic strawberries

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Oh for the good old days of a breakfast buffet.

Back when you could make plans and reasonably expect them to happen. When you could turn up spontaneously and browse or linger at your leisure. When you could meet whoever you like and give them a hug

But until those days return, here's some more AD chat about life, the universe and phallic fruits...

@DominaShantotto you made me laugh with more, more, harder harder.

I hope essex does kick off. It is kicking off here, the welsh government are refusing to release data as to where the cases are, hot spots, clusters, it is sensitive info. but not in S Wales.

DS phoned tonight from Leeds he said word on the street is they will move to tier 3 in the next few days. He is in a block of student flats building for 900 odd students, not one with covid that he has heard of.

Oh I am having bloody xmas, before that halloween. My neighbours are a good sort who have been sneaking off to see family on the quiet. They worried at the beginning but are now rebellious.

I cannot believe our lovely neighbours in Liverpool are going to take this lying down it will take very little to light the fuse.

Ooh I’ve just ventured into the two week circuit breaker thread, the usual few are very vocal about how they really wouldn’t mind!
Glad to see that @HelenaDove made the very valid point that the government has had 8 months to sort out test and trace and it’s still a fucking shambles.
Why can’t we have a sensible televised debate where Boris is questioned on the government’s strategy to get us out of the mess they’ve caused?

Trouble is - Liverpool are demanding Nottingham goes to tier 3 when we've not even hit into tier 2 yet. The politicians would quite happily sell us out to shut up the Scousers.

Tier 3 would finish me off I think right now.

Why can’t we have a sensible televised debate where Boris is questioned on the government’s strategy to get us out of the mess they’ve caused?

I'll remind you this is Boris who has hidden in a fridge before to avoid awkward questions.

@DominaShantotto

Why can’t we have a sensible televised debate where Boris is questioned on the government’s strategy to get us out of the mess they’ve caused?

I'll remind you this is Boris who has hidden in a fridge before to avoid awkward questions.

Oh god domina that made me laugh. Bloody prime minister hiding in a sodding fridge. You couldn't write it!!

@DominaShantotto Ah sorry, I forgot myself for a minute and thought we had a proper grown up for a Prime Minister. Totally forgot he’s a twat!

I think what Keir is thinking is 2 week hideousness is better than 2 months of uncertainty for businesses and the mental health of those not coping.

Plus even better, if Boris does it and its a success, Keir gets to say "we told you you should have done it a week earlier and saved more distress/it was our idea/glad Boris finally came round to our way of thinking." If its a disaster, its Boris that'll get the blame.

But more likely, Boris won't do it, so when we are in and out of tier 2/3 over November/December Keir can say "if only Boris had listened, we'd be out the other side by now."

Just playing politics. At least he's better at it than Corbyn.

Only just read Starmers rant backing sage, the professors stated that

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"The professors, whose findings will be released on Wednesday, claim between 3,000 and 107,000 deaths could stopped by January if Boris Johnson imposes the measure."

My old maths teacher would have given me an F for such a vague variance in figures. The students are causing the cases, the government know this. They are doing just fine friends son felt a bit yucky as did his house mates nothing worse.

Can you imagine every supermarket board mwmber holding their head in their hands knowing they cannot deliver to everyone who is panicked into isolating again. Never mind the loss of the impulse buys you put in your basket to push their profits up.

I don't trust they'd let us out after 2 weeks. Wasn't it 3 weeks or so to flatten the curve?

Between 3k and 107k?? Oh that's precise isn't it. What are their figures for how many they'll accidentally kill? Between 1 and 1mill?

Yep it was Domina 3 weeks which became 4 months.
So now they say 2 weeks , i hear 3 months.

@Iheartmysmart Its the public who are expected to pay for their incompetence by adhering to another lockdown.

YY @Iheartmysmart Sorry , should have posted this first.

Even if it is actually two weeks, it doesn't work out that way for business, supply chains mean that you can't just open and close like that, there's all the wasted food etc. then it takes a while to start again. There's all the work that no one pays us for that's unarranging and arranging things again. If a piece of work gets cancelled it doesn't take place again immediately, it might be weeks before it happens, and in the meantime there's no income other than for certain sectors / organisations. Some one said on the radio today or yesterday that all the people making decisions are in secure jobs with secure incomes and have no idea what it's like to not know whether you can pay your housing costs or put petrol in your car or feed your family.

Do you think we could have “ADs shut Boris in a fridge” for the next thread title?
@HelenaDove of course it is! I certainly won’t be adhering to another lockdown. The last one nearly broke me and I like my own company!

My mood's been better today. No crying at ABBA on the radio

Last night's announcement didn't have anything revolutionary that hadn't been leaked/ scaremongered over the weekend. The day started with sunshine and I seemed to find a productive spurt of energy to do some domestic reclaimation tidying

Managed to move one DC up a swimming level so the classes are now back to back, not spending a long evening doing the hokey cokey.

