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ADs skipping to school - and that's only the parents

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RealityExistsInTheHumanMind · 03/09/2020 09:58

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SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 06/09/2020 12:16

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DominaShantotto · 06/09/2020 12:26

I'm in Us For Them too - the best way I can describe it is it can get a bit Netmums at times. Definitely not right wing - which has just become the latest insult of choice - you're either a Trump supporter or a Karen if you query any of the shit going on in general and they're getting that stuff thrown at them.

Fair few parents of kids with additional needs on there who are concerned about things like communication difficulties to be fair.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 06/09/2020 12:27

the best way I can describe it is it can get a bit Netmums at times.

Ha, totally accurate!

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justasking111 · 06/09/2020 13:07

Having a duvet day. Finally succumbed to the families summer cold. Last one amongst 12 of us. And no none of us went for a test atchoo

WouldBeGood · 06/09/2020 14:14

Us For Them Scotland is getting a bit bonkers with conspiracy theories and anti vaxxers, to be honest. I’m a bit annoyed as have tried to defend them but I think I’ll leave it as at least the schools are back. There is the occasional interesting article or analysis too.

WouldBeGood · 06/09/2020 14:15

@justasking111 get well soon 🤧

Littlebelina · 06/09/2020 14:17

@DominaShantotto

I'm in Us For Them too - the best way I can describe it is it can get a bit Netmums at times. Definitely not right wing - which has just become the latest insult of choice - you're either a Trump supporter or a Karen if you query any of the shit going on in general and they're getting that stuff thrown at them.

Fair few parents of kids with additional needs on there who are concerned about things like communication difficulties to be fair.

Yes, definitely seen Karen thrown about as an insult to imply anyone who wants their kid back in school is an entitled arse who wants to go back to drinking coffee and avoid parenting. Nope, want my child in school to learn and so I can work. Is being a bit netmums better or worse than being right wingWinkGrin

There was definitely an element on mumsnet denying the impact on mothers during the schools closure. You were made out to be inadequate if for whatever reason your partner couldn't take an equal share ( in our case I can home work more easily than him). It was most odd from what I see as a site mainly fir women that is usually highly feminist.

Dowser · 06/09/2020 15:03

Dr Malcolm Kendrick appears to be a voice of reason
drmalcolmkendrick.org/author/drmalcolmkendrick/

Dowser · 06/09/2020 15:08

The guy whose heart stopped beating in Sheffield is on the mend thankfully

I’ve not seen anything in msm .
In the video I watched this morning he appeared to have hit his head. He looked a bit dazed when he sat up.
A woman kept asking if he was ok. She kept appealing to police to give him so assistance.
No one came to see how he was.
He kept rubbing his chest and then went flat out cold

clackymules · 06/09/2020 15:28

Hello all, been lurking on these AD threads a while but never posted before.

I've just read that Dr Malcolm Kendrick article that Dowser posted a link to. Makes for very interesting reading! If he's right (and I suspect he just might be) then we could all have been lockdowned - and continue to be threatened with further lockdowns - all so some people can continue to have egg-free faces. Wow.

TheOrchidKiller · 06/09/2020 15:46

@Dowser
Dr Malcolm Kendrick appears to be a voice of reason
drmalcolmkendrick.org/author/drmalcolmkendrick/

Dr. Malcolm makes me feel optimistic & sad at the same time. There's all this panic about rising cases & government watchlists, & a small number of voices saying calmly, "but they're not all getting sick & dying."

And for every person saying that (I include myself here) there seem to be 2 more people saying, "ah yes, but they could spread it around & still kill someone." So the guilt is piled on, & we live in fear of further restrictions on our lives.

I like that he says there are asymptomatic people testing positive just because they have a bit of covid lodged up their nose. I bet we all have some nasty things lodged up our noses or on our hands which may or may not cause serious harm, depending on your health, & whether or not the conditions are right for the bacteria or viruses to grow & attack your immune system.
I seem to remember being told many people will have MRSA living up their noses with no harm done to them at all. But there's a risk to others in certain situations, hence screening for MRSA in hospitals.

Every second thread on here today seems to be about someone or their DC having a cold & what should they do? I don't blame anyone for asking, I'd be in that quandary too. Many people are being told to get tested anyway- again, I kind of don't blame anyone for suggesting it, but quite often it's suggested "for peace of mind," & it feels disconcerting that we are having to rely on a test all the time, to confirm that we only have a minor ailment. I'm not sure how that's going to help society longer-term if people feel they need a test in response to common symptoms. It's hard enough persuading people to get advice from their pharmacist, or to avoid antibiotic over-use.

BogRollBOGOF · 06/09/2020 15:51

I'm trying to keep the context of what we knew in Feb/ March and how alarming it seemed to be in my head. It's this ongoing paranoia and upheaval of life stopping things going back to normal that grinds on me, and there just hasn't seemed to be the evidence to justify it since late May/ June. "Cases" i.e. positive tests have not for 3+ months now translated into a significant additional strain on the NHS and significant additional threat to life and long term wellbeing compared to all the other hazards of existing.

When they're now scaremongering over the "cases"/ test results identified through widespread testing, we're basically being asked to be terrified into submission for something that is often less serious a headcold. I know it's not that clear cut, and some people are clearly ill, some hospitalised and some dying, but life is ultimately a giant game of Russian Roulette which we all will lose in the end.

Why couldn't the politicians have said "We did it! We saved the NHS! The track and trace is working. We are managing and living with the virus without devestating consequences to society. We have been sucessful."

