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Oh for the good old days of a breakfast buffet.

Back when you could make plans and reasonably expect them to happen. When you could turn up spontaneously and browse or linger at your leisure. When you could meet whoever you like and give them a hug

But until those days return, here's some more AD chat about life, the universe and phallic fruits...

@Ibake

If you do decide to watch the vid I posted then you will understand what I'm about to type as it's a bit discombobulating.

My husband and I have been debating who has the guts to change tack and pursue a different strategy? Sunken cost fallacy and all that. I am now rooting for Trump to swagger out of hospital with the courage to do something different as we're currently the living definition of insanity. I know these meetings in Washington are happening, I hope they're happening at the highest level possible.

Even if trump wants to change tactics, can he? States set a lot of their own laws don't they, which is why new York was in lockdown when trump was still saying it was all fine.

Justasking, thanks for the vid.
I find all this so frustrating and frightening. How long will this farce go on for?

Yes @SirSamuelVimes good point. But what he can do is change and alter the narrative. Show that video on prime time tv. Allow them to be on MSM. Endorse the strategy.

Panorama should be showing it. SAGE should be debating it.

These people, and us, have had to skulk around the periphery for months now with our views not being allowed on MSM - and that is actually literally true in the UK as there are rules re Coronavirus reporting in OFCOM that can be interpreted in quite a draconian way.

Sunetra Gupta has at least been at a recent SAGE meeting. I really hope they get somewhere.

@Taswama

Yes but he will have had treatments unaffordable to the majority of Americans.

As did Boris. The difference is the mindset of americans v uk citizens.

@SirSamuelVimes re: NY Trump is giving them the rope to hang themselves as he is elsewhere. The will has to come from the people at the ballot box. NY has been a sewer before, the big clean up three strikes sorted that out. Now it is going down hill again. Will it recover that is up to the people.

@CruCru

Something is really irritating me. I keep hearing people saying that there may be a fortnight’s “circuit break” to coincide with half term. Do all schools get a fortnight for half term? The school I went to only got one week.

If this is the case then presumably people will need to sort childcare for the other week at short notice but no one seems to mention this.

Ds's school only closes for one week in October. Fuck knows what i will do the other week if it happens. Maybe take some annual leave and Dp might take some, and attempt to WFH with him the rest of the week. Presumably a circuit break means no childminders, no holiday clubs no nowt. So actually i will have an extra day to think about as he is at childminders one day that week to get him used to it.

There has been nothing concrete about this two week thing has there just speculation basically?

I don't think they will close schools for longer, that would take more notice surely. It seems an awful lot of hassle for something which wouldn't make a lot of difference- just delay things a bit.

We are going to have another fucking lockdown because of their screw up arent we

@justasking111 Sorry about your friend Thats shit.

[quote WouldBeGood]@Curlygirl06 I think this is what happens to the “helpers” and it’s made worse by the weird insulation of the Covid . I stopped doing some of those things when I realised o was the oldest and fattest and volunteering and it was not reciprocated when I went mental with the lockdown![/quote]
Yep I hear you there!

[quote justasking111]@Curlygirl06 she is suspended pending outcome of investigation. [/quote]
Blimey!

@justasking111

Has anyone else noticed, when this shit show started and for a time NHS staff would comment honestly about what was going on. Whether here, in the media or elsewhere. Now absolutely zilch. They are under assumed monikers in the main so why the silence?

Reasons for this particular NHS worker not talking about corona :

1. It's boring & I'd rather talk about rude vegetables
2. I don't work in a hospital so I don't feel like I count. (Community health services don't make for as exciting TV as hospital dramas & documentaries, even if what we do is important to some people). It feels like people only want the ITU horror stories, not how we got Mrs. X a new commode.
3. I'm embarrassed by the "NHS Heroes" agenda. Some of us do an excellent job, but too many people have been let down (including a relative of mine, but that's another story). It feels wrong to go on about "poor me & my hard NHS job" (although it's ok to moan in general, as that's part of life)
4. I honestly don't have any juicy insider info to tell (even if I was brave enough to do it on a public forum). For my department it has been business as usual from the start (albeit within the confines of covid world).

Someone working elsewhere might have a different story to tell.

@Willow2017

Oxford is shouting into the void between Hancocks ears. Love That!

Curly I think it's because people start to see you as the person to go to to make things right, better, get things done. You are seen as the one person capable in everything. It never crossed thier selfish minds that younare a person too and needs support and acknowledgement as a friend too not just thier fixer upper. It's really sad and selfish of people who only see what they want and for someone else to do it for them but they don't have to reciprocate in any way, it's just thier right to use someone else for anything they need and ignore them till the next time.
💐 You deserve better, step back and let them get on with it themselves now.

Just typed a post and lost it! Thanks for the flowers

[quote TheOrchidKiller]@justasking111

Has anyone else noticed, when this shit show started and for a time NHS staff would comment honestly about what was going on. Whether here, in the media or elsewhere. Now absolutely zilch. They are under assumed monikers in the main so why the silence?

Reasons for this particular NHS worker not talking about corona :

1. It's boring & I'd rather talk about rude vegetables
2. I don't work in a hospital so I don't feel like I count. (Community health services don't make for as exciting TV as hospital dramas & documentaries, even if what we do is important to some people). It feels like people only want the ITU horror stories, not how we got Mrs. X a new commode.
3. I'm embarrassed by the "NHS Heroes" agenda. Some of us do an excellent job, but too many people have been let down (including a relative of mine, but that's another story). It feels wrong to go on about "poor me & my hard NHS job" (although it's ok to moan in general, as that's part of life)
4. I honestly don't have any juicy insider info to tell (even if I was brave enough to do it on a public forum). For my department it has been business as usual from the start (albeit within the confines of covid world).

