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Black section on MN

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PatricksRum · 09/09/2020 03:16

I think it would be great if Mumsnet could make a black parents section/ section for black users.

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IamTomHanks · 09/09/2020 07:21

It's not segregation unless they tell white people they can't post in it, or black people they can't post in the "white section". It's just a space to discuss issues unique to BAME, and seek BAME opinions. Just because it won't appeal to white people half the time doesn't mean it's segregated.

Great idea Op.

PatricksRum · 09/09/2020 07:23

@OhTheRoses

Perhaps you have hit the nail on the head there *@PatricksRum*. If there were fewer differences and higher expectations then perhaps outcomes for children would be better. I would include in that white working class boys.
Ffffssssss.

You can be working class and black

This isn't about working class.

This is about BLACK PEOPLE.

Let us have our topic.

How many times does a white person want to say what about

What about just listening

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PatricksRum · 09/09/2020 07:25

@IamTomHanks

It's not segregation unless they tell white people they can't post in it, or black people they can't post in the "white section". It's just a space to discuss issues unique to BAME, and seek BAME opinions. Just because it won't appeal to white people half the time doesn't mean it's segregated.

Great idea Op.

100%

It would be great if white people visited also, I imagine it would be eye-opening.

See, this post for example, I would love to post it without white people coming on and screaming what about. I clearly can't do that on an existing topic.

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Interested in this thread?

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CatsFantastic · 09/09/2020 07:26

But there is already a sub-forum. And the OP didn’t know it existed !

PatricksRum · 09/09/2020 07:28

@CatsFantastic

But there is already a sub-forum. And the OP didn’t know it existed !
There's no topic specifically for black subjects.

Multicultural families is not the same.

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IamTomHanks · 09/09/2020 07:29

See, this post for example, I would love to post it without white people coming on and screaming what about.

To be fair, no matter where you post you won't be able to stop white people from coming on it and making it about them. It's what we do. Grin

However, it could help cut down on the number of white people doing it. And it gives you a focal point posting about issues. Win, win, win.

slipperywhensparticus · 09/09/2020 07:29

Do white parents have the talk?

Yes I constantly have to explain racism in this house my 11 year old questions why it exists he has sen and is very rigid in his thinking he cannot consider how this happens he does not get it at all cannot understand why people behave that way will question for days and days why why why then go back to ignoring colour like it doesn't exist his friends are Sikh and Chinese he sees no difference they are just 11 year old boys like him he tries to understand "humanity" but fails

PatricksRum · 09/09/2020 07:31

@slipperywhensparticus

Do white parents have the talk?

Yes I constantly have to explain racism in this house my 11 year old questions why it exists he has sen and is very rigid in his thinking he cannot consider how this happens he does not get it at all cannot understand why people behave that way will question for days and days why why why then go back to ignoring colour like it doesn't exist his friends are Sikh and Chinese he sees no difference they are just 11 year old boys like him he tries to understand "humanity" but fails

I think you're misunderstanding what The Talk is.
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slipperywhensparticus · 09/09/2020 07:32

Prove they are white people? The most racist person I ever met was black and he was racist to black people just to be clear

There is no colour in the username you write behind

PatricksRum · 09/09/2020 07:32

@OhTheRoses

May I respectfully suggest *@PatricksRum* that if you moderated your language and responded less defensively you would have more success in winning an argument overall.
May I respectfully suggest that I won't do that Smile

Aggressive black woman. Heard it before.

We ask nicely. White people still kill us.
We protest peacefully. White people still kill us.

I'll do it my own way.

Thanks
Black woman

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slipperywhensparticus · 09/09/2020 07:33

Forget it discussion is not your thing im out

autumnhare · 09/09/2020 07:33

I think it's a great idea and I'm struggling to see why people would have a problem with this. If there's sections for LGBT+ and feminism etc then why shouldn't there be a section for black people to discuss aspects of parenting/their lives?

CatsFantastic · 09/09/2020 07:35

Apologies I misunderstood. Do you want a topic that is specifically for Black skinned posters of African descent where you don’t have to bother correcting the assumption you are white ?

Unless you make it a private board which MN doesn’t do can’t see how it would be any different to any other board to be honest. You will still get the same issues on there.

MidnightCitrus · 09/09/2020 07:36

@BullshitVivienne

Sounds like a good idea to me, as a white person. Also think anyone white who goes on there to post a "genuine question" (the goadiest phrase) or asks black people to explain something to them should be banned.
How do i learn if I cannot.ask questions? (Taking your comment on face value)
IamTomHanks · 09/09/2020 07:37

I'm struggling to see why people would have a problem with this.

Because apparently the OP isn't asking in a respectful manner to those who consider themselves her superior. How dare she not "moderate her language and respond less defensively".

Fucks sake. Angry

We'll have some men on here telling you to smile next OP.

PicsInRed · 09/09/2020 07:37

@OhTheRoses

May I respectfully suggest *@PatricksRum* that if you moderated your language and responded less defensively you would have more success in winning an argument overall.
😂😂😂

OP, these responses have proven your point beautifully. I hope MNHQ come though on this.

PatricksRum · 09/09/2020 07:37

@autumnhare

I think it's a great idea and I'm struggling to see why people would have a problem with this. If there's sections for LGBT+ and feminism etc then why shouldn't there be a section for black people to discuss aspects of parenting/their lives?
Valid point.

I see no one has to defend those boards.

It's just black people being told to shut up once again.

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autumnhare · 09/09/2020 07:37

I'm white myself but by golly, some of these replies reek of white fragility and defensiveness!

BullshitVivienne · 09/09/2020 07:37

I cannot believe how pissy some people are being. Going to report a few posts and see just how seriously MNHQ takes racism.

PatricksRum · 09/09/2020 07:38

@CatsFantastic

Apologies I misunderstood. Do you want a topic that is specifically for Black skinned posters of African descent where you don’t have to bother correcting the assumption you are white ?

Unless you make it a private board which MN doesn’t do can’t see how it would be any different to any other board to be honest. You will still get the same issues on there.

Think you've "slightly" missed the point.
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MidnightCitrus · 09/09/2020 07:39

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VettiyaIruken · 09/09/2020 07:39

It's absolutely needed.
The fact some posters can't even see why it's needed is part of the problem!

Pelleas · 09/09/2020 07:39

I'm not black but I think it sounds like a good idea. There are already topics based on cultural identity and location - e.g. Craicnet. I know that isn't the same thing as race, but the broad principle of a forum space where people can discuss things within a common frame of reference is similar.

Hope MNHQ can implement this for you, OP.

PatricksRum · 09/09/2020 07:39

Autumn, Pics, TomHanks
Thank you all

The comments speak for themselves

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