What is going on with Britney?

[BabylovesJohnny]

Just that really. I was early teens when she first appeared on the scene and I’ve always had a soft spot for her. She’s obviously got issues but I thought she was in a good place until recently. Her instagram account suggests otherwise. Has anyone else noticed? I hope she’s ok.

@Bluntness100

If she has this dementia and cannot make discussions for herself to keep herself safe how sure can we be she is actually competent enough to fully consent to training schedules for shows, how many shows, what she wears etc?

We can’t. Nor should we be able to. She is not public property. Those around her are the ones enabled to make that decision, in light of the full facts. And that includes, doctors, lawyers, courts, and her family.

“We” have fuck all to do with it.

So I suppose then people's genuine concern that her family are laying these drs etc could actual be founded.

Absolutely agree that in many ways it's non of our business. But then again if you felt your elderly neighbour was being taken advantage of by their family people would be assign report to social care, the same way people report families to child services.

Safeguarding individuals is a public responsibility.

I know nothing or her case but can see why some of the concerns raised could be valid.

She is re-evaluated every year. Fights it because who wouldn’t if they had the money to. Never saw the children without supervision anyway, now she sees them with supervision on the condition it is not her dad who supervises.

I think her diagnosis is likely to be much more complex than anyone not involved in her care can fully understand, and that’s where freebritney misses the mark. It’s not comparable to so and so down the road who has bipolar and lives freely but doesn’t have a public persona and millions in the bank. There does need to be some discussion about autonomy and mental illness but in this case it’s not like her conservatorship was decided in 2007 and remains the same. It is re-evaluated every year. She was sectioned several times.

I think it’s a bit ghoulish to even watch her Instagram

Britney isn’t your neighbour then, and a statement like safeguarding is a public responsibility is in one element true when we see something to cause concern be it your neighbour being beaten or their kids going through the bins for food.

But with Britney Spears it is nothing more than a veiled entitlement to information on her private life. You, me, every single one of us have no entitlement to that information.

She is looked after my teams if doctors, lawyers, her family and the courts. Past that no you do t have a right to know under the guise of safeguarding.

It is not your job to safeguard Britney Spears. It is not your job to demand information on her private life. She is entitled to her private life. If the courts are satisfied she is being cared for appropriately then you do not have the right to position yourself above the court and decide you too need to know as you personally wish to safeguard her.

Her current conservator is a court appointed professional, licensed and bonded by the state so hardly a puppet employed by her family. At the last review of the order the court appointed a doctor to compile a medical report before making their decision, so again someone outside of the familys employment. Her father for his part has greatly increased her personal wealth over the last twelve years which speaks of some degree of work/investment rather than his just springing off her. As for Britney herself, she has the legal ability to file a formal opposition to the order and at review hearings has the opportunity to state that she is contesting it. Given that she has never contested it, wouldn't that suggest she is okay with it?

There is obviously more going on with her health and her personal life than "the fans" k ow about, they don't own her and they have no right to her private medical information yet seem to think they're qualified to decide she's perfectly healthy and a prisoner?

Blunt I have no intentions of trying to safeguard her. I know nothing of the case. But it is understandable people have concerns.
If no one ever had and expressed covered for individuals - neighbours, your local check out girl, family friends or even those in public eye then so much more would go on behind closed doors that damages people forever.

But I don't think people's concerns should automatically be dismissed either because others think they know what care she is getting and who does what and how often she's assessed.

Unless you are actually her dad!

@HairyToity

I never approve of Britneys treatment. Surely if she is so ill she needs a conservator, she shouldn't be doing her Vegas shows.

It feels that all her family care about is the money.

Totally agree. I don't think she's well and potentially does need the conservatorship. What pains me is the people looking after her welfare are happy enough for her to go on tour, record albums and make a shit ton of money, but she has to ask permission to buy a starbucks. I'm not sure where the boyfriend fits in either

Does she have to ask permission to buy a Starbucks? Have you witnessed this? Because in most cases where someone needs a guardian they are given an allowance to spend as they chose so that they have some independence but central funds are managed by their guardian so they can't do things that would be harmful to them like blowing the mortgage payment on magic beans.

And why shouldn't people with illnesses or disabilities continue to work if they so choose? She's built a career in performing so that's where she works, it's no different to someone continuing to work in Tesco or a call centre for as long as they're able to do so.

Maybe she enjoys performing and it’s something that makes her feel some normality. Everyone focuses on the money side of it, acting like her family are milking her dry when maybe they are doing everything they can to stop her giving up and just rotting away in her mansion, deteriorating while she waits counting down to when she can next see her boys.

There is nothing wrong with concern.

What is wrong is the free Britney campaign, when people are basically accusing her parents, thr doctors, the lawyers, the courts of in some way in prisoning and exploiting this woman, of abusing her.

That’s not concern however you dress it up, it’s salacious gossip.

Britney Spears has independent reviews, she is not locked up in some room whilst others control her and talk for her, that much is factually known, at her last review she asked for her mother to be part of the conservatoire. The courts have been ordering independent reviews of her health. She personally is not contesting and she has the opportunity to do so.

