ADs skipping to school - and that's only the parents

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I try to look for hope and find joy. So here is what I have for today:

-My 3rd try at growing spinch is working beautifully. Little cotyledons are popping up everywhere.

-I am really enjoying a new computer game I have that DH and I are playing together.

-I have a DH who I can be my whole self with and who I love and who loves me.

-My best friend and I started couch to 5K today and I enjoyed it.

• I have 3 DC who can, at times, be PITAs but who have good hearts.

• this is silly but I was waspish about staggered times in the pickup queue today and nothing horrible happened.

-you all exist so I know that I am not alone

Could all thosr things make a decent Patronus? I think so.

You're born and then you die. But the bit in the middle is called Life David Lister (Red Dwarf)

disorganisedsecretsquirrel, I feel for you. Would it help if I suggest that you ask yourself what you would have done this time last year, assuming you were in the same position health-wise then?

Covid is a new virus and HMG and the media are keeping it very much in our minds, but there are many viruses (and bacteria and prions and fungi) that were with us a year ago. Many of them are as likely, some more, to kill a vulnerable person; some people are more vulnerable to one pathogen, some another. Some are more infectious/contagious than Covid. Many have vaccines or treatment but none are 100% effective.

You say you are vulnerable to pneumonia and sepsis. The presence of Covid hasn't changed that. It's one more virus among many. Covid seems to spread the same way as many viruses. What do you do to reduce your risk from those from other pathogens?

I hope you don't think I'm trying to belittle your concerns, quite the opposite. But I'm hoping to offer a perspective on your dilemma. And if you find it unhelpful, I'm sorry, it wasn't intended to be.

Sorry for the double post.

@BogRollBOGOF
Don't forget the distinction between dementor and critical.
The dementor feeds on the misery and sucks away the hope and happiness.
The critic acknowledges it's shit, looks at the hypocrisy, picks at the holes in the logic, offers comfort to those who need it and looks forward to the better days when sense will prevail.

And the dementor thinks everyone should think they same way they do, follow their interpretation of the rules (plus more that they make up) and insults anyone who doesn't, calls them names and often uncritically repeats things they've read, thinking it makes them clever.

[quote justasking111]@disorganisedsecretsquirrel my friend sans spleen had pneumonia during the height of the covid deaths hospitalisations in my area. He is 60, now bounced back again, walking and climbing so please try not to worry.[/quote]
Thank you!!!

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do?fbclid=IwAR0LPhSWU2nqQWd2jlVipk4nWkJNF1Mq4Le7lHit8g1VGXCOjvXAONMfPfA

Apparently playgroups and youth groups are fine, so just ensure you have lukewarm squash available at your gatherings and you are golden.

(Seriously though should be good news for scouts etc)

I feel like this country is finished to be honest.

@Funkypolar

I feel like this country is finished to be honest.

If it was only us being this stupid I'd agree but countries seemingly want to outdo each other in stupidity

I want to move to Sweden

@albazavi

I'm so sorry that everyone is feeling so low today. It really is shit. Were a family of 5 so will have to break the rules if we want to see grandparents or any other friends. And gone will be our forest school classes which is the only toddler group I felt safe doing because its outside in all weathers. So the last half of maternity leave will be spent on my own almost in lockdown again. Ffs. I might as well go back to work- except I work in a school of 2000 children so not the safest place to go back to.

Kids play groups are exempt so should still go ahead. If you are already seeing gps in your family bubble you still can or if they or you rely on the contact. There are l8ts if exemptions which mske the whole thing ridiculous. You can go play team sports but not see family? Its madness.

@DominaShantotto

I think we're all tired and hopeless feeling on here at the moment - give us a few days and we'll be back to novelty shaped rude looking vegetables and normal service.

For now this is my current attitude to the world and it all (don't click if you don't like swearing):

(Apologies to those in another place who've seen it already)

I love that even though i have now seen it more than once.😃 Sums it up really.

The gov update has cheered me up and put hope back in. Some of my scouting pages are sharing it around. All quiet in GG, but they have to operate to the same body and standards.

Should be no change for my fitness groups either.

These are things that I was struggling over in June when there were initial relaxations that were of no benefit to a family of 4, yet people were going on as though it was all over and we were still weeks away from even the flipping playgrounds opening.

Surely the fairest playing field on families/ singles would be discouting children (say u16 from looking at the data at the conference) from the 6 quota.
People should be allowed to meet outside in public places like parks too. Increasingly the evidence is that this is an indoor problem not outdoors. Gardens, I can see the arguement that it's too easy for people to slip indoors, but ultimately people are just going to hide away in eachother's houses anyway, more so if they risk being snitched up for sensibly social distancing in the garden which is not the real problem.

@HepzibahGreen well thankfully we’re still in a democracy so you’d have all voted for two of you to be forcibly ejected from the house and to live in the shed UNTIL A VACCINE IS AVAILABLE.