I'm in Barnsley (Sheffield next door has a lot of cases) we weren't in special measures but have gone straight into level 2. They kept saying level 2 was those already in special measures. Not in this case.

It won't affect me too much as I don't do much anyway but it's just crackers. The only 2 things I do, I now can't. I have 2 friends locally who sometimes come round. We are all retired and go out very little but they can't now come to mine. And I have a couple of friends in Rotherham who I normally see every couple of weeks - again that is now off the agenda.

A bloody 'circuit break' will do sweet fuck all. I won't live another year like this - I'll put long term plans into action. My kids are in their 40s with no kids so no need for me to hang around

Hello all
Well, we're flying home tomorrow, back to the madness after our 10 days in Italy. They are strict here but in an Italian sort of way and the cafes are full, people are shopping and chatting and coming back to Dementorland is really making me feel a bit down.
So glad we came though, it's been wonderful. Our tour operator said we were their last guests of the season to fly home. Not exactly last helicopter out of Saigon but interesting!

Like HelenaDove ( and can I say Helena, how dreadfully you are being treated on Another Thread )I live in a really low transmission area right next to a higher one (university return has driven it up) and I will be so very angry if our little pleasures that have just started up again (art classes, U3A meetings) get locked down again!
We've all bloody well behaved for months, my husband has had cardiac rehab and physiotherapy delayed and there was an actual light at the end of the tunnel.

Kier Starmer finds his voice at last and talks shit with it

@TabbyStar agree about it having an impact on more than the "2 weeks".

DD works in hospitality. Back in March, the day of Boris' big "Stay indoors" announcement, they were doing a deep clean. They ended up frantically freezing stock & anything that couldn't be frozen, cooked for a staff meal that night, or given to the homeless shelter, got chucked.

Then there was a massive amount of prep to reopen, with the covid-secure work, plus having to splash out on screens.

People I know just aren't planning anything. This time of year its a vicious bun-fight to get requests in for Christmas rotas, & people are just shrugging & saying they don't know what to request because they don't know if they can see family.

@BogRollBOGOF for you a song

That's made me giggle
Sometimes it's very tempting to put the children out like cats. I have very cat-like children. Always on the wrong side of the door, go missing when you need to herd them out of the house, turn their nose up at dinner, whinge about the rain, like snuggling up in awkward positions

Ah glad you liked it.

Just had a womble elsewhere on MN just the trending ones. There is a cloud of misery hanging over so many people tonight. It really is going to be so much tougher than it was in the spring with the glorious weather we had. My friends and I have a whats app group I just cannot get a rise out of anyone much, one friend is valiantly trying to make people smile but we seem to have run out of steam. We have not seen each other since February. I would like to give them all a great lunch out lots of wine and giggles but I can`t.

@Iheartmysmart

Is it just me or have the papers and BBC suddenly gone back to full doom and gloom mode? There have been the odd one or two positive stories lately but today there is nothing but scaremongering and dire warnings about what will happen if we DO NOT OBEY! I’m finding the lack of anything to look forward to very difficult at the moment.

I accidently missed the TV and radio news today. Therefore the whole thing hasn't been happening today. Some people seemed to be covering their faces in Tesco for some reason, but, you know, people do odd things. I just lived my life in the normal way - it was like a holiday.

And I got completely lost in some intricate surgery on the telly tonight (more face coverings). No viruses all day.

Trouble is, that approach does rely on DH, who cannot leave the TV and radio off, being out, and on me staying in the moment and not looking to the future and the lack of anything to look forward to.

There's very little new stuff to inject into interactions.

It was lovely seeing my friend on Sunday but I just felt worn. Not helped by the jittery atmosphere and the return of the tedious waiting in bushes for people to pass. We had a good vent, and normally we uplift each other but I think we both felt it this time. And we parted afterwards flapping our arms around in virtual hugs. I wouldn't turn down a hug, but they're now in lockdown zone 2 and they only really emerged into society in late August, so missed the best of the summer (which was a bit silly)so I didn't want yo awkwardly offer real hugs. Their lockdown makes no practical difference to meeting as we're trying to keep it outdoors anyway and we may technically have a couple of spare children... in reality the big two charge off ahead and one of the younger ones lags behind

One of the things that struck me after is that it's going to take a while to get the mojo back. That confidence in doing things and building a bit of zest up. It's gone on so long now, and will take that much longer again, and while I absolutely believe in the will to get back to something recognisably old normal in the big picture, we're not just going to snap back into it. We could have done, but that boat is leaving the port.

The first few weeks of the DCs back in school wiped me out by Fridays! I've had phases of being anxious or stressed over specific things for a while and when it resolves, it does take a while to mentally unclench and settle back to your regular state.

And this is worse as we're all in it together (or in our own little D Day-esque floatilla of whatever boat we are in) so there's not much capacity to prop each other up or find escapism.

@BogRollBOGOF that is so true, there is very little capacity for anything other than trying to keep our own little boat on some kind of even keel and just keep going. It feels scary with the winter that lies ahead to feel there is nothing in reserve, sorry to be depressing ☹️