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Anti Ds We might be locked out of last thread,..but we will never be totally locked dow 👍

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Dowser · 01/08/2020 13:56

How did that happen?
Taking one for the team 👍

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FeelsLikeGroundhogDay · 04/08/2020 16:40

I too am thinking schools won't be going back. I don't know which one of my kids I feel more sorry for, the one due to start reception ( who missed the last three months of nursery ) the autistic 9 yr old who was finally deemed " vulnerable " enough to attend school ( one day a week) at the beginning of July meaning she had 3 opportunities to go back before it shut or my increasingly sullen depressed teenager who was in the top sets but now has no motivation for anything. I'm so angry at how let down they've been! I cannot homeschool them, I missed the last three years of secondary due to mental health issues, the effect on their future keeps me awake at night.

Allflightscancelled · 04/08/2020 16:45

my increasingly sullen depressed teenager who was in the top sets but now has no motivation for anything

Snap, GroundhogDay. My DD got 5 grade 9s and 4 grade 8s at GCSE. She'd made a great start to her A-levels as well. Now she can't be bothered to pick up a book or a pen. Last time I tried to encourage her she ended up in tears.

It's a tragedy for all these kids.

LadyOfTheImprovisedBath · 04/08/2020 16:51

We had tears and DD1 storming out the house - very out of character- though that was partly the school setting test on stuff they hadn't taught yet.

We've gone softly since - getting a bit done and often needing me beside her.

Scottish school apparently start back after 11 August - so I think everyone will be watching Scotland and assesing how they do but I'd be surpised if all english or welsh schools were delayed going back - as the knock on affects would be huge.

FeelsLikeGroundhogDay · 04/08/2020 17:00

I completely gave up on any sit down structured learning with my 9 yr old in the end, it wasnt worth the upset. I then tried the " fun " learning but even that were thin after 12 weeks. It's just mad that they've done this, written off all these kids! Yes I too will be watching Scotland to see what happens with schooling there, but as actual facts and evidence don't seem to matter to the government I won't hold my breath!

BakewellTarts · 04/08/2020 17:13

@Pleasedontdothat

We’ve just had our ‘return to the office guidance’ ...

It’s opening in early September but no one will be forced to go in if they don’t want to. It’s going to be operating at a third of its normal capacity and will be closed on Fridays for a deep clean. There’s a one way system, no mug or cutlery provided, no hot desking- if you want to commit to two days a week you will be allocated a desk which no one else will be allowed to —lick— touch but you won’t be able to leave anything on it when you go home - if you just want to come in every now and then you have to pre-book a desk otherwise your security pass won’t be activated. All collaboration and break out spaces are closed, the 4 person meeting rooms are now just for 1 person Hmm, only one person allowed in the lift at a time, one of the staircases will be ‘up’ and the other ‘down’, we’re allowed on the roof terrace but all the furniture has been removed etc etc etc

As HR are still recommending that all meetings are done via Teams there really is no point in going back in .. I wonder if they’ll keep all this in place for the usual winter viruses for years to come .. cos you can’t be too careful can you Hmm

Other than the fact my office opened on 27/7 this sounds remarkably similar to how my co are dealing with return to ofice life. No thanks. All downside with no benefit. I do realise that some younger colleagues in houseshares in London might find this an improvement. I'll leave them to it.
BakewellTarts · 04/08/2020 17:15

On schools anyone affected by this:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53636296

Poor kids. Can't believe some were downgraded to results under their mocks. That seems really unfair. English results next week and the week after.

BakewellTarts · 04/08/2020 17:16

@LadyOfTheImprovisedBath

They can't do a u-turn on schools - the pupils going into Y13 and Y11 - like DD1 would be completely fucked and they'd have to think about re-sitting entire years.

It like poster going on chirtmas will be 8 weeks on that school thread - there are GCSE exams in January - at least in wales - you can't just shurg and not deal with those.

Scotland schools go back soon - next week I think I suspect it just that setting dementors off.

Stopping and starting schools in certain areas if they hit high levels at certian times - that I could see happening but I'd hope the schools would be planning for that possiblity and that it will be rare.

I've bought uniform a while ago - still have shoes and possibly shirts to go - ideally I'd get a bit more but can always do that bit later.

I think the govt is committed to getting schools back. Combined with likely upset over results I can't see them backtracking.
Dowser · 04/08/2020 17:18

@DrearyWallAntler
Thank you
( gosh you learn so much here)
Yet not long ago, we were screamed out for not using eco friendly products, yet , I think you are saying that, the ones we do use aren’t that detrimental

Is that true?

