What is going on with Britney?

[BabylovesJohnny]

Just that really. I was early teens when she first appeared on the scene and I’ve always had a soft spot for her. She’s obviously got issues but I thought she was in a good place until recently. Her instagram account suggests otherwise. Has anyone else noticed? I hope she’s ok.

[Bluntness100]

They aren’t financially profiting, I think her father takes 100k$ a year, the numbers are also available.

I don’t think it’s right to make claims that she’s being abused by her family, that’s not right at all, because no one knows anything for a fact, if she does have difficulties then it is made worse for her family by spurious claims like this.

[divafever99]

Didn't know anything about this, how sad.

[Dozer]

100k a year would be financially profiting IMO.

[Mydarlingsleepthief]

£100k a year is small change though, in comparison to her wealth. I do thing there’s a big cover up of her problems though, which I presume is for her own benefit 💁‍♀️

[Ginger1982]

I don't think she has ever recovered from her 2007 breakdown and I also believe that her parents have a lot to answer for in terms of all of it.

[Bluntness100]

100k is small, it’s like 70 k gbp and he can’t work whilst he does it. Considering she’s a multi millionaire, it is not much.

[Siablue]

@Bluntness100

100k is small, it’s like 70 k gbp and he can’t work whilst he does it. Considering she’s a multi millionaire, it is not much.

The degree of control he had over her life is chilling though. I know there are many (bonkers) conspiracy theories around this but honestly the information that is available purely from official court documents is enough to convince me that it is abusive.

My mum has power of attorney for my gran who has dementia and the order is rightly not as controlling as this (and my Granny could not do a Vegas residency, much as she would love to).

[TheSpottedZebra]

her dad. He hit one of her kids and that is why she only has about 30% custody She's not had custody for years, since way before that incident. She couldn't keep the children safe.

[cheezy]

I just looked at her Instagram. Her posts are so odd, she doesn’t seem well. How sad.

[Bluntness100]

I don’t think we can make th value judgement the control is chilling. Because there is so much Unknown, and rightly so. She is allowed her privacy. Not one person here knows if the level of control is absolutely required or not. A judge and many doctors clearly felt it was.

This is not like normal dementia, I think the term confuses people, it is often a brain abnormality that becomes apparent in late teens on, and can be from genetics to inherent learning disabilities.

Britney is clearly perfectly capable, and it seems happy to do, a Vegas residency. All she does is get on stage and dance and lip sync, this does not mean she is capable of making other decisions in her life. The fact someone’s granny with Alzheimer’s couldn’t dance and lip sync is simply not relevant. She can. Her diagnoses does not prevent her doing this, she is not the same as someone’s granny,

Folks speculating about abuse, control or any other element is really appalling, because neither Britney or her family are talking about this to thr public, and rightly so.

All we know factually is that she was diagnosed with dementia and other conditions, and has significant mental health issues that have resulted in periodic sectioning. And that her family. Along with other individuals manage her affairs, but involve her in decisions as appropriate and that she is able to get on stage and dance and lip sync and appears to love it.

Th actual details of her conditions and the impacts and limitations that places on her has never been disclosed and is sealed currently.

[cautionhot]

She's not a 5 year old getting up on stage and twirling about. The work and time she'd put into preparing for a show would be tough. "Dancing and lip syncing"

[Bluntness100]

Well of course it’s physically tough and mentally demanding. It doesn’t change the fact that being able to do that does not indicate she is able to make other larger decisions in her life.

[BertieBotts]

Where is the feminism thread about her please?

[Mymycherrypie]

I also agree that looking at her Instagram posts, there is evidence there that she is not well. It’s not schizophrenia or dementia either, it may be an element of both and other disorders. Her Instagram is almost the same as my cousins who has been diagnosed with all of schizophrenia, bipolar, and borderline personality disorder.

If she does have early onset dementia it may be that performing is for her benefit, to give her a level of enrichment.

None of us know or should, really. It’s quite a tragedy for Britney and for her family.

[Mydarlingsleepthief]

She seems very child like in her insta videos, I hope she is ok and has proper support not just people leeching off her

[ODFOkaren]

From looking at her Instagram you can see in her eyes/movements how heavily medicated she is. It’s such a sad situation all round. I just hope her children live some semblance of a normal life - we don’t see them regularly in the press (here at least, maybe that’s different in the US?) so that’s something at least.

[MonsteraCheeseplant]

Dementia is progressive. When it strikes in younger adults it tends to be far more aggressive too. Even from the outside it doesn't seem likely to be dementia. Personality related issues maybe, Bipolar, Schizophrenia maybe. But the dementia diagnosis is confusing.

[Bluntness100]

None of us know or should, really. It’s quite a tragedy for Britney and for her family

This. We shouldn’t know. She deserves her privacy. And people hurling abuse at her family and accusing them of sinister control, abuse, locking her up etc, and then all the ridiculous send us a sign if you need help should stop, is likely to make a very very difficult situation much much worse.

Her issues were clearly not apparent when she was younger, it’s something that’s developed as she’s moved into late teens and twenties. By which time she was a global star, worth millions and everything she did plastered all over the media.

How horrific for her family to have to help her, in the glare of publicity, try to enable her to live her life doing what makes her happy, doing what she sees as normal, and not just lock her away, and to protect her at the same time, from people that would take advantage of her vulnerability, and at the same time have randoms hurling abuse at them and accusing them of heinous behaviour for doing so.

I’d challenge any one with an adult child with multiple issues, be it from learning disabilities to disorders, to wish to try to help them in the glare of publicity and whilst being abused by folks who don’t understand or know the issues.

None of us know what the real situation here is other than there is significant issues at play with her sadly. And that’s all we need to know.

[MonsteraCheeseplant]

Schizophrenia was termed Dementia Praecox when it was first "discovered"/described but that was so long ago it's never called that now.

[tabulahrasa]

@TheSpottedZebra

her dad. He hit one of her kids and that is why she only has about 30% custody She's not had custody for years, since way before that incident. She couldn't keep the children safe.

She had 50/50 until fairly recently, it changed when one of the boys got a restraining order against her dad.

[itsgettingweird]

@Bluntness100

Well of course it’s physically tough and mentally demanding. It doesn’t change the fact that being able to do that does not indicate she is able to make other larger decisions in her life.

Genuine question.

If she has this dementia and cannot make discussions for herself to keep herself safe how sure can we be she is actually competent enough to fully consent to training schedules for shows, how many shows, what she wears etc?

She works a very difficult job in a tough industry. The side effect of this is a public persona.

If she cannot be trusted with the money she makes from this is she really competent enough to make the decision to earn the money, how and to consent to the public SM presence it brings?

[PicsInRed]

Her grandmother was mentally unwell and committed suicide in an extremely upsetting manner, leaving 4 children - including Britney's father.

I would suppose he sees history repeating itself.

[HJ372]

I'll be honest the pictures on her Insta look like she just doesn't fake it out with filters! She looks like a normal person would in a normal photo. She's not a mess. She's just not filtered and edited within an inch of her life!

[Mydarlingsleepthief]

It’s more the videos of her answering questions, where she’s rocking and speaking rapidly and looking dead eyed

[Bluntness100]

If she has this dementia and cannot make discussions for herself to keep herself safe how sure can we be she is actually competent enough to fully consent to training schedules for shows, how many shows, what she wears etc?

We can’t. Nor should we be able to. She is not public property. Those around her are the ones enabled to make that decision, in light of the full facts. And that includes, doctors, lawyers, courts, and her family.

“We” have fuck all to do with it.