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ADs seek spontaneous cake in 1984

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Mascotte · 17/07/2020 09:05

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LivinLaVidaLoki · 23/07/2020 06:22

Just want to point out that's not my stance on school.

wanderings · 23/07/2020 07:02

Morning all. Keeping fingers crossed for some unintended consequences of muzzles, so that Boris has to u-turn on them, such as a weekend of the shops being deserted. There are other things which could aid the cause, but I wouldn’t wish them on shop staff. I might start taking a photo of every discarded mask on the ground, to emphasise the environmental damage, which was the dementory thing before Covid was fashionable.

ButterMeCrumpets · 23/07/2020 07:06

They reported that the 'guidance' on masks still hasn't been released on the news earlier. Hmmmm

LittleSwede · 23/07/2020 07:12

Greetings fellow ADs from Sweden!

Pickachew, I just asked my mum about extras for key workers here. She said they get free lunches and dinners delivered to the hospitals. Some hospital trusts are offering nurses 20000 Swedish krona, roughly 1800 pounds if they postpone their summer holidays to September.

Infection levels currently very low but are expected to rise in clusters in autumn. Stockholm almost at herd immunity level.

Things just feel do much more relaxed over here, play parks without lenghtly lists of rules, a few polite notices to remind people of social distancing in shops etc. No yellow and black tape to be seen. Yes, people are definitely aware there us a pandemic going on but seem more measured in their response.

LittleSwede · 23/07/2020 07:26

Should probably add that we just flew in Sunday after deciding it was worth the measured risk etc. Haven't seen my mum for 11 months and she's had a couple of stints in hospital this spring when I thought I'd never see her again.

BamboozledandBefuddled · 23/07/2020 07:34

@ButterMeCrumpets

They reported that the 'guidance' on masks still hasn't been released on the news earlier. Hmmmm
And no legislation has been passed regarding wearing masks in shops and it doesn't appear to be scheduled for Parliamentary business today.

I suppose we do still need Acts of Parliament to create laws or is it enough now for Johnson to say 'This is law from the 24th because I said so'? Be interesting to see how this plays out.

ButterMeCrumpets · 23/07/2020 07:53

I am putting bets on no legislation but 'guidance' which everyone will take as 'law' and bully people over it.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 23/07/2020 07:57

@ButterMeCrumpets

I am putting bets on no legislation but 'guidance' which everyone will take as 'law' and bully people over it.
I'll take that bet.
NannyPhlegm · 23/07/2020 08:03

@ButterMeCrumpets

I am putting bets on no legislation but 'guidance' which everyone will take as 'law' and bully people over it.
Sadly, this is what they're most likely aiming for, the gutless amoebas
Orangeblossom78 · 23/07/2020 08:04

I'm glad to hear that about Sweden. It makes me think of how things could possibly be for the future here- without all the rules but some basic respect.

I have gone from fed up to feisty today and going to go swimming after all, it seems the sports centre might have made a mistake with their extra charges anyway, when they reinstated the membership. If it is as normal I will try and go as the health benefits (both physical and mental) will outweigh the risk.

I have noticed that my yoga teacher is back, an older lady who seems very calm. I miss her class, and know that if more go she will be able to keep it up, as well. I'm a little surprised they seem to have 40 spaces for Zumba, as previous, would have thought they might have reduced the class sizes a little, but there we go. I don't have the energy for that right now anyway!

No aqua aerobics yet on the timetable, but there are other classes like pilates and core workouts etc. Kind of limited in time until the boys go back to school as well.

Trying to ignore dementory friends who never say anything encouraging about getting back out there (despite them knowing how it helps MH etc) and even saying things like Scotland is not opening gyms so the schools can go back Hmm

Even though I know they randomly started saying people could fly to Spain with no quarantine recently, so seems a bit of a mixture in their approach at times. I have also ordered a kind of self care thing online with some nice stuff in that too. To get through rest of 'holidays'

DH very stressy today, all along he does not discuss any of this and changes the subject if it is mentioned. He's stressing about his work etc. It should be OK I hope, but self employment can be stressful can't it.

Another sunny day here, last one before masks, might take the boys into town for a bit although the youngest is already saying but what if they tell me off for not wearing one of those things...

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito · 23/07/2020 08:04

Hmm, interesting. So if it's not made law by parliament today, I could ignore it?

wish I had the guts, am a goody goody rule follower, damn it

Orangeblossom78 · 23/07/2020 08:06

Scandi countries don't seem to do mask wearing do they?

bakingcupcakes · 23/07/2020 08:13

Not posted for a while but I still lurk. We're going to do our top up milk/fruit shop today instead of tomorrow so I can delay mask wearing until monday when I have to do the actual shop.

We've eaten out and been to the shops a lot this week. Definitely increased mask wearing going on. DS asked why we weren't doing it. Over my dead body will he be having one. The fiddling when he wore one to the hospital was unreal. I was watching a child slightly younger than DS, probably about 4, in wetherspoons the other day. He had a mask which he touched repeatedly, then took off and wiped over the table, then his mum took it off him and stuffed it in her pocket. Rather bizarrely she wasn't wearing a mask herself.

SockYarn · 23/07/2020 08:32

Piss poor reporting from the BBC this morning about how there's a huge rate of compliance to wearing a mask every time you leave the house in Singapore and only 36% of people in the UK wear masks "in public".

