Black section on MN

[PatricksRum]

I think it would be great if Mumsnet could make a black parents section/ section for black users.

@SimonJT

I do think it is needed, the multicutural section isn’t adequate as culture doesn’t mean non-white, but it is also in a parenting specific area, where as someone may want to talk about employment, places to live, hair and beauty etc.

The frothy racists may invade with their racist comments from time to time, like the poster who requires people to prove their ethnicity to MN if that ethnicity isn’t a white one. Or the handful of posters who have PM’d me to complain that I have mentioned my ethnicity, or MNHQ who once deleted one of my posts because mentioning my ethnicity was something that “we can’t leave things like that stand, I’m afraid”.

They said WHAT? That is disgusting. What possibly justification can there be for that? Did they ever explain themselves?

@OhTheRoses

May I respectfully suggest *@PatricksRum* that if you moderated your language and responded less defensively you would have more success in winning an argument overall.

You did not just say that!!

As a white person, I totally get why black people might want such a forum. I hope that MNHQ actions your request.

My only concern would be that such a board would act as a magnet for a certain type of white person, and it would be a shame if disussions got hijacked by people with their own agendas. Some careful thought would therefore need to be given to how to monitor and moderate the boards.

@Smallsteps88

[quote OhTheRoses]
May I respectfully suggest @PatricksRum that if you moderated your language and responded less defensively you would have more success in winning an argument overall.

You did not just say that!![/quote]
I know, right?

Interesting you make an incorrect assumption about my ethnicity! Don't assume

I'll assume, thanks 😁👍

My only concern would be that such a board would act as a magnet for a certain type of white person, and it would be a shame if disussions got hijacked by people with their own agendas. Some careful thought would therefore need to be given to how to monitor and moderate the boards

Delete and block the racists. They do it already for the transphobic/homophobic/misogynistic posts.

I don't think anybody should be surprised or upset when a section of white people inevitably ask for a space (not necessarily on Mumsnet) specifically for white people.

Don't be ridiculous.

This is a great idea PatricksRum

If black people want their own board, fine. But with such an argument I don't think anybody should be surprised or upset when a section of white people inevitably ask for a space (not necessarily on Mumsnet)specifically forwhite people

Nobody would be surprised when it happens. That's what always happens when a subsection of society dares to try and have something for themselves.

I've reported countless deeply misogynistic posts and never once have I been successful in having them deleted.

I think it's a great idea.

@Youngatheart00

Then you will continue to make embarrassing incorrect assumptions.

@PapaPoule

It's not segregating, it's having a space specifically for

If black people want their own board, fine. But with such an argument I don't think anybody should be surprised or upset when a section of white people inevitably ask for a space (not necessarily on Mumsnet) specifically for white people.

Yeah? And a Heterosexuals topic. And a non-disabled topic. And a neurotypical topic Cos weve got LGBT, parents with disabilities, special needs and so on.

I wonder how many people have looked at the LGBT topic and emailed MN saying well that's not right. We should have a hetrosexual topic if there's an LGBT one. It's only fair...

@PapaPoule

It's not segregating, it's having a space specifically for

If black people want their own board, fine. But with such an argument I don't think anybody should be surprised or upset when a section of white people inevitably ask for a space (not necessarily on Mumsnet) specifically for white people.

Guess what that’s the sound of?

I post in Multicultural Families (I'm white, DD isn't). But it's not widely used and it's all about families unlike, say, Scotsnet.

(And we don't have an Englandnet)

If you want a space specifically to discuss these issues, that’s fine and really up to MNHQ to provide it.

But this:

We ask nicely. White people still kill us
We protest peacefully. White people still kill us

is incredibly inflammatory and actually not statistically true. What’s the point of such overblown rhetoric?

Delete and block the racists.

Yeah, totally, although tbf, that should be happening on all of the boards anyway.

I was just thinking about the potential for posters to have to start explaining stuff to people who just don't get it, and that this could end up sidetracking conversations. Also, the kind of people who would go on to such a forum posting "innocent" questions....

I think MNHQ would need to be quite rigorous in policing the boards to ensure that they weren't "invaded" by people with other motives.

Seriously why do people care? A board for black people will not affect me negatively in any way (I am white). I think it's a great idea.

Considering the norm for everything is seen as a white norm e.g. hair then yes!

Tbh as a white woman, I feel like my role in these kinds of discussions is to sit down, shut up and listen to what the people who have lived these experiences have to say. So I'm not going to blether on about the whys and why nots but I will just say that if the OP and other black mners want their own space within mumsnet, then they are best placed to know that, and I think they should have it. Op I'm sorry about some of the responses you've had to handle here.

(And I'm fed up of "just send your DD to that 99% white school, Norfolk is fine for holidays, my neighbour's cousin's uncle went there and nobody shouted the P word. It would be good to have a space like Feminism Chat to ask sensible questions)

@PapaPoule

It's not segregating, it's having a space specifically for

If black people want their own board, fine. But with such an argument I don't think anybody should be surprised or upset when a section of white people inevitably ask for a space (not necessarily on Mumsnet) specifically for white people.

So by that token there should also be boards for straight people, boards for able bodied people etc...

The reason specific boards are there is to support marginalised groups.

It's actually racist of mumsnet users to not realise they're being ignorant. There are a million of things specific to black women that you couldn't just easily post about. It would always have to be suffixed something like 'black hair only.