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We got a bit cut off there didn't we? Thread 15 now.

I'm still baffled at why people are insistent there will be an even harsher lockdown. Do they want to get welded into their houses or something because they are certainly acting like it.

I think some people actually do, yes 🤦🏻‍♀️😳

@mightbealittlebitmad

I'm still baffled at why people are insistent there will be an even harsher lockdown. Do they want to get welded into their houses or something because they are certainly acting like it.

Some people won't be satisfied until their front doors are bricked up and they spend all their days with a bag over their heads, squatting in the corner of the living room in the stress position. I bet they fantasise about being held in a hostage situation in the Middle East.

Takeaway pints can only really work in a small community. Most large towns and cities up here have a ban on public drinking (not that it makes Durham City centre any less lairy on a Saturday afternoon)

We do have a local micropub doing takeaway, but that was the bulk of its business all along as most of its beers and ciders are bottled.

There’s a really horrid thread at the minute about a woman who is having an operation. People are telling her she could kill hundreds by taking her dog for a walk rather than entirely self isolating for 2 weeks before 🤔.

Our local pub is doing takeaway pints. The main issue is people coming from towns, drinking their pint and then pissing in people’s gardens

@justasking111 @AnxiousElephant77On the subject of dangerous parties, someone once broke their ankle doing wild dancing at our Christmas party, where I used to work. And the staff rounders match resulted in a broken collarbone.

I think they have more sedate, sedentary staff socials now. Possibly all in separate rooms even before all this happened

@mightbealittlebitmad

I'm still baffled at why people are insistent there will be an even harsher lockdown. Do they want to get welded into their houses or something because they are certainly acting like it.

They don't want to have wasted all their worrying.

They would rather 'all (sadly) die' and be able to mumble 'I told you so' than admit they were wrong and that all their worrying and dementoring was a total waste of time.

I'm only referring to those at low risk who are loving telling others what to do rather than those that are genuinely worrying for themself.

@peaceanddove
Some people won't be satisfied until their front doors are bricked up and they spend all their days with a bag over their heads, squatting in the corner of the living room in the stress position. I bet they fantasise about being held in a hostage situation in the Middle East
That's given me the best laugh I've had for ages and I'm not even in the UK!!

Pickachew
The plan today was go to durham , have a little mooch and then a walk down the river and then over to Shincliffe for our indian Picnic.
Then the wind got up, the clouds came over..so we abandoned plan A And plan B was very mediocre
Have just eaten a nice pulled pork dinner.
I find Sunday’s hard.

@PickAChew

Takeaway pints can only really work in a small community. Most large towns and cities up here have a ban on public drinking (not that it makes Durham City centre any less lairy on a Saturday afternoon)

We do have a local micropub doing takeaway, but that was the bulk of its business all along as most of its beers and ciders are bottled.

I agree, I don’t think it would even work in my medium sized town. It works in this village because the pub is right on the green, there isn’t much else to the village and it doesn’t have either a big enough population or good enough transport links for what is effectively an outdoor pub to be a problem.

I've not even left the house, today, @Dowser. Dh has been working in the garden but I've been keeping an eye on the netweather radar. He managed to get all of his cut wood back under a tarp in time for it to pelt it down, bang on 3pm.

The air feels a lot fresher for it. Been changing beds and trying to clean bedrooms and getting far too hot and bothered.

@Teateaandmoretea

The thing about the R rate is that at low levels of infection it’s bollocks. So if one person infects 20 the R rate is 20. The important thing is to stop transmission from the 20.

Someone posted a link to an article about a week ago to this effect. I've been looking for it and can't find it. Does anyone remember it and have a link??

Drove up to see my parents this afternoon. Something that needs wine for recovery at the best of times. Tried to help them order a pond pump but it kept hanging at the card verification stage so gave up on that. Explained what DS2 will be doing in Finland to mum eleventy million times. Tried to explain to dad that zoom would be better for his balance clinic than a phone call to no avail as he couldn't get his head around video calls. Heard how there is no public transport at all in Cambridgeshire because of covid about 200 times. But on the plus side Aldi battenburg is lovely, must get some. Sadly only I like marzipan in our house so I will have to eat it all.

@Teateaandmoretea

I do find myself swinging from really positive to really worried. What's happening in the US & China is making me concerned.

China is an outbreak and we will have them. The important thing is to get it under control.

The US is more concerning but it is a completely different situation to the UK as we are a much smaller country with more central control, the issue in the US is lots of states. Plus the culture is even more freedom loving than the UK.

I get the impression that the southern / western US in particular has a few fair men people who take pride in eschewing even the most simple moderate precautionary behaviour because precautionary behaviour is for wimpy granola-eating liberals.

