Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested.

[ArriettyJones]

By the FBI.

Some good need for a change.

So she ‘Slithered away’ to a property in New Hampshire apparently... lovely expression from a law enforcement officer!

So the people who helped her out (properties, transport, whoever was doing her cooking and cleaning etc) - will they be charged too?

Somehow the truth has to get hushed up. She can't be another one to commit suicide (cameras coincidentally also broken), there must be a lot of very rich and influential people who desperately want rid of her right now. I don't know what to expect - will she die in a prison break gone wrong?!

I think she'll be busy making a deal with LE, I think some things will be revealed and other things will be kept quiet, it's going to be interesting👀
Some people are going to have a very uncomfortable summer😶

Slithered away!
she is about as low as a snake's belly isn't she🐍

So the people who helped her out (properties, transport, whoever was doing her cooking and cleaning etc) - will they be charged too?

Why should her recent domestic staff be charged with anything? It’s not even as though they are likely to have worked for Epstein is it?

@LadyEloise

managedmis Didn't Andrew say he didn't sweat.

Only for a very brief period of time which neatly coincided with someone saying they remembered him somewhere and he was sweating. A period of time that excluded all the times photographs were taken of him in clubs looking pretty sweaty.

I'm glad she;s been arrested and charged. I hope she sings like my favourite songbird, the European Blackbird.

Bill Clinton and many others likely to be worried.

@Allflightscancelled

*I wonder if Airmiles Andy is sweating now I doubt it*

He'll try and take his mind off it with a visit to Woking

I feel like she's already done some sort of deal with the prosecutors. Otherwise I think there would have been video of her arrest.
They did say they'd been watching her for some time.

@WineAndHobnobs

I don't understand the allegations against Andrew. He met her in London and she was of age. What is he being accused of exactly? As she was there already, I guess he can't be accused of trafficking her.

Can anyone explain? Thanks.

She was trafficked for sex and under 18. It’s illegal to take someone abroad for the purposes of sexual exploitation and when under 18 it’s an additional crime.

She was a victim of sexual abuse and rape which doesn’t have an age limit last I checked.

@missyoumuch But Andrew didn't traffick her though, I thought? that was Epstein and Maxwell? And she was over 16 and in the UK that's not a crime. Sorry, not defending him, just trying to understand the charges.

Andrew hasn’t been charged. But a good investigator should question whether he had any idea she’d been trafficked. Why would a teenage girl travel abroad with adults who are not her relatives and taking her into nightclubs?

He doesn’t want to talk to authorities because there’s probably more to the story that would reveal he knew Virginia and other girls were trafficked and underage. He may have been with more than one girl we don’t know about yet.

I fucking hate Boris Johnson but I think if he was a close friend of hers there would be more tying them together. Going to the same Oxford college four years apart is hardly evidence. It is very very likely they knew each other, I give you that, from the old boys clubs that operate in London after Oxford is over, but I think it rather unfair to tar everyone with the same brush. I'd be mortified if one of the people in my social circle committed a crime and I was thereby implicated. He is amoral, as is she, but they didn't have the same scope in their amorality! I'm sure Boris has done a plethora of rupugnant things, but this one seems a little out of character.

I've been following this too and watched the documentary a couple of weeks ago. What an awful woman, I'm really glad she's been arrested but I fear she will get a plea bargain so they can catch the "bigger players"

With regards to the royals I agree with others in that the queen won't allow anything to happen to Andrew while she is alive. But this is going to anger people (me for one!) and I don't think that will just disappear, when Charles becomes king it may well be he's willing to sacrifice his brother to get the people on side and make a big gesture to signal
A new era.

I think the issue with Andrew is not that he has necessarily committed a crime per se, but that he has a duty to help the prosecutors by answering their questions about what he observed and experienced when he was staying in Epstein's residences.

And he has not done that, because it would probably involve admitting to some morally repugnant behaviour, even if not strictly illegal.

But a good investigator should question whether he had any idea she’d been trafficked.

If he did know, is that a crime? If so, what is the crime? Just curious.

Pluckedpencil I don't think they were 4 years apart at Oxford. My friend was there at the same time as both of them, on a 3-year course.

Agree it doesn't mean BJ has done anything morally wrong, it's just an interesting adjunct to the narrative. I think GM was possibly also in the same set at Oxford as Olivia Channon.

@WineAndHobnobs

But a good investigator should question whether he had any idea she’d been trafficked.

If he did know, is that a crime? If so, what is the crime? Just curious.

If he requested or arranged for teenagers to be flown overseas to meet him for sex, that is a crime.

By that reckoning, you could tie me to bloody Katie Hopkins. Same subject, same university, 2 years apart.

Didn't know her, though (thankfully).

Yes, it doesn’t matter that she was ‘of age’ in the country she was in. It is an offence for an adult to have sex with a US citizen under the age of 18 whether on US soil or abroad. This is to legislate against scumbags trafficking American children and young people out of the US for the purposes of abusing them.

@WineAndHobnobs conspiracy to traffic is an offence in England and Wales and includes acts or events which take place outside the jurisdiction. I don’t know the equivalent statutory provisions in the US or the BVI, but no doubt any witnesses giving statements about what they knew of the Epstein/Maxwell activities, and when, will be advised of the risk of self-incrimination.

But maudspellbody I guess what I'm getting it as how the very extremely privileged are all interlinked. BJ & GM weren't just at Oxford, they were in the same college. She went to school at Marlborough, he went to Eton. They all hang out together. I am not implying that they were even friends but I'd imagine they may have chatted at a drinks party or two, it is likely they knew each other as they were both quite notorious figures at Uni.

Thanks for the explanations on the legal aspects of this. It makes sense now.

@UntamedWisteria

But maudspellbody I guess what I'm getting it as how the very extremely privileged are all interlinked. BJ & GM weren't just at Oxford, they were in the same college. She went to school at Marlborough, he went to Eton. They all hang out together. I am not implying that they were even friends but I'd imagine they may have chatted at a drinks party or two, it is likely they knew each other as they were both quite notorious figures at Uni.

I dont think it’s fair your pulling BJ in to this. If he was connected in any way it would have been reported. I’m not a lover of BJ but I wouldn’t start assuming and trying to join dots up that are not there.