But no. The misery and inconvenience limps on.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 06/09/2020 16:05

Why couldn't the politicians have said "We did it! We saved the NHS! The track and trace is working. We are managing and living with the virus without devestating consequences to society. We have been sucessful."

Yes! If this was the message being put out then we would see a change in perception and confidence - we'd see people getting back to work, the city centres picking back up. All the time the gov & media keep doom mongering people will stay worried. Why can't they focus on the positive news?

BogRollBOGOF · 06/09/2020 16:08

Swimming starts tommorrow.

In order to arrive pool ready, DS2 will have to put on his swimming trunks at 8am and wear them all day at school. It's all about the hygiene eh Wink

DS1 now finishes at 3:20. We get to the house at 3:25 (I'm not moving my car at 2 pm to park 150m closer to the school than I live and moving the car around the block to park 50m away from my house!)
The DCs will have to get straight into the car. If they go into the house, 10 mins will be lost. It takes 25 minutes to get to the pool, park up and get into the building. More if the traffic is bad. It's going to be a battle not to be late and we were routinely late before we lost an extra 5 minutes on school times. The one way system does not facilitate changing prior to the lesson.

Then from DS2 changing from 4:30 until DS1 swims at 5:30 we have to hang around in the car. We don't leave the site until about 6:15.

Then I'll have to do battle with the shower at home.

It never was a convenient night, but we used to fill the time with "family float fun" which was much more enjoyable. When DS1 got his diagnosis last winter we started using the disabled changing as he gets slower and less organised through the evening and still needs helping. It was also a quieter, more restful environment which helped a lot too.

I'm looking forwards to them swimming again, but I'm not looking forwards to the new protocols!

If the weather is kind then we might be able to break the tedium with a walk in the park in between.

Ibake · 06/09/2020 16:11

Wow @dowser. That's quite some article!

forgetthehousework · 06/09/2020 16:24

I'm quite happy to hope that Malcolm Kendrick is correct in his article, but I'll admit I didn't really take to his rather smug 'everyone got it wrong but me' tone.

Bollss · 06/09/2020 16:29

I mean... It's plausible. I don't think for a minute the government will ever admit they got it wrong.

forgetthehousework · 06/09/2020 16:29

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

Why couldn't the politicians have said "We did it! We saved the NHS! The track and trace is working. We are managing and living with the virus without devestating consequences to society. We have been sucessful."

Yes! If this was the message being put out then we would see a change in perception and confidence - we'd see people getting back to work, the city centres picking back up. All the time the gov & media keep doom mongering people will stay worried. Why can't they focus on the positive news?

Because they never do! Other that the obligatory final snippet which has to be either heartwarming or funny (although they are usually more maudlin and painfully unfunny). I think they must have some kind of formula ...
Pixel77 · 06/09/2020 16:34

Our school have told us a local booze shop have said we can drop them off in their carpark which was good I guess. (secondary) and it is oddly more flexible than before (anytime from 8 till 8.20) so rather than staggering starts just making it a bit more open as to time. Then they leave 10mins between year groups at the end. They have always been pretty good with the early start and do hot breakfasts as well think to help working parents who need to drop off early. So quite lucky there perhaps.

the primary must be such a tricky one as it is city but tiny roads and already a very congested one way system prior to this. Now they are asking different year groups to do things like drop off at a gate in a field, for example and other places, it must be very difficult, was well as being at different times as well. I don't have any there anymore so don't have that to deal with at least.

Pixel77 · 06/09/2020 16:37

I think it might be felt that they would lose control, I will find something which was just on this exact thing (about not being positive).

www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/sitting-comfortably-not-six-oclock-news/

Willow2017 · 06/09/2020 16:46

Just saw this. Highly relevant I think although maybe swap tyrant for "completely useless governments" 🤣🤣🤣

"The welfare of the people is the alibi of the tyrant."

Ibake · 06/09/2020 16:48

Lol @forgetthehousework, I know what you mean but it didn't bother me too much as it's only going to be what all us AD's will be like when all this is over! I've already had a couple of friends change tack and say 'you've been saying this for a while now haven't you?' I try to be very gracious in my response Grin

The article is getting retweeted everywhere but my worry is he gets dismissed as a crank because he's got extremely controversial views on cholesterol and statins.

Pixel77 · 06/09/2020 16:56

I have read the Cholesterol Code when I had a brief phase of doing keto and it is quite controversial. Of the cholesterol is fine and statins are bad type. I'm a bit unsure. It was interesting though.

I think what he is missing from his rates is it might vary a lot on the underlying health of the population and age. He uses Iceland as an example but they tend to have pretty good health, and are mainly white.

However I agree with the overall message, it just might be a bit more nuanced than 'it's all over'

WouldBeGood · 06/09/2020 17:45

@SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito

Why couldn't the politicians have said "We did it! We saved the NHS! The track and trace is working. We are managing and living with the virus without devestating consequences to society. We have been sucessful."

Yes! If this was the message being put out then we would see a change in perception and confidence - we'd see people getting back to work, the city centres picking back up. All the time the gov & media keep doom mongering people will stay worried. Why can't they focus on the positive news?

Yes, this would make much more sense.

I think more and more people are beginning to be fed up of being treated like this though. Despite the media/uk governments.

profpoopsnagle · 06/09/2020 18:05

Bogroll, I don't go beach ready to the pool, it's my way of breaking the ridiculous and pointless rules. And I'd just forget my pants.