The dementors on FB today my local patch near Anglesey saying the police should guard the bridges and not let anyone in or out without good cause. The folk who arrived to their second homes three months ago should be chucked out. 75 tested positive so far, they are neither in hospital nor have died. OK well 25% are islanders so of course the unions insisted the Anglesey schools were closed until September, the rest are bussed in from England so will the english schools shut just in case? There is one person in ICU in the hospital they would attend should they become very ill.

Urgh. Just made the mistake of reading an article in the economist about how this is not Britain's finest hour. Which I agree with.
But it said that we started lockdown too late (lots of criticism of BJ which I couldn't agree more with) and now there is a long tail as we still have c1000 infections a day compared to a few hundred in the continent where they are having meals in restaurants and going to cafes as normal now. This has prolonged our lockdown and is frying our economy which should have been more resilient given our lesser reliance on hospitality and tourism (compared to say Spain) and now many of services jobs can be done from home.

I have not read the economist for 13 odd weeks, or any news really. Why the f&&k did I do it.

@Rubychard

I can't find the article but

If only one person has the disease but they are in close contact with a lot of people then they may pass it on to 3 others within that group

We then have an R of 3 even though only 4 people have the disease, which needs dealing with but in itself is not important

However, if 1000 people have the disease and they all spread it to 3 people - then we have a problem.

When R is low - an outbreak in one place can cause the whole area to have a R above one. The containment only needs to kick in where it happened, (Like around the meat factory in Germany) rather than the whole area or country.

This thread is my mental haven so I need to be talked down. For background I'm supposed to be shielding but have a 4yo and 2yo, and read the letter about staying 2m away from them and chucked it in the bin.
Policy is made by old white men who don't have a clue.

MagdaS
As a new mum with no babies in the family, I was really concerned about how well I could take care of my daughter

At a few weeks old I put her face dowN in the cot with a pillow over her head and watched her fight her way out..
She was superb.
I thought she’ll be fine. Stop panicking .
She didn’t even get a pillow till whatever age you can give them one.

They are stronger than they look.

I was telling my grandson a story the other day. My son was born with a cleft lip and palate and twisted feet and with his hands some of the fingers were tight into his palms.
I used to stretch them after every feed. Took two years to get them as near normal as possible.
Anyway when he was 9 months old, I used to give him my tablets with the child proof lids and ask him to open them for me as he was so much stronger than I in the finger department

As an aside, I got every finger straight but one little one. He said , just a few months ago ..what happened there mam . I said don’t you blame Me for that, you were two years old and so bloody minded, you wouldn’t let me continue with the stretches till we got it straight 😂

They were great kids, still are. I miss them around the house and they’ve been gone nearly 20 years.
Even the grandkids aren’t bothered about coming here very often. They have their own thing to do.
Sometimes me and dh are just rattling around the old place.
Maybe if I was still married to their dad, things might have been different I don’t know.
Anyway , he’s dead.

@RobinHobb I’m not 100% convinced that comparing the figures is that meaningful. I think some of the figures are a bit suss that the dementors are salivating over, but time will tell. We also have a higher population than most countries which no one ever seems to take into account.

Are we expecting to have quieter Christmas parties then? I fell in the coat rack at ours last year. Strong drink may have been taken.....

Disgusting robinhobb

Just what do they think we are?
Robots maybe?

@PickAChew I had a takeaway pint in the middle of Glasgow 2 days ago!

@Teateaandmoretea
Thank you
Yes that's a good point
The numbers from Spain especially are a bit suspect; and our population is larger. Anyway I'm trying not to get myself into a state about it. Little wobble today.
My DH is definitely leaning over towards the dementor side but thankfully recovering. At the beginning when he saw the shielding letter he went a little nuts and I then didn't leave the house for 12 weeks. It was a real joy I tell you - the hyperactive 2yo was REALLY enthused by that

@RobinHobb

Urgh. Just made the mistake of reading an article in the economist about how this is not Britain's finest hour. Which I agree with. But it said that we started lockdown too late (lots of criticism of BJ which I couldn't agree more with) and now there is a long tail as we still have c1000 infections a day compared to a few hundred in the continent where they are having meals in restaurants and going to cafes as normal now. This has prolonged our lockdown and is frying our economy which should have been more resilient given our lesser reliance on hospitality and tourism (compared to say Spain) and now many of services jobs can be done from home.

I have not read the economist for 13 odd weeks, or any news really. Why the f&&k did I do it.

We just need to use Trump logic. If we test less people then we will have a lower rate of infection.

I'm not saying we are covered in glory here - just that there is no point doing comparisons at this stage as no 2 countries are counting deaths or doing testing in exactly the same way.