Talk of pubs reopening on 22 June but not school for all years?

[mrsTC]

I am not happy seeing headlines about reopening pubs on 22 June when the priority should surely be how to get all our children back to school? Our children are missing out on education. Working parents (with the burden mainly falling on mothers in my experience) are attempting to teach and do their jobs at the same time. It is not good for parents and children's mental health and cannot continue indefinitely. I appreciate the hospitality industry and many other areas of the economy are under extreme stress, but getting children back to school has to be a priority.

No as I said they are finding it tougher. Which is why I want schools to open as a priority. But dd is not suffering due to not having a slide and swing, due to all the play. The opposite she’s very happy.

@Teateaandmoretea

However, I do think the economy and jobs need all the help they can get

Fair enough. I think children’s health and well-being should be prioritised for the long term.

We’ll have to agree to disagree

I also agree. Of course children’s health and well-being should be prioritised.

However, playgrounds being shut are not going to affect children long term.

When children grow up into adults and cannot get jobs because the economy was fucked then their well-being will tank significantly.

One is back with his friends and very happy now, it’s the older one not at school who I worry more about.

Every school I know is taking as many children from the priority year groups that they can manage with the staff they have, whilst following the DfE guidelines.

Pubs will open to allow as many people as they can safely manage to cater for.

It’s not an either/or thing-both can happen slowly and the government can monitor what impact it has.

Maybe I just have magically resilient children but neither of mine are acting like they have been thrown under a bus.

My toddler is happy, he particularly likes having his older brother at home. They play together every day as well as run round the park etc. My other child is 6 and has been learning and keeping active as well.

I’m not a SAHM and both of us are wfh full time. It’s not perfect but I can’t see there will be any long term effects on my DC.

I read it's being considered earlier because the fact that 3.5 million could be out of work if they don't open soon.
It's a billion pound industry alcohol and at the minute it's only making money from supermarkets/ off license and some take aways .
All the bank holidays and the weekends when they make a lot of money have gone .
Schools only have a few weeks before they break up but a lot will probably open in July even if it's for a couple of weeks .

Plenty of child-friendly socially distancable attractions are perfectly capable of reopening but currently banned indefinitely, such as zoos, and petting farms.

Go and educate your children at home for months, PS you can't take them to the children's farm even though garden centres have been safe enough for a month.

This is week 12. This is the equivilent of a second consecutive summer holiday with fuck all to do and fuck all company. This is not handwringing over a few weeks of a normal school holiday.

Many can't have family visits due to distance/ shielding.
Can't play with an age appropriate way if they do actually see friends.
Many homes/ gardens lack space for active play.
Parks are pretty crap when you can't go to the fun bits and they're all taped up.
Going for a walk/ scoot/ bike ride wore pretty thin a month ago.
Many parents are trying desperately to manage the balance between keeping themselves employed and not neglecting their children.
Children need social stimulation from their peers and wider family as part of normal development. Months of exclusion from society can be very damaging especially if children have some kind of additional need and need all the interactions they can.
My retail-phobic children are now at the stage of monotony that being taken to a supermarket is the highlight of their week. Yes we are at the point of intolerable monotony that I took a 7 year old to do the week's shop just for the hedonistic FUN of it. Plus it was good practical maths discussing prices.

The stance on venues like zoos despite their social distancing plans on restricted admission, outdoors only, takeaway catering etc tells us that money talks, not the wider impacts on society (what do we do with the animals when a zoo goes bankrupt?)

Gosh I need a pub.

I fully agree, but it's not only schools, we need hospitals, dentists and GP surgeries back in full operation too. Places like pubs really should be last on the list when people are being denied proper healthcare and education. But then again, the staff in schools and the NHS are being paid aren't they, whether they're working as normal or not. Whereas people who own and work in pubs don't have an income.

It feels very much like everything that's reopening is for the sole benefit of adults - golf, IKEA, garden centres and now pubs...
I have older teenagers now but the thought of 12 weeks with just me and them for company doesn't bear thinking about when they were primary school aged. They need education, routine and fun with people outside their immediate family.
Have any of the countries with schools returning seen this much anticipated "second spike"?

How about pub gardens with play areas?

Seriously though it is quite boring for children to go to the same park every day, with no play equipment and no one to play with. As a parent who is trying to juggle childcare, home learning and paid work, it is very hard to find the energy to invent new activities every single day to try to motivate a bored and miserable child.

@MarshaBradyo

Well great kids with siblings will be fine then. Just the only children that are screwed.

Will pubs be able to open their playparks?

Not yep no doubt harder with an only dc of any age.

Do playgrounds fix that most it is it more other stuff like reducing SD measures, playgroups opening or nurseries if you use them. For toddlers anyway.

No, pubs will not be able to open their play areas.

Don't really see how they are connected. It's not like pubs are opening instead of schools.

Pubs want to open and if they can do that safely then that's all good in my book. Allows people to start making a livelihood and give people some much needed R&R!