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Supermarketworker06 · 04/08/2020 17:19

@Polkadotties

I don’t understand how some people cannot understand that the more people you test the more positives there will be. Found this on Twitter it shows the percentage of positives out of all the tests, look at that bloody line! It’s basically flat!
Yes this! I was trying to explain this today, giving this example. " if you have 100 people and 2 of them are left handed, does that mean 2% of the population are left handed?" However, if you have a bigger group of say, 5000 and 500 are left handed, that means 10% are left handed. It all depends on the size of the sample you're using.. more people, more chance of finding left handed people!"
Dowser · 04/08/2020 17:20

@Allflightscancelled
My grandson must be in the same year as your daughter ( aged 17)
To be fair, he’s well motivated but it’s hard to keep going with little or no stimulation

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DominaShantotto · 04/08/2020 17:22

I'm currently trying to plan how I can revamp my conservatory workspace on a non existent budget so it can serve for home school work for 2 kids if required. Conservatory isn't even an ideal workspace for me since it currently has the £3 Ikea blinds stuck onto the windows to get the light to a manageable level - let alone me, stroppy DD1 and dyspraxic as fuck DD2 (and the dog will insist on joining in too)

AgentCooper · 04/08/2020 17:24

My DSis is a teacher (we’re in Scotland) so due back next week. So far no u-turns but she’s not holding her breath, considering the last one was the day before the summer hols when they had all rearranged their classrooms.

I am losing the plot with all this. I feel like I’ve missed some huge news story. Why are all the dementors acting like it’s March again?

The uni where I work took a survey of student opinions and it was overwhelmingly in favour of as much face to face teaching as possible, so all Timetabling was done with this in mind, using 1m distancing. But the Scottish govt aren’t budging on 2m so it all has to be redone and there are going to be a lot of very pissed off students.

MxEWeatherwax · 04/08/2020 17:24

On local radio today there was a father talking about the death of his twenty something daughter. Who died because her cancer came back and Dr’s told her to get a Covid test. It was so sad to listen too. I listened with a lump in my throat as is very local to me. But she didn’t die of Covid sarcasm.

DominaShantotto · 04/08/2020 17:32

@AgentCooper

My DSis is a teacher (we’re in Scotland) so due back next week. So far no u-turns but she’s not holding her breath, considering the last one was the day before the summer hols when they had all rearranged their classrooms.

I am losing the plot with all this. I feel like I’ve missed some huge news story. Why are all the dementors acting like it’s March again?

The uni where I work took a survey of student opinions and it was overwhelmingly in favour of as much face to face teaching as possible, so all Timetabling was done with this in mind, using 1m distancing. But the Scottish govt aren’t budging on 2m so it all has to be redone and there are going to be a lot of very pissed off students.

We are getting 4 hours face-to-face a fortnight. Masks compulsory (for phonetics that's going to be amusing) throughout.

I'll be a steamed glasses panic attack wreck and not able to go in! I'm still 50/50 of taking a year out of the course.

Allflightscancelled · 04/08/2020 17:33

Yes I'm doing some work on colleges and universities and as far as I can see students want as much face to face a s possible, teachers (at least, a vocal cohort) want as little as possible, and the managers are tearing their hair out trying to accommodate everyone's wants and to manage with all the roolz, which means:

  1. they need more rooms even though many may be out of bounds because they're on high floors that people can't get to if it's one person only in a lift
  2. to prioritise face to face teaching for practical subjects that need specialist kit
  3. what happens if people live off campus and can't get public transport in
  4. how they work out who can come in the socially distanced lecture rooms and what to do with the people who have to be turned away

5 +++++++

ie it's a nightmare

WouldBeGood · 04/08/2020 17:35

I too am worrying about a u turn on schools here in Scotland,. Teachers on Scotsnet are very much against the current plans and I see the EIS has been writing with concerns again.

justasking111 · 04/08/2020 17:52

Well if schools back track it will damage the economy further cannot see that happening, unless unions have their way. They have been itching for something amazing since red robbo left.

Dementor OH said at lunch time, wanna go out. Blooming heck, was up and out before he changed his mind, had a gorgeous lunch in an out of the way pub not frequented by grockles. Too much food and wine, no discount they are not doing it, the paperwork is horrendous they said and lasts a year when they will have to give final figures.