Do peoooe really think the independent doctors etc who the courts appoint to review her case and work with her are also in on it and colluding to lock her up? The idea is beyond ludicrous. And quite frankly it’s quite sickening when you think about it.

When people judge on here a parent with a child with additional needs, they are called all the cunts under the sun. For judging without knowing the facts.

But apparently it’s absolutely fine to hurl abuse and judge Britney Spears parents, to accuse them of locking up their child, of drugging her, exploiting her, controlling her, abusing her.

Apparently that’s just safeguarding and concern.

@HairyToity

I never approve of Britneys treatment. Surely if she is so ill she needs a conservator, she shouldn't be doing her Vegas shows.

It feels that all her family care about is the money.

That's my thought. If she is that unwell why is she being used to fun the family in such a way. It seems like they want money amd control its disgusting

It's absolutely terrible what appears to be happening to her. I don't understand why she even has an Instagram account if she isn't well to this extent? Surely it's totally inappropriate, exploitative and unnecessary? It's so weird.

Forcing her to give up her Instagram and denying her access to social media (which many people with disabilities or mental health problems rely on as a way of connecting with the outside world) would be perceived as an overly harsh and unnecessary oppression.

I'm surprised that people apparently can't see that she's been exploited very publicly by stage parents from the time she was a child, same with her sister.

Do her teeth look different?

The fact she has an insta shows she is capable to an extent. It seems more around safeguarding issues imo. The fact she's possibly more of a danger to herself

Forcing her to give up her Instagram and denying her access to social media (which many people with disabilities or mental health problems rely on as a way of connecting with the outside world) would be perceived as an overly harsh and unnecessary oppression.

But if she has no control over it and isn't running it herself, shes not getting anything out of it anyway?

I’m doubtful that she runs her insta herself, as otherwise surely she would address the numerous comments asking if she’s ok?

She doesn’t have an iPhone.

But if she has no control over it and isn't running it herself, shes not getting anything out of it anyway?

How can anyone but Britney possibly know what she gets out of posing for Instagram? She clearly does get something out of it, or she wouldn't be doing it. Just because someone else monitors it, doesn't mean she has no control - I'm sure someone vetoes any posts Britney wants to make which are inappropriate, but anyone is is forcing her to do workout videos, or pose for random selfies wearing different outfits. That's her choice, which they are allowing her to do. If anything the fact she's making so many posts which are strange and disturbing indicates they aren't being overly rigid in telling her what she is and is not allowed to post.

I follow Britney on Instagram but had not paid much attention as I don't spend much time on SM. I remember watching a video and finding her strange. I didn't think beyond that.

I then watched a couple of others and became aware of all the comments like "she's asking for help" and "Britney, wear pink if you need help".

The videos of her walking back and forth were odd and she sounds like a child her Q&A video.

Whatever is going on, I think something is not right and it's sad. I don't expect to find out more about it though as it's her family's and her business.

All she does is get on stage and dance and lip sync, this does not mean she is capable of making other decisions in her life.

This is a little unfair given Britney's huge success. Talking about her "lip syncing" repeatedly makes it sound like anyone could do what she does and I don't believe that's true.

She's not a mess. She's just not filtered and edited within an inch of her life!

This isn't about how she looks, though that may be a factor. It's about how she behaves.

I never approve of Britneys treatment. Surely if she is so ill she needs a conservator, she shouldn't be doing her Vegas shows

That’s so illogical. She clearly loves dancing. Not being able to make major decisions on your life and multi million dollar fortune doesn’t mean you can’t do other things like Dance routines and lip syncing.

Britney has been performing since she was a young child. You can see from her insta she loves dancing. Why remove that from her if she loves it?

And someone is helping her with her insta, someone is helping her with rhe photos and videos.

Just because she may not be capable of some things, some of the time, doesn’t mean she is not capable of anything, of this is dementia as sighted on the court papers, then it is likely a genetic brain abnormality coupled with learning difficulties. That doesn’t mean she can’t dance and lip sync and do Vegas shows etc. It could well mean she isn’t able to manage her money or make decisions in regards to her own welfare or her children’s.

Doing rhe same thing every single night that you love is not the same as managing millions of pounds, managing relationships or bringing up children,

From [[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/free-britney-spears-conspiracy-father-jamie-court-news-a9650006.html the article]]
In March 2019, Wallet resigned from his role as co-conservator. Appealing for the lifting of Spears’s conservatorship, Wallet said: “Substantial detriment, irreparable harm and immediate danger will result to the conservatee and her estate if the relief requested herein is not granted on an ex parte basis.”

Every penny spent has to be documented for the courts. It's to try and avoid allegations of theft or financial misconduct as well as stopping her harming herself or her ability to perform, it was said she had issues with food iirc.

format fail!

Interestingly when her first marriage was annulled it was on the grounds that she “did not understand the repercussions of her actions”, so there may always have been some known degree of learning difficulty. There’s no reason that would ever come up, stars in the 90’s and early 2000’s didn’t discuss things like that.

Learning all the lyrics and complex dance moves, costume changes etc etc that are part of massive shows and vegas residencies, doesn't fit with learning difficulties or dementia.