Brother has been arrested....

[cantChooseYourRelatives]

I've NC for this but my brother has been arrested.

It's not entirely surprising as his life has spiralling for as long as I can remember. I went NC at the beginning of the year as I'd had enough.

Apparently the police turned up at his ex GF house - they have 2 kids together. And told her he'd been arrested and he was to not have any unsupervised contact with his kids.
They wouldn't say what he has done.

My brother is prone to lies and you never know the full story. Is there or will there be anyway of finding out what he has been arrested for?

Probably not unless he goes to court.
Since she's been told he cannot have any contact with their children, I would assume the arrest has something to do either with children, or is something that is a potential risk to the safety of children.

I’m not sure police ever ensure there is no unsupervised contact unless the offence is directly related to children...

As he's an adult, they aren't able to tell you what he's been arrested on suspicion of. Though if recommending he doesn't see kids, I would ask if possible to know when he's released so that she's aware he out and if he has bail conditions not to have contact with children.

That was my suspicion too.

They have confiscated his phone as well.

His kids where there when the police spoke to his Ex, they've put up with so much from him. He makes me so angry!!

Is he still in custody? Or has he been bailed? It should say in his bail conditions re- what the situation is about contact. You'll not be told any further information about him.
I'm a social worker and there have been occasions ove had to go out to families to say their family member cannot have any contact with a child but been unable to share any further information. The police can sometimes share something further depending who it affects.

I believe he is still in custody as this all happened last night.

Would a social worker automatically get involved?

It sounds to me like he has been downloading images of, well I don't need to spell it out.

It depends what the charge/s are. A police report can be generated and depending who is involved and what he's done, can be sent on to social work. Social work would assess the impact on the children and look at protective factors and a safety plan.

I’m not sure police ever ensure there is no unsupervised contact unless the offence is directly related to children...

They can’t enforce unless there’s a court order. But they can do a risk assessment and advise- that’s essentially what sarah’s law is.

Social services will be involved. If I were the ex I’d request disclosure under sarah’s law to get a formal idea of the risk.

It may not be child sexual abuse, don’t jump to conclusions. It could be several things, and the police are advising no contact in the short term until things are investigated.

The police will probably come round to see his girlfriend and ask her a few things, then she will know why he has been arrested and maybe tell you. Give her a ring today just to ask how things are.

On the other hand he could be released, it's possible he was a suspect for something that turns out to be a dead end. It happens.

Ok thank you for the info.

Yes it's that or talking to under age girls on social media etc.... nothing he does surprises me anymore.

My mum and dad have done so much for him and every time he shits on them from a great height!!
In some ways I hope he's not let out!

Just looked at sarah's law and I guess I could make the request?
As I have a preschooler and he is her uncle?

Yes do request.

Has your brother ever given any indication that he is into youngsters?

Sorry meant to add, I'm not particularly close to his Ex, haven't spoken in years.
My mum talks to her a lot as she sees the kids very regularly, well in normal circumstances she sees them every other week but with Covid hasn't seen them for a while. So I'll prob let my mum take reins on discussing things with the ex.

@Lynda07

No but there was an incident a few Christmas's ago and I asked my mum the question. They didn't see Hume for a while after that and the older one hasn't spoken to him for 18 months... until recently!

[quote cantChooseYourRelatives]@Lynda07

No but there was an incident a few Christmas's ago and I asked my mum the question. They didn't see Hume for a while after that and the older one hasn't spoken to him for 18 months... until recently! [/quote]
What sort of "incident"?

Has he had access to childers within the family?

*children

I'm not gonna go into details on here.

Thank you to those who pointed out sarah's law so at least if he is released and lies about what happened, we can check.

I'm NC with him so has little affect on my life but I want my mum and his Ex to have the full picture, if needed

I don't think 'Sarah's law' is applicable to you op, you've stated you are NC with them, therefore I imagine your children are too?

I'm sure you'll find out in due course.

Well you aren't going to go into details, but we know there was some sort of "incident" to do with a child, so presumably you know for a fact that he is a paedophile. You don't need to know what he was arrested for to confirm what you already know - and to be fairly sure what this arrest will also be for.

Continue with no contact and never leave your children alone with anyone (including your mother) who you suspect don't believe him guilty and would expose your children to him - even "supervised".

Sarah’s law will only assess the risk to your child and your situation. Ex needs to get her own one done. It’s a balance between the risk to your child and right to privacy. You also cannot disclose anything you are told to anyone else.

Usually police safeguarding is pretty thorough and if there are any relevant offences they will warn anyone with children he may be able to access.

Jesus an "incident"?

I can safely say any "incident" involving my kids would mean they never have contact again. As a minimum.

I am a retired SW and as part of my job I used to do visits to families where this type of thing happened. As a SW I was able to reveal more of the arrest reasons than the police could as I needed to ensure the parent with the children fully understood why they needed to keep their children away from the other parent. The ex may reveal some of this to your mother but she may not. I would advise you just to ensure that your children are never left alone with him if you ever meet him in the future.

It does sound dodgy. I promise you that if the police are sure and charge him, his girlfriend will be told. If you are non contact with brother, though I understand how you feel in the circumstances, you have nothing to fear. Wait and see what happens today.