Ibake · 04/08/2020 18:02

@DominaShantotto Facebook marketplace has so much free stuff! I furnished an entire house for my son earlier this year and spend the grand total of £90. People give so much stuff away, keep an eye out for things like desks. You can put an alert on your phone. Turning the conservatory into a more usable space will feel so much better for all of you.

TheOrchidKiller · 04/08/2020 18:10

Today has been crazy at work. There was a full moon last night though.

Just saw dingit's pretend "Breaking news" thing & thought, "Oh what now?!" Grin

BakewellTarts
Pleasedontdothat
"We’ve just had our ‘return to the office guidance’ ..."

Today someone replaced all the laminated "SOCIAL DISTANCING! ONLY 4 PEOPLE ALLOWED IN THIS ROOM!" posters at work with brand new laminated "SOCIAL DISTANCING! ONLY 4 PEOPLE ALLOWED IN THIS ROOM!" posters.

Someone has too much time on their hands. It isn't me. Social distancing is so effective that there is often only ONE person in at a time, hence getting lumbered with extra work.

For any organisations getting squeamish about shared cutlery, we have a communal biscuit tin, & we're not dead yet.

I think some of the people calling for tougher measures do go out to work. I think some of them love the drama, & they love being martyrs. There is a serious dementor in our building who swore blind at the start of lockdown she had seen wards full of covid patients with her own eyes, but it wasn't true. She had been getting up at 4.30am to do all the extra covid work which her team do for her, & she objected to people going out for exercise because she had to work! I get very, very busy when I hear her coming now, so that I don't have to engage.

Main headline on BBC 6 o'clock news is NOT covid- it's the explosion in Beirut so still awful. In fact, it sounds horrific.

Dowser · 04/08/2020 18:29

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Slight change of topic
My grandson had the therapy work on his TMJ today
His legs were out of sync, one longer than the other, a small scoliosis In his back and then he had lots of cranial work
The therapist explains everything he’s doing
When he’d finished there was just 1/2 tooth overlapping which is quite minor to how he started

It takes a little while to settle , so will see how we get on

It may need a bit more work later on but we haven’t made a follow up appointment yet
One thing the therapist did mention was not to have an operation
It’s like locking the Stable door when the horse is bolted.

My oesaphagal Sphincter ( the valve into the stomach was a bit out) and he worked on my digestive system again and my joints
So am a bit tired and achey right now

Hope you can find someone similar or you can trek up here if you feel so inclimed

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AgentCooper · 04/08/2020 18:40

@Allflightscancelled

Yes I'm doing some work on colleges and universities and as far as I can see students want as much face to face a s possible, teachers (at least, a vocal cohort) want as little as possible, and the managers are tearing their hair out trying to accommodate everyone's wants and to manage with all the roolz, which means:
  1. they need more rooms even though many may be out of bounds because they're on high floors that people can't get to if it's one person only in a lift
  2. to prioritise face to face teaching for practical subjects that need specialist kit
  3. what happens if people live off campus and can't get public transport in
  4. how they work out who can come in the socially distanced lecture rooms and what to do with the people who have to be turned away

5 +++++++

ie it's a nightmare

We are so pushed for rooms in my university at the best of times, God knows how it’s going to work. An email has come out saying that they want to figure out alternative ways of students getting time on campus if they don’t get any face to face teaching, but how do they plan on doing that? Where are they going to hold these brand new events?

Honestly, fuck this all to high heaven.

HeIenaDove · 04/08/2020 18:45

In happier news my hair isnt exactly grey

Whats come through is more of a black and silver ombre Smile

Allflightscancelled · 04/08/2020 18:49

No face to face teaching at all? Fucking hell. Why would anyone want to pay all those fees for that? Dd would normally be choosing her uni soon but I'm doing all I can to get her to defer. Bad news for the unis, I know ☹️

Allflightscancelled · 04/08/2020 18:51

Obvs I mean if lots of kids defer. It's not bad news if just my dd defers, she's not that special Grin

HeIenaDove · 04/08/2020 18:53

"I don't think people are protesting because they're just broken basically - they've had the hope of it improving pulled away from them and they're all now so terrified schools won't open they're just surviving... and don't have the energy to fight it anymore.

I know I'm there"

I feel totally dehumanized. Cant get a facial wax yet men can get their nose hairs plucked. Hair colour grown out but i dont think end product will look too bad.

World gets smaller and smaller so people end up treating themselves to food and wine etc

Feeling dehumanized and pissed off is not the right mindset for losing weight which is what Shit for Brains wants us to do.