Ban adverts for SUVs?

[Ifailed]

see www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53607147.
Personally I think it would be pointless, as I suspect people have already made up their mind that they want an over-sized car and and the lack of adverts will not change their minds.

Well you quite frankly haven't a clue what you're talking about. The vast majority of brand new 'SUVs' are far more fuel efficient than the mast majority of cars that are 10+ years old. The 2.2l diesel SUV that I now own is far more fuel efficient than my first car, a 1.4 petrol Peugeot 206. You're quite literally being totally ignorant.

I would imagine very few people "need" the actual car they have. Most of the extras are nice to have. Most average cars would easily reach 120mph +, no one needs to go that fast, most have inbuilt satnav, it's not essential, heck it's not even crucial to have a radio but most cars have them!! ....but we dont all drive a reliant robin!(or whatever he current equivalent is?) I drive a fairly small hatchback and have had 2 children, plus shopping plus a phil and Ted's pushchair in it (I'm not 6ft though) I don't want a medal but its not 100% true that you need an SUV. We used to have a land rover freelander for no other reason than my husband wanted it. We got rid of it 10 year ago and not planning to get another SUV.
One of my tallest friends is 6ft 9 and I've seen him driving a smart car - admittedly you wouldnt have got a lot else in it!

Silly idea. Many SUVs are electric and not substantially heavier than a normal car or substantially more thirsty.

Small sports cars are more likely to be big emitters.

Size doesn't always matter!

I love a Mumsnet thread where we are all told the answer is simple. Go electric. They are so expensive. Eye wateringly in many cases. It will be years before I could think about spending that much on a car. I also don't go in for PCP, I'd get shafted by the mileage charge.

Have you thought of taking in ironing for extra cash to save up for one?? 😂😂😂

Live in the country - remote.
If didn't have a 4x4 SUV (actually 2!) we wouldn't get out to the day jobs saving lives.
So needed bought and paid for with hard earned cash.
Safe practical and actually much greener than my old car.

@Mothermorph

I love a Mumsnet thread where we are all told the answer is simple. Go electric. They are so expensive. Eye wateringly in many cases. It will be years before I could think about spending that much on a car. I also don't go in for PCP, I'd get shafted by the mileage charge.

Have you thought of taking in ironing for extra cash to save up for one?? 😂😂😂

Bravo, bravo 👏🏼 👏🏼😂😂

I drive a van.

I'm not even going to pretend I "need" one because I don't, although it does come in handy for throwing the dog and all the camping gear in the back or my bike and kit when I'm doing triathlons.

I bought it because I like it and I wanted it.

I do my bit for the environment in many many other ways so I don't and won't feel guilty about driving a large vehicle.

and I wasn't in any way shape or form influenced by tv adverts 🤷🏻‍♀️

But that’s still a better situation than the recyclability of used fossil fuels

See, I’m not so sure about that. I do think that air pollution (not carbon emissions so much) is a big problem in urban areas but that’s better solved without resorting to electric cars!

If some of the issues with batteries are not thought of ahead of time, the cure will be worse than the disease imo.

I certainly don’t want to see third-world garbage pits filled up with unrecyclable lithium batteries because ‘we had to do something!!!’

Used solar panels are going to be bad enough ....

*Ugh, you’re one of those.

Never mind. Science is hard*

One of those?

Yeh, whatever, I guess. Suspect it takes one to know one...🤦‍♂️

Evidently, science is hard for you. Squeezing that tree clearly has worn down your capability for not being able to discern the wood from the trees 😂

...As you were!

@JoJoSM2

It sounds ridiculous. Larger cars are very expensive so people only buy them if they need them. And it does take a large SUV to fit in 2 toddlers in their seats, a buggy and a weekly shop. Hardly excessive...

What bollocks is this!? What kind of life do you lead? Jesus.

I have a bog standard 4 door.
The kids are in their car seats and the shopping goes on the passenger seat and in the footwells, plus some in the boot.

Silly idea. Many SUVs are electric and not substantially heavier than a normal car or substantially more thirsty.

really? I'll leave you to define 'many', and also how a car with a larger mass is lighter than a 'normal car' and how such mass can be moved with a lesser energy input.

@Ifailed

Silly idea. Many SUVs are electric and not substantially heavier than a normal car or substantially more thirsty.

really? I'll leave you to define 'many', and also how a car with a larger mass is lighter than a 'normal car' and how such mass can be moved with a lesser energy input.