Someone working elsewhere might have a different story to tell.[/quote]
For me i dont feel like i am entitled to comment, i do work in a hospital but i dont actually look after people, and we are a MHU so not dealing with covid day in day out, although we have had a couple of cases find their way onto the wards. Also ive only worked here since July as you all know.

Same as you orchid i dont want people to pity me for working hard, i am just working like everyone else. Equally i dont have much to tell, nobody is dropping dead around me, and according to the figures theyre not dropping dead in the main hosp either but i'm not there so i dont know!

Can I just have a little vent here about homework.
DS is at primary. Every week his homework is uploaded onto some app. They can either complete on the app (fucking impossible as the screen is tiny) or print out and upload the photo. However they do cursive handwriting and ds handwriting is quite small, so trying to make it out on a photo is a fucking nightmare sometimes and the pencil doesn't show so you can't even see it unless it's pen....cue loads of ugly crossings out.
I mean who the fuck thinks they can get covid from bastard homework??!!!!
Am I going mad or is this insane?!!!

You are not going mad. It is insane.

My fil is in hospital. Not only did he have a fall and break his femur within 24 hours of admittance, they have also lost his clothes and hearing aid. His slippers, pj's underpants all vanished. They don't give a shit either. My h will be complaining to pals. Our local hospital is filthy and seems to be run by people who really don't give a shiny shit about an elderly demented man in their care. I'm glad I never clapped for the nhs. How are they allowed to get away with such atrocious care?

Sorry, my previous is nothing to do with covid.
Answer me this - how can something be called a 'case ' of covid if the person in question is perfectly well and would be totally unaware they had it unless someone had stuck a large cotton bud up their nose?
To me, if you've got covid, you should at least be bloody ill.
If you were looking for, say, streptococcus (or anything else) up people's noses, I'm sure you would find quite a lot if you tested 100000 people. It wouldn't mean there was an epidemic of strep.

@LivinLaVidaLoki

Can I just have a little vent here about homework. DS is at primary. Every week his homework is uploaded onto some app. They can either complete on the app (fucking impossible as the screen is tiny) or print out and upload the photo. However they do cursive handwriting and ds handwriting is quite small, so trying to make it out on a photo is a fucking nightmare sometimes and the pencil doesn't show so you can't even see it unless it's pen....cue loads of ugly crossings out. I mean who the fuck thinks they can get covid from bastard homework??!!!! Am I going mad or is this insane?!!!

I don't understand how schools can demand this stuff - particularly primaries. Is it now an expectation that all families must have a working printer? Or do kids whose parents can't afford a printer just have to do it on the app (even though we're meant not to let kids have too much screen time)?

(Also, I disagree with the concept of homework in primary school, except possibly in Year 6 to get them used to the concept.)

@Reedwarbler Happened to me when i was in for a kidney infection in 2008. I had to go looking for my shoes after i was moved from one ward to another. I found them on the previous ward under a chair. Your FIL cant go hunting for them in his condition though obvs No patient should have to.

When i was in primary school in the early 80s there was no homework at all.

@Reedwarbler

My fil is in hospital. Not only did he have a fall and break his femur within 24 hours of admittance, they have also lost his clothes and hearing aid. His slippers, pj's underpants all vanished. They don't give a shit either. My h will be complaining to pals. Our local hospital is filthy and seems to be run by people who really don't give a shiny shit about an elderly demented man in their care. I'm glad I never clapped for the nhs. How are they allowed to get away with such atrocious care?

It's been going on for years. They have absolutely no training in general warts re looking after elderly or people with dementia. It's a disgrace.

Btw this thread is for anything not just that C word vent away.

@Reedwarbler
Similar with my relative (same injury), lives alone, copes usually -with support. They sent her home but didn't think to tell family or carers. No food, no heating, inadequate & faulty equipment. And surprise surprise, they fell again the next day.

I agree with your "when is covid not covid" point. Reminds me of another relative who was positive as a carrier for c diff. They were tested routinely in hospital & put into a side ward & not allowed out in case they spread it. But out in the community it wasn't an issue, & family were able to visit so long as we washed hands.

We got homework in primary school (late 70s, early 80s). Reading books, spellings, tables . Make a model village out of cereal packets for me, for parents trying to get the monster model village, complete with tinfoil duck pond into school with no car on a wet morning.

Ironically, DS has just shown me his computer science homework- he's made an app. It's pointless, but he's done it. Maybe he could have a go at fixing the NHS one next?

@LivinLaVidaLoki

Can I just have a little vent here about homework. DS is at primary. Every week his homework is uploaded onto some app. They can either complete on the app (fucking impossible as the screen is tiny) or print out and upload the photo. However they do cursive handwriting and ds handwriting is quite small, so trying to make it out on a photo is a fucking nightmare sometimes and the pencil doesn't show so you can't even see it unless it's pen....cue loads of ugly crossings out. I mean who the fuck thinks they can get covid from bastard homework??!!!! Am I going mad or is this insane?!!!

Oh tell me about the fucking paper covid saga. Two kids - in different year groups.

One gets their spellings sent home in their books every week... books back and forward to school (like reading books). The other comes out with spelling book "this MUST stay at home and I'll bring the new sheet home and stick it in and I can't take it to school because of covid". Reading books have to be quarantined for 72 hours in a time out box in the classroom and the teachers aren't marking work because of Covid. The other class has a portable plexiglass screen so the TA can work with children - the teachers are confined to a taped jail box on the classroom floor.

It is in a world beyond fucking bollocks now. Only plus point is that as I'm usually gassing to a friend on the pavement outside school before school - the head gets dead worried about us talking and makes a huge point of taking that class's kids in prematurely... I've shaved 10 minutes off school morning drop off now!