Marshalls would assist in the eviction of the chosen candidates refused to leave the family home.

Just for some morbid fun, glancing at this morning's spin machine, here is my take on what the papers say, and what they really mean, which are rarely the same:

• Boris touching his face: the autumn edition of the spring facepalm, he's using his hand as a chin hammock, looking old and worn so we feel sorry for him.

• "Trump said he played down virus on purpose": well, he's honest about it. Boris will never admit the same thing. (I'm not advocating Trump by the way, but that's probably one reason why lots of people voted for him, the "honesty".)

• "Citizens will need to participate regularly and isolate reliably (Guardian)": and the Gov will hope they will, because they lack the means to enforce it. Nothing new there.

• "Sweeping new powers": likely to be total spin. What can the police do from next week that they couldn't yesterday? They've always had the power to issue fines. The only thing that's changed is the number of people allowed.

• "Army of enforcers": the same vigilantes who have been doing it since March: the gov knows that they are on hand. It's certainly not the police, and I'll believe in the unicorns dressed as marshals when I see them.

I don't know what's going to happen on Hallowe'en. In theory, trick or treating in small groups is allowed under the latest roolz, but the gov are bound to say something, perhaps on the same day. Perhaps Saint Boris (perhaps dressed in a silly outfit?) will talk of "police cracking down", "Hallowe'en patrols", but that's something that is said every year anyway, which often doesn't happen because there isn't the manpower. Perhaps Saint Boris will do his "look, I'm a nice guy" one-day amnesty act, and then blame the public the day after.

Here also is a new mixed message. "Get tested, don't get tested." The general message was "get tested" (and it's not a pleasant test), but they're accusing people of wasting tests if they don't have enough symptoms.

There's almost no mention of masks: that was the thing we were all furious about not so long ago. The spin machine has got bored of that.

I'm not wanting to trivialise the restrictions (and I'm one of those who thinks lockdown should never have happened for such a questionable danger), but amidst this new announcement, so far we must remember that a lot more is running than it was in April, especially the schools. I doubt if this is "the panicked reaction" the papers are making it out to be; I've no doubt this move was planned well in advance. I expect that in December, well see an "Advent calendar of what's allowed on certain days".

I agree its almost certainly much less than it looks - I think the Gov just wanted to look vaguely in control, panic people and probably distract everyone from the testing meltdown. Its the transparent manipulation thats the worst. And the mad logic of six people from six households being fine, but seven people from two households being Just Too Infectious

I'm rebelling. By living my life.

BUT..,

I treated myself to a ruinously expensive hedgehog box.. and there is a hedgehog in it!

@BillywilliamV

BUT..,

I treated myself to a ruinously expensive hedgehog box.. and there is a hedgehog in it!

Ooh lovely!! I was thinking not building one with DD. She has her own proper tool set inherited from my DBro, because it's from the 70s it gives zero fucks re child safety, it's just smaller, equally sharp and pointy versions of adult tools. She needs to decent project to use it properly. It's this the right time of year for putting a box out?

Thinking OF building one

If you all could assume I've corrected the other typos too that'd be great....

Can we have some photos of the hog?

@TheOrchidKiller thank you ☺️

@disorganisedsecretsquirrel I feel for you too. I don't think I could stand not living my life though even if I was ill. At some point the pain becomes greater.

Looking at things with fresh eyes this morning - I don't think we need to do anything to stop this madness happen. It will crumble under its own weight.

Watching middle class, cushy , government jobs people talking about this virus makes me so angry. All they see is their work from home cushy jobs, and keeping safe from the virus. They don't see how it could possibly impact them. Champagne socialists ?

Weirdly enough, as a "household" of 1, with friends who are mainly single or couples, I'm slightly better off under the new rules. Up to now it was two households indoors, so I could have a single friend round, or go to the pub with a couple I know. But now - I could now basically have a smallish dinner party! As long as we observe social distancing within my not enormous house, and as long as I can entice my more risk-averse friends indoors when winter comes.

I felt quite panicky yesterday, but when I actually sat down and thought about it, I realised, for my h and me, actually it means little change, being the childless old farts that we are.
I think the whole thing is totally bonkers (in the way it is being handled), so I have decided to ignore it as much as I can, otherwise I think I will sink into a deep depression. I am going to settle down for winter, make chutneys and jellies, order logs and good books for my kindle. However, I live in hope that, at some point, the larger part of the population will rise up and shout 'fuck off' in the government's face. I am heartened by remembering the galvanising effect the poll tax riots had on Maggie Thatcher and her government. They are only managing to behave in such a contrary way because we are letting them.

I am heartened by remembering the galvanising effect the poll tax riots had on Maggie Thatcher and her government.
I am genuinely surprised riots didn't happen back in March. Are we totally spineless?

I’ve just had the much fabled telephone GP spot. You know, the one where they’ll phone between 8 and 11. But they’ll time it so you’re on the throne. 😳