I get a new car every 3 years, the same make and model. Every 3 years the carbon emissions reduce substantially, for what is esentially the same car.

For just about any new SUV I could show you a common young-ish hatchback car with higher emissions, in fact some people driving a 5 y.o hatchback could reduce their emissions by buying a new SUV.

I don’t get it?
I drive a plug in hybrid SUV. It’s great. It’s 4wd, a lond high enough up. We are semi rural.
I have a large dog & 2 kids in big car seats and that’s before we add anything in.
To holiday anywhere requires a roof box as it is!
I don’t see all the issues
If you can walk do
If you drive keep foot light
If you can car share great
If you can hybrid even better
But let’s not demonise everything...

I hate SUVs but I am not sure banning adverts for them would make fewer people buy them. They're a status symbol - until that changes people will have to have them.

I don't think banning ads for junk food will make kids eat more fruit and veg, either. Banning ads doesn't really help. I don't know if it made a difference to smoking, I suspect the inside smoking ban made the biggest difference.

I get a new car every 3 years, the same make and model. Every 3 years the carbon emissions reduce substantially, for what is esentially the same car.
Same car, substantially lower emissions - VW perhaps?

You know the more cars get smart features like distance control and speed control and so on, the less congestion we will see on the roads?

We have just got an SUV but not for the status - we couldn't give a shit about status! It's big and roomy which is what we explicitly went for. It parks itself, so no worries there. We looked at estate cars as well for the space but this was the one we happened to get a deal we could afford on. I don't have a preference on height, although have noticed that it's at exactly the right height now for getting wriggly toddler into spinning car seat, whereas the old one was a bit low down and you had to stoop and try not to whack their head on the roof.

We tend to use our car to travel rather than flying, as we live in mainland Europe, whereas if we had a smaller car, although we could and did drive long distances in it (we used to have a Suzuki Swift) we would have been more likely to fly for comfort and being able to take more luggage. So if you're talking carbon emissions - yes the car probably did cause more emissions being made, but for our family personally it has probably cut ours over time.

As soon as we mentioned family/child seats the salesperson started steering us towards SUVs. Of course it could be that they just wanted to make the sale and are pushing SUVs, but it does seem like it's been designed more to appeal to families than for proper off-roading, it's not even really 4wd.

@Ifailed

I get a new car every 3 years, the same make and model. Every 3 years the carbon emissions reduce substantially, for what is esentially the same car. Same car, substantially lower emissions - VW perhaps?

Haha I wish

I get a new car every 3 years, the same make and model. Every 3 years the carbon emissions reduce substantially, for what is esentially the same car.

And every three years a sh!t ton of emissions are created manufacturing that new car. Change your car every six years and that would be halved.

@PhoneLock

I get a new car every 3 years, the same make and model. Every 3 years the carbon emissions reduce substantially, for what is esentially the same car.

And every three years a sh!t ton of emissions are created manufacturing that new car. Change your car every six years and that would be halved.

Eh? I don't scrap the old one, someone else buys it. There are a certain number of cars needed for the population and they start new and filter through. Making fewer new cars would just increase the number of old polluting cars on the road.

Is a shit-tonne an engineering term?

Making fewer new cars would just increase the number of old polluting cars on the road.*

The average life cycle of a car is 13 years. Including manufacture, a petrol car will generate about 24 tons of CO2 in its lifetime. 23% of that during manufacture. Over three years: 9.8 tons total. Over six years:14 tons CO2. The same car changed twice after three years: 19.6 tons CO2.

Yes, a newer car would produce less CO2 from its tailpipe, despite that, given the CO2 produced during manufacture, I suspect the overall carbon footprint of a car changed every three years is greater than one kept for six years. Happy to be proved wrong.

We need to be manufacturing fewer cars, not more.

References: www.lowcvp.org.uk/assets/workingdocuments/MC-P-11-15a%20Lifecycle%20emissions%20report.pdf

The average life cycle of a car is 13 years

Is that in the U.K.? Seems too fast, more like old cars get shipped to Africa and other destinations after this point and likely repaired until junked (used to be China but they prefer newer cars now)

The "New Puritans" The old politics of ENVY
Now they want to ban things that are not necessary, according to their 'standards'.

Do you want us to feel guilty for buying things to make us more comfortable?
If you want to ban things that are not vital. then get rid of pets. They consume huge amounts of food resources that could be used for people.