Irrespective of the fact that wearing masks outside isn't law and has never been law, or even recommended.

Orangeblossom78 · 23/07/2020 08:32

They have to wear them from the age of 5 in Scotland I think but in England it is 11. But in Scotland they have told them under 12a can meet up etc - wonder if the mask wearing is meant to make up for that Confused

Who knows. It is all a bit boggling. I'm not making my 11 year old wear one. The 15 year old is oddly, quite keen to. Maybe feels it is a cool teen look Hmm (he has not tried one yet though)

Orangeblossom78 · 23/07/2020 08:36

www.euronews.com/2020/07/14/coronavirus-how-the-wearing-of-face-masks-has-exposed-a-divided-europe

BBC always tends to compare us to Asian countries (which are higher risk for COVID as well) if you read this there is much more of a range to attitudes, within Europe.

MaudesMum · 23/07/2020 08:46

No. 10 is about to clarify things about masks needing to be worn inside takeaways/sandwich shops etc, according to the Telegraph/Metro. So, that'll be more takeaways from places that have direct access to the street for me.

The problem with challenging the legality or otherwise of masks is that the people you'd end up talking to about it are the poor bloody shop staff, rather than the "gutless amoebas" in government. Great phrase @NannyPhlegm - I may well be using it today!!

KaronAVyrus · 23/07/2020 08:47

Is anyone else just now finding it difficult to keep on top of the rules. There are so many now. I think part of the problem, for me, is that they are just not logical

BogRollBOGOF · 23/07/2020 08:50

@Orangeblossom78

www.euronews.com/2020/07/14/coronavirus-how-the-wearing-of-face-masks-has-exposed-a-divided-europe

BBC always tends to compare us to Asian countries (which are higher risk for COVID as well) if you read this there is much more of a range to attitudes, within Europe.

The "everyone else is doing it, why are we the only ones to grumble about it" rhetoric is so unimaginative, dull and untrue.

Why is there such a strong urge to run this country down and deify everyone else.

That's partly why I cried re-watching the Olympic Opening Ceremony last weekend. Because we can be great (or at least no crappier than anyone else) and it was a wonderful feeling of optomism and unity which are far too absent at the moment.

Pleasedontdothat · 23/07/2020 08:50

@SockYarn

Piss poor reporting from the BBC this morning about how there's a huge rate of compliance to wearing a mask every time you leave the house in Singapore and only 36% of people in the UK wear masks "in public".

Irrespective of the fact that wearing masks outside isn't law and has never been law, or even recommended.

That really gets on my nerves too ... what does ‘wearing masks in public’ even mean?? There’s no distinction between wearing one in certain, mandated situations when it’s not possible to keep your distance from other people and wandering along in the open air with a chin hammock Hmm

Plus every single article on masks is accompanied by photos of people wearing masks outside, often exercising - why?

And if I see one more feature on how to look good in a mask/hair and makeup tips for masks etc I will scream - stop normalising this shit!

NothingIsWrong · 23/07/2020 08:50

Morning morning, I've nearly done a whole week with my kids and husband away.

Let's put it this way, I'm missing the kids...

It's amazing how quickly I've reverted to student life on my own, complete with breakfast being rice pudding out of the tin with a spoon!

Work is hell. Just utter crazy hell, but I managed to use my position to do some good yesterday and got an email this morning from my manager saying that the recipient had emailed him to say how grateful she was, so that's good!

lifeafter50 · 23/07/2020 08:51

Like previous poster am shopping today instead of tomorrow to put off the evil moment as long as possible .
I am so angry about mask wearing and the superstition attached -like wearing a St Christopher to protect you from bandits. How medieval is this irrational belief.
I am a teacher and reading any edict that masks will me mandatory is schools as the unions are clamouring for. It's not because they are uncomfortable /haven't worn one yet / but the sheer pointlessness.

Drivingdownthe101 · 23/07/2020 08:51

@KaronAVyrus

Is anyone else just now finding it difficult to keep on top of the rules. There are so many now. I think part of the problem, for me, is that they are just not logical
I’ve got no idea anymore. And to be honest I can’t even bring myself to care. Just quietly going about my business!
countrygirl99 · 23/07/2020 09:17

Another sign that things are starting to return to normal - the regular vagrants are back sleeping in doorways at 2 of our branches. I haven't had a vagrancy report for months until this week.

Orangeblossom78 · 23/07/2020 09:17

Kind of sad, really.

"Chinese exporters report that orders for “adult” dolls have doubled this year as social-distancing rules during the pandemic have kept people apart and put a damper on intimate relationships.

A doll-maker in the southern city of Shenzhen told The Paper, a state-run news site, that it now exports about 6,000 a month, twice as many as in the past.

In Italy sales of sex dolls from Alibaba, the Chinese e-commerce giant, have risen fivefold since March when the pandemic started there.

Yan Sixue, a general manager of a trading company in the eastern city of Yiwu, said that demand had also been particularly robust in Spain and Germany. A factory that supplies Mr Yan’s company reported the strongest growth from Germany.

“The only [negative] effect of the pandemic is the rise in shipping costs,” Chen Qing, a factory official, said. “Many routes have been suspended and we are forced to do sea shipping”.

Mr Chen told The Paper that clients were buying dolls for companionship. China is the world’s largest maker of adult products, accounting for 70 per cent of the market."