Madeleine McCann - new suspect

[KatherineJaneway]

A 43-year-old German prisoner who travelled around Portugal in a camper van is now the focus of Scotland Yard's investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52914016]

Presumably the other thousands of missing UK children are either with one of their parents, or have run away? I can't think of any suspected stranger abductions of a pre schooler? It would be a huge news story if it happened to any child.

And exactly what MrsNoah said.

But there are threads on MN which shows some people suspecting the McCanns!
Until we know for sure, many will be suspicious of them, possibly forever.

It's a bit unfair that the McCanns get a bad press, the whole group left their small children alone night after night, but don't seem to get half the abuse.

So according to some people it would have been acceptable if the McCanns had used the listening service which was less frequent and thorough than what the parents were doing 🙄

Evening, everyone. We've had a lot of reports on this thread and we're finding it hard to keep up. We're going to close the thread to new posts temporarily to give us a chance to catch up.

I have just read in the French press that he lived close to Praia da Luz and worked jobs as a waiter but was also a small time criminal - breaking into holiday villas.
He is in jail on child sex abuse crimes.

And people here who say they would never have left their child - well back at the time plenty of people did. When my elder two were little we left them with "baby listening" whilst dining at hotels - basically a phone left off the hook and they would report if they heard crying. I went to a residential and left my son in his room , using the baby monitor to listen out for him.
Similarily I just watched an old episode of Morse and they blithly talked about leaving a 6 monh old baby because they'd be "weaned by then".

The past is a different place. I don't know ifI'd have left my DC at that complex, having never stayed their.

BUT I do know I happily let my DC wander freely in a Belgium town, not keeping a tight grip on their hands. What I didn't know at the time was that two little girls had been abducted in that town very recently.

Is the thread unlocked

Great, perhaps we could just use it to discuss the developments in the new suspect? Lots of people dont think her parents were involved and people piling on with their finger pointing just means none of us can talk about it.

Also: we don't need to be told you would never leave your kids; maybe we could just accept that's old news now.

Why do people still feel the need to come onto these threads and pontificate about how they would never have done what the McCanns did? You can't seriously think it's an original contribution to the debate, surely.

The Sun link posted up thread is from May 2019.

The new suspect hasn't been publicised before as far as I can tell. The previous German suspect was MN and I think ruled out

All these people raking up the same old stuff … thinking the parents were involved.

Answer one question that I have repeated over the years ….. if they were involved in any way why on earth would they go to these lengths to keep this in the public eye? It is because of her parents that the search continues …. it doesn't make sense to think they are involved.

Another thing - who the hell knows how any of us would react to such horrific trauma played out on the world media stage?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8387211/amp/Inside-farmhouse-new-Madeleine-McCann-prime-suspect-lived.html

The DM say that German police believe other people know where her body is stored and want them to come forward.

I know the papers are desperate to spin this in to news and will be printing as much as possible but this does sound very different to the usual vague leads and 'keen to interview' stuff

I just read a translation of a German article. The man is in jail for child sex offences and worked in the area of Portugal Madeleine disappeared from. At the time he also would break into holiday lets to steal.

I don’t think this is necessarily a new suspect as such, I believe for some time there has been talk of a gang who would break into tourist accommodation to steal and also a non-local man hanging around the markets and behaving unusually. I think possibly they have been able to link a certain person to the above as new evidence has come to light. A part of the jigsaw so to speak.

I’ve always assumed Occam’s razor on this case. Is it likely that in a very short amount of time, with no vehicle, the parents would be able to move the body of their daughter to a hiding place so perfect she’s never been found? In a place they don’t know beyond the resort? And then all their friends have colluded in a terrible crime for 13 yrs?

Or

A paedophile with local knowledge took her? Someone who was maybe watching the family and we’re aware of their very predictable movements that they did every evening? If someone knew she was in the room alone and had a vehicle near by they could have had her several miles away before they even raised the alarm.

These types of leads always come up from time to time in missing person cases.

I remember with Ben Needham it was the same, there would be a “promising new development” which would then amount to nothing for another few years and so on.

The timing of this one is very convenient though, it detracts nicely away from George Floyd and the government’s handing of COVID.....

I'm not sure the American police can use MM to distract from Ffloyd.

They do come up but Ben Needham did move forward because they found what seemed to be a shoe buckle in the location of where the driver worked at the time.

@JudyCoolibar

Why do people still feel the need to come onto these threads and pontificate about how they would never have done what the McCanns did? You can't seriously think it's an original contribution to the debate, surely.

I know, it's totally baffling, do you think that they are contributing something new or they have some amazing insight. There is literally nothing that hasn't already been said and anyone who has an interest in what happened for sure has heard it thousands of times before.

They've just said on This Morning that the German Police are expected to give a statement at midday. I'm not sure if that's their time or ours.

@AlternativePerspective

These types of leads always come up from time to time in missing person cases.

I remember with Ben Needham it was the same, there would be a “promising new development” which would then amount to nothing for another few years and so on.

The timing of this one is very convenient though, it detracts nicely away from George Floyd and the government’s handing of COVID.....

As I understand it this has come from the German police, why would they care about the George Floyd coverage or the UK COVID handling?

I'm not sure the American police can use MM to distract from Ffloyd. no but the British can, and the demonstrations in Hyde park yesterday with thousands and thousands of people, none of whom were social distancing.

I wonder if that poster is doing the standard issue Dunning Kruger schtick too? There's a positive epidemic of people who know the square root of bugger all about trauma responses wading in when it comes to the McCanns. It's mystifying.

I mean, this isn't an area I'm remotely qualified to make a call on, because I have no professional expertise or lived experience of anything like this situation. So I don't. It's really easy. Yet it eludes so many.

Blackberry, it's their gut, innit.

Well my gut tells me the parents are innocent. Just as valid.

Tbh though I’m always a bit about posters who say they hope she’s “safe and well”. Just on what planet do people think that is even remotely possible?

I mean how on earth could a child abducted from her bed in the middle of the night possibly be safe and well?

The illegal adoption trade is a bit of a fantasy. If it even happened no-one who was prepared to buy someone else’s child is remotely a decent human being, and that would very likely end up showing in the way they treated that child.

But that aside, illegal adoptions on that level, where we’re talking about toddlers just don’t happen.

Hopefully this will shut up the disgusting trolls who have pointed the finger at the parents. I had so many arguments with people at the time who were trying to pretend they could have murdered her. I feel so sorry for the people of Portugal as well because especially in Praia da Luz that really did decimate tourism there and it's such a lovely friendly country.

Totally agree

The timing of this one is very convenient though, it detracts nicely away from George Floyd and the government’s handing of COVID.....

Blimey Alternative, you can't care about more than one thing at a time? That